GOOD FAT?

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  • cheryl3660
    cheryl3660 Posts: 182 Member
    Also, pork rinds, but not everybody likes them. I like having them as a snack. 0 carbs, tons of fat! :-)

    I LOVE pork rinds. I dip them in mustard :)

    Never heard of this . Must be an American thing ;)

    they're deep fried pork skin. i never had a taste for the store bought ones, but when I make it homemade, they're absolutely amazing.

    the_publican_pork_rinds.jpg

    Sometimes we buy them fresh made from the Mexican store - they call them Chicharones. Yum, especially when you pair it with a nice artichoke-jalapeno dip. Sometimes they are called pork cracklings.
  • cheryl3660
    cheryl3660 Posts: 182 Member
    I'm scared to eat that way because I have high cholesterol, but the traditional low fat diet is just not getting the results I want!!!! I think I am going to try and see a dietician.
    A high-fat diet has been proven to lower cholesterol - you have to make sure it's the right kind of fat and cut out carbs/processed foods/refined sugars.

    Also, don't forget our bodies actually MAKE cholesterol (both 'good' and 'bad'). They wouldn't do that if there wasn't a need for it.

    A lot of these 'everybody knows ... is bad for you' myths have come from bad science or one study that has never been correlated, but somehow they've got into the media and have become ingrained in how we live our lives.

    Since following a ketogenic diet, I have improved all my lab work results, including lowering my triglycerides, lowering my LDL and raising my HDL.

    A dietician is going to tell you the same old mantra everyone else does - eat a low fat, high whole grain diet. I recommend you do your own research and read the information for yourself and try it out and see what is right for your body. Good luck and don't be afraid -- take your health into your own hands because no one cares about your health more than you, not even your doctor!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    Ah thanks guys I was just worried I had been eating the wrong stuff... So everything I've been eating is ok? My bacon is all fresh. Are fresh sausages ok does anyone know? Sorry I'm sort of new to all the low carb high fat been doing it a few wakes

    Processed meats such as bacon and sausage have a high association with disease. There is much debate about saturated fats, but the medical recommendation is to eat more unsaturated than saturated.

    Below are some articles on fat and meat consumption, if you are interested.

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats-and-cholesterol/
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-meat/MY01329
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/eating-meat/MY02417
    http://preventcancer.aicr.org/site/PageServer?pagename=elements_red_processed_meat
    http://www.wcrf-uk.org/cancer_prevention/recommendations/meat_and_cancer.php
    http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/Truth-about-fats.shtml
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262
    I thought they might actually be studies that showed causality, considering your stance on animal fat. These are the conventional stances that haven't changed since adopting the low fat dietary guidelines from 1980. To this day, after thousands of actual studies, not blogs or opinion like these links above' nobody has ever shown causation, that alone should make one pause.

    All studies don't differentiate saturated fat and trans fats from one another, basically all the studies on saturated fat as far back as you can go have been on people that consume the SAD diet, which has always had a sh1tload of trans fats as well as an overabundance of sugar and refined carbs which when they replace saturated fat health markers show an increase in CVD.......basically when I see a diet that has no trans fats, sugar and refined carbs in conjunction with saturated fat and shows deleterious effects on health markers I'll then change my stance, until then they can keep trying, but they still haven't hit a bulls eye with saturated fat. In order to actually see causation we would need to see something other than epidemiology studies where food questionnaires and recall from months to years is required and always use the 1st percentile to boost their outcomes to real clinical trials where actual live human beings are the subject, double blind would be nice.

    The real kicker is most of those links promote vegetable oils that actually have trans fats in them from the deleterious effects that the refining process brings to these oils...soy, corn and canola........would never touch these oils with a ten food pole.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16403234?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f1000m,isrctn
    Comparison of isocaloric very low carbohydrate/high saturated fat and high carbohydrate/low saturated fat diets on body composition and cardiovascular risk.
    CONCLUSION:

    Isocaloric VLCARB results in similar fat loss than diets low in saturated fat, but are more effective in improving triacylglycerols, HDL-C, fasting and post prandial glucose and insulin concentrations. VLCARB may be useful in the short-term management of subjects with insulin resistance and hypertriacylglycerolemia.
  • maddymartinec
    maddymartinec Posts: 48
    Fatty proteins: Avacado, almonds, cashews, salmon, all natural peanut butter, trout, coconut.

    Oils (use in moderation): coconut oil, olive oil, grapeseed oil, sunflower oil.

    In addition, to get some more healthy fat into your diet, take fish oil or flaxseed oil.
  • ngyoung
    ngyoung Posts: 311 Member
    I recently came across this link with a pretty good write up about most fat misconceptions and why saturated fat is actually the heart healthy type and PUFAs like canola are the least heart healthy.

    http://paleomagazine.com/paleo-fats

    "SATURATED FAT

    Oh…saturated fat – so wrongly accused and vilified for so long.

    Saturated fats are a group of fats that can be broken down into subgroups (long-chain saturated fats, medium-chain triglycerides) as well as individual fats (palmitic acid, stearic acid, lauric acid, etc.). Here’s what you really need to know about saturated fats:

    1. As Paul Jauminet has noted in his book The Perfect Health Diet, bodyfat is actually stored and released primarily as saturated fat. This means that your body prefers to burn saturated fats.

    2. There is no known toxicity level for saturated fat. This means that when you burn saturated fat, no toxic by-products are released (unlike certain other fats and carbohydrates).

    3. Saturated fats play structural roles in the human body, such as forming part of cell membranes.

    4. Saturated fat is extremely stable. Because of its chemical properties, saturated fat does not oxidize very easily. This is extremely important because oxidation of fats is what makes them rancid and also one of many factors that contributes to cardio-vascular disease.

    Long story short, most of the fats you eat should be saturated fats. Primarily because they’re the most stable and non-toxic of fats, they are also generally the safest and easiest to cook with. They play super-important roles in the human body and are the form of fat that our body relies on from its own stores of fat.

    Saturated fats are found lots of places, but 2 of the primary places that you’ll find saturated fat in a Paleo diet is in animal fats and coconut oil.

    If you’re still worried about saturated fats based on decades of propaganda, then I urge you to check out Chris Kresser’s series on Heart Disease."
  • Danvman1980
    Danvman1980 Posts: 27
    Ah thanks guys I was just worried I had been eating the wrong stuff... So everything I've been eating is ok? My bacon is all fresh. Are fresh sausages ok does anyone know? Sorry I'm sort of new to all the low carb high fat been doing it a few wakes

    Processed meats such as bacon and sausage have a high association with disease. There is much debate about saturated fats, but the medical recommendation is to eat more unsaturated than saturated.

    Below are some articles on fat and meat consumption, if you are interested.

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats-and-cholesterol/
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-meat/MY01329
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/eating-meat/MY02417
    http://preventcancer.aicr.org/site/PageServer?pagename=elements_red_processed_meat
    http://www.wcrf-uk.org/cancer_prevention/recommendations/meat_and_cancer.php
    http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/Truth-about-fats.shtml
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262

    Well i think when it comes to this subject its down to the individual person to decide. Because i can give you many sites with studies on fat saying the opposite.
  • Danvman1980
    Danvman1980 Posts: 27
    Also, pork rinds, but not everybody likes them. I like having them as a snack. 0 carbs, tons of fat! :-)

    I LOVE pork rinds. I dip them in mustard :)

    Never heard of this . Must be an American thing ;)

    they're deep fried pork skin. i never had a taste for the store bought ones, but when I make it homemade, they're absolutely amazing.

    the_publican_pork_rinds.jpg

    Sometimes we buy them fresh made from the Mexican store - they call them Chicharones. Yum, especially when you pair it with a nice artichoke-jalapeno dip. Sometimes they are called pork cracklings.

    yummy yummy

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