Can not lose weight
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So misinformed it's inbeleviable. What about the antibiotics in meat, what about the hormones pumped into animals, what about unhealthy preservatives, what about GMOs? Maybe you should read up on this and get better informed.0
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AntoinetteAngus wrote: »So misinformed it's inbeleviable...
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AntoinetteAngus wrote: »So misinformed it's inbeleviable. What about the antibiotics in meat, what about the hormones pumped into animals, what about unhealthy preservatives, what about GMOs? Maybe you should read up on this and get better informed.
Sources?5 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »So misinformed it's inbeleviable. What about the antibiotics in meat, what about the hormones pumped into animals, what about unhealthy preservatives, what about GMOs? Maybe you should read up on this and get better informed.
The irony is amazing.9 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »AntoinetteAngus wrote: »So the idea that you can eat toxic crap makes you feel better? (cookies, ice cream etc). More power to you. That's absolutely your choice. For those who want to live a healthy lifestyle and lose weight I suggest you challenge what people have claimed works (clearly many people arent seing any results by the posts we see daily) Try to cleanse and reset your body and you will see results. Do you realize there is pounds of undigested waste that sits in your system? We eat so much meat at a rate our body can't keep up. We ingest so much toxins and that never gets eliminated and that prevent our body from functioning properly. This is why water and waste elimination is important and this is the first thing you will notice will change when you're on the right track.
No, no, and no. I've lost 118 lbs without being miserable by balancing what you would consider 'healthy' with what you erroneously consider 'toxic'. I'm happy and healthy and will continue to be so despite your disapproval of my diet. And if I was really eating toxic crap, I'd be dead. Guess what, I'm not. You may want to read some scientific articles and put down the O magazine.
118 lbs is my ultimate goal - thanks for the inspiration - 30 to go! I hope the OP is seeing the truth in your post and not getting sidetracked.
Thanks, I also still have about 30 to go, but I already feel a 1000 times better.0 -
we can reset our body? like a computer? news to me8
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Eat more.
Especially protein.0 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »So misinformed it's inbeleviable. What about the antibiotics in meat, what about the hormones pumped into animals, what about unhealthy preservatives, what about GMOs? Maybe you should read up on this and get better informed.
Organic uses just as much pesticide as any GMO crop...
Eat local livestock if you can or get it from reputable sources.
It's understandable that you'd think this way but once you've worked in this business for a while, you'll learn to weed through the BS.
Nothing inherently wrong with GMOs.
I'd rather eat a chicken with some antibiotics in it than one with a disease or parasites.3 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »So the idea that you can eat toxic crap makes you feel better? (cookies, ice cream etc). More power to you. That's absolutely your choice. For those who want to live a healthy lifestyle and lose weight I suggest you challenge what people have claimed works (clearly many people arent seing any results by the posts we see daily) Try to cleanse and reset your body and you will see results. Do you realize there is pounds of undigested waste that sits in your system? We eat so much meat at a rate our body can't keep up. We ingest so much toxins and that never gets eliminated and that prevent our body from functioning properly. This is why water and waste elimination is important and this is the first thing you will notice will change when you're on the right track.
OH, please.
1.Toxic crap? List the toxic crap, please. Oh, and scientific evidence to back up those claims.
2. I have been losing weight. I also used to eat healthy clean vegetarian...I didn't count calories and was over 260lbs. Like I mentioned in my previous post, I eat mostly nutritious foods with a few treats here and there...It's hilarious that my Dietitian buddy approves of my WOE, but you don't. Are you in the Diet/nutrition field?
3. The body is not a computer...it does not need to be reset...absolute woo garbage. Cleanses are woo garbage, too. There is absolutely no scientific evidence to back cleanses and detoxes...
4. No, there are NOT pounds of undigested waste in our bodies. You've obviously fallen victim to those detox cleanse scams on the market... The Master Cleanse is one particular product that comes to mind that spurts this woo. There are disgusting pictures online of 'toxic waste' people eliminate. Guess what? There is CLAY in those pills which come out as that so called toxic waste. They've been debunked.
5. Our bodies can't keep up? Huh? Where are you getting your information from? You definitely sound as though you've read some detox cleanse leaflets.. Our bodies do a fine job of detoxing. If they aren't you need to go to hospital ASAP.
6. Which toxins do we need to eliminate? To date, n one can even answer that question... Because they can't.AntoinetteAngus wrote: »So misinformed it's inbeleviable. What about the antibiotics in meat, what about the hormones pumped into animals, what about unhealthy preservatives, what about GMOs? Maybe you should read up on this and get better informed.
And yet...you cannot answer any questions... or provide any scientific evidence.
I believe in science and the proven.... I guess you don't?
And this:Helloitsdan wrote: »AntoinetteAngus wrote: »So misinformed it's inbeleviable. What about the antibiotics in meat, what about the hormones pumped into animals, what about unhealthy preservatives, what about GMOs? Maybe you should read up on this and get better informed.
Organic uses just as much pesticide as any GMO crop...
Eat local livestock if you can or get it from reputable sources.
It's understandable that you'd think this way but once you've worked in this business for a while, you'll learn to weed through the BS.
Nothing inherently wrong with GMOs.
I'd rather eat a chicken with some antibiotics in it than one with a disease or parasites.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »we can reset our body? like a computer? news to me
Yep....ctrl+alt+del x36 -
I realize that my aim in my posts is to never make anyone feel wrong about what they believe. My aim is to shed light on a topic in a manner that leaves people feeling informed. If I can help one person understand I'm happy. I understand that people may be opposed to seeing things differently but it is important to see toxins and their effects on the body so that you can be the healthiest person you can be. Here are a few links that I quickly Googled and skimmed based on requests for information.
Proof of toxins in food
http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/3101043
How the body elimintes toxins
https://www.google.ca/amp/issels.com/publication-library/information-on-detoxification/amp/
Toxins make you fat
The body has four main exit routes for toxins: pee, poop, perspiration and pranayama (Sanskrit for breath).
http://drhyman.com/blog/2012/02/20/how-toxins-make-you-fat-4-steps-to-get-rid-of-toxic-weight/
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Hyman. LOL. One of the biggest crackpots in the industry, right up there with Dr. Oz. The Huffington Post is a real reliable, sciency-type source also. An article written by Jillian Michaels, no less.
Try these instead - some actual science:
https://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-detox-delusion/
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-detox-scam-how-to-spot-it-and-how-to-avoid-it/12 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »Proof of toxins in food
http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/3101043
A Huffington Post article is not proof of anything. Also, they have redefined "toxic" to mean "not good for you" (rather than the actual definition of the word which requires the toxin to actually be poisonous). Also, any article referring to any food as "evil" is written by someone with an agenda.10 -
Nothing wrong with GMO''s. Now I know there would be no argument in the world that would change your way of thinking sadly.2
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AntoinetteAngus wrote: »Nothing wrong with GMO''s. Now I know there would be no argument in the world that would change your way of thinking sadly.
That's okay because we aren't the one who's misinformed.10 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »Nothing wrong with GMO''s. Now I know there would be no argument in the world that would change your way of thinking sadly.
You have a problem with Golden Rice?0 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I realize that my aim in my posts is to never make anyone feel wrong about what they believe. My aim is to shed light on a topic in a manner that leaves people feeling informed. If I can help one person understand I'm happy. I understand that people may be opposed to seeing things differently but it is important to see toxins and their effects on the body so that you can be the healthiest person you can be. Here are a few links that I quickly Googled and skimmed based on requests for information.
Proof of toxins in food
http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/3101043
How the body elimintes toxins
https://www.google.ca/amp/issels.com/publication-library/information-on-detoxification/amp/
Toxins make you fat
The body has four main exit routes for toxins: pee, poop, perspiration and pranayama (Sanskrit for breath).
http://drhyman.com/blog/2012/02/20/how-toxins-make-you-fat-4-steps-to-get-rid-of-toxic-weight/
Did you know that Dr Oz was in court over his bogus diet claims?
Also, RE: toxins make you fat. You claim I eat toxins, yet I've lost almost 100lbs.
I'm a special snowflake?
Name just 1 toxin that we need to eliminate.
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There is clearly no convincing my fitnesspal users of anything other than CICO. I really hope you guys see the light one day...I truly, truly do because I really want everyone to be healthy and free of sickness and disease but if GMO''s, hormones and pesticides make you happy feel free to pump you body with these toxin.0
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AntoinetteAngus wrote: »There is clearly no convincing my fitnesspal users of anything other than CICO. I really hope you guys see the light one day...I truly, truly do because I really want everyone to be healthy and free of sickness and disease but if GMO''s, hormones and pesticides make you happy feel free to pump you body with these toxin.
And hopefully one day you'll put the woo and fearmongering aside and find some reliable sources for your information about health and nutrition. Because you're way off base and your concern for MFP users is largely unwarranted. I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry when somebody links to an article in the Huffington Post, written by Jillian Michaels, as a reference source for anything.11 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »There is clearly no convincing my fitnesspal users of anything other than CICO. I really hope you guys see the light one day...I truly, truly do because I really want everyone to be healthy and free of sickness and disease but if GMO''s, hormones and pesticides make you happy feel free to pump you body with these toxin.
The mere fact that you're harping on GMOs (rather than the genuinely bad for you - but still not toxic - trans fats) shows that you don't really understand nutrition at all. There is *no* grounds for concern about the nutritional value of GMOs. There is some grounds for concern about the environmental impact of GMOs, but that's not the topic under discussion.
And, like the article, you are misusing the words toxic and toxin to refer to anything you don't like.9 -
The convincing comes with the science to back it up.3
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AntoinetteAngus wrote: »There is clearly no convincing my fitnesspal users of anything other than CICO. I really hope you guys see the light one day...I truly, truly do because I really want everyone to be healthy and free of sickness and disease but if GMO''s, hormones and pesticides make you happy feel free to pump you body with these toxin.
We base our knowledge on science... And, most of us were once where you were. It was my Dietitian who helped me see the light of nutrition and science. There are a vast number of knowledgeable mfp-ers who have a science background, and I trust their knowledge as there is proof to back that knowledge up.
And, I am healthy, but thanks... I choose to enjoy the rest of my life with a few small pleasures (and some huge ones! )3 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »There is clearly no convincing my fitnesspal users of anything other than CICO. I really hope you guys see the light one day...I truly, truly do because I really want everyone to be healthy and free of sickness and disease but if GMO''s, hormones and pesticides make you happy feel free to pump you body with these toxin.
Oh, we can be convinced. We're convinced with genuine scientific research, not the latest BS from some crack pot doctor or generic media article. You don't seem to understand the importance of legitimate, verifiable, scientifically sound sources.6 -
AntoinetteAngus wrote: »I realize that my aim in my posts is to never make anyone feel wrong about what they believe. My aim is to shed light on a topic in a manner that leaves people feeling informed. If I can help one person understand I'm happy. I understand that people may be opposed to seeing things differently but it is important to see toxins and their effects on the body so that you can be the healthiest person you can be. Here are a few links that I quickly Googled and skimmed based on requests for information.
Proof of toxins in food
http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/3101043
How the body elimintes toxins
https://www.google.ca/amp/issels.com/publication-library/information-on-detoxification/amp/
Toxins make you fat
The body has four main exit routes for toxins: pee, poop, perspiration and pranayama (Sanskrit for breath).
http://drhyman.com/blog/2012/02/20/how-toxins-make-you-fat-4-steps-to-get-rid-of-toxic-weight/
LOL...this is seriously the "proof" that you came up with??3 -
Even though the argument Antoinette is trying to make is pretty much all BS, the main point he/she was trying to make is correct. CI/CO will make you lose weight, but it won't ensure you are healthy. If the OP is eating the right calories but nothing but junk food, you will still lose weight, but are going to struggle in other areas of your health. It is important to eat proper nutrition along the way, still want to get your veggies and proteins in the mix.
Arguing about GMOs is pretty pointless, no one has any claims they are as bad as people say, but I also don't believe they are harmless like many sources claim either. Just like cell phone waves, I think we're all guinea pigs right now and who the heck knows how it will end up. But to argue that sickness and disease only exists because of this is pretty funny, considering how many major historical famishes, outbreaks and illnesses are on record from people back before all this new form of gmos, hormones and pesticides existed. I would rather take the risk of these causing futures in the problem to prevent the things causing known problems in the past.
Your body doesn't need cleansing of toxins. It doesn't need more apple cider vinegar to ensure proper ph balance. You need to eat the right amount of energy to fuel your body without storing extra, and make sure you get a good amount of things like iron, vitamins, proteins and fats. That's it.2 -
@ericwhitt no one is advocating a diet only of junk food though. The majority of the CICO crowd are firmly in the moderation camp.5
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@singingflutelady I didn't really say anyone was, just adding my 2 cents to the debate. Since so many people just say CICO and nothing else, it really needs to be expanded to a balanced diet CICO.1
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@singingflutelady I didn't really say anyone was, just adding my 2 cents to the debate. Since so many people just say CICO and nothing else, it really needs to be expanded to a balanced diet CICO.
No one says eat "eat junk" though.2 -
Yup. It's just a sore spot that all the anti CICOers use all the time to discredit CICO as they claim that we advocate the all junk food diet8
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singingflutelady wrote: »Yup. It's just a sore spot that all the anti CICOers use all the time to discredit CICO as they claim that we advocate the all junk food diet
time for a flogging a dead horse gif, surely....5
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