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  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    edited November 2016
    Grey_1 wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Grey_1 wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    BTW OP, why are you looking to take two protein shakes a day?

    Just a guess, looking for a meal replacement? I do two a day, but I make sure I'm hitting my calorie goals as well.

    That's my suspicion but they aren't really meal replacement products so you would might end up lacking in certain nutrients.

    For sure. I do my (sometimes poor) best to make sure I'm hitting all my nutrient needs between vitamins and food, primarily food. Hopefully the OP is taking that into account.

    Exactly, mixing in fruits and vegetables would be a great way to help ensure she is hitting her requirements if she really wants to go the shake route, but I wouldn't suggest it as a primary source of meals.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    trigden1991 wrote: »
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    EttaMaeMartin wrote: »
    trigden1991 wrote: »
    Protein is not safe as it is created by the devil. Avoid at all costs.

    this is your opinion....not a fact. protein is a part of life... not the devil. theses opinions do nothing to help the person asking the question.

    He's joking;) look at his photo. He obviously eats protein ;)

    My diet is 90% fat and 10% pure sugar. None of that protein rubbish ;)

    Wait! No it's supposed to be 90% sugar 10% fat and 100% protein. Haven't your read the latest guru rambling?
  • Grey_1
    Grey_1 Posts: 1,139 Member
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »

    Exactly, mixing in fruits and vegetables would be a great way to help ensure she is hitting her requirements if she really wants to go the shake route, but I wouldn't suggest it as a primary source of meals.
    My oldest is under the impression, regardless of evidence, that "Less is more".... I couldn't help but think of her when reading the thread. She's slim, but very weak.

    My wife and I usually go with about a 70/30 split, 70% veggies, 30% poultry/red meat/fish. We're always satisfied without ever feeling uncomfortably full.

    That, and we just don't want all our nutrients from pills/shakes. No reason other than we enjoy getting it more the natural way, and it's working.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    shellyld2016 wrote: »
    Sure, just make sure not to exceed the safe level of protein for your weight. It's hard on your kidneys.

    Lol not true

    Actually, there is a level of protein that will cause problems, just like anything else. It's just REALLY high and most people will never even get close to that, except maybe 250lb bodybuilders consuming 3g/lb, then you could be running into issues. Even the nutritional researchers that are the biggest advocates for high protein diets describe unsafe levels. Usually the number I've heard where they start talking about potentially dangerous levels is around 250-300g or so.

    Only in the elderly or those with renal issues.
    See Jose Antonios ISSN study on 3g/kg intake with no negative impact except some constipation.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    edited November 2016
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    shellyld2016 wrote: »
    Sure, just make sure not to exceed the safe level of protein for your weight. It's hard on your kidneys.

    Lol not true

    Actually, there is a level of protein that will cause problems, just like anything else. It's just REALLY high and most people will never even get close to that, except maybe 250lb bodybuilders consuming 3g/lb, then you could be running into issues. Even the nutritional researchers that are the biggest advocates for high protein diets describe unsafe levels. Usually the number I've heard where they start talking about potentially dangerous levels is around 250-300g or so.

    Only in the elderly or those with renal issues.
    See Jose Antonios ISSN study on 3g/kg intake with no negative impact except some constipation.

    Short-term yes, long-term, who knows there are a lot of things that kill bodybuilders young but some known issues with having too much protein have been osteoporosis, depression, and gout among others. Actually, some of the newer protocols for renal disease actually recommend higher protein with the idea that the protein provides more protection than damage. I'm not sure how wide spread that protocol is but it was an interesting idea. In the end, there just isn't any reason to take in that much protein anyway but most people will never take in enough to be harmful but some could.

    Just for the record, I'm not proteinphobic or anything like that, I've had times where I've taken in over 2g/lb. There just wasn't any reason to do this other than to pad the bank accounts of supplement companies because it's almost impossible to take in very high amounts without supplements.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    trigden1991 wrote: »
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    EttaMaeMartin wrote: »
    trigden1991 wrote: »
    Protein is not safe as it is created by the devil. Avoid at all costs.

    this is your opinion....not a fact. protein is a part of life... not the devil. theses opinions do nothing to help the person asking the question.

    He's joking;) look at his photo. He obviously eats protein ;)

    My diet is 90% fat and 10% pure sugar. None of that protein rubbish ;)

    Wait! No it's supposed to be 90% sugar 10% fat and 100% protein. Haven't your read the latest guru rambling?

    That's why I have lost all my gains then.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    shellyld2016 wrote: »
    Sure, just make sure not to exceed the safe level of protein for your weight. It's hard on your kidneys.

    Lol not true

    Actually, there is a level of protein that will cause problems, just like anything else. It's just REALLY high and most people will never even get close to that, except maybe 250lb bodybuilders consuming 3g/lb, then you could be running into issues. Even the nutritional researchers that are the biggest advocates for high protein diets describe unsafe levels. Usually the number I've heard where they start talking about potentially dangerous levels is around 250-300g or so.

    Only in the elderly or those with renal issues.
    See Jose Antonios ISSN study on 3g/kg intake with no negative impact except some constipation.

    Short-term yes, long-term, who knows there are a lot of things that kill bodybuilders young but some known issues with having too much protein have been osteoporosis, depression, and gout among others. Actually, some of the newer protocols for renal disease actually recommend higher protein with the idea that the protein provides more protection than damage. I'm not sure how wide spread that protocol is but it was an interesting idea. In the end, there just isn't any reason to take in that much protein anyway but most people will never take in enough to be harmful but some could.

    Just for the record, I'm not proteinphobic or anything like that, I've had times where I've taken in over 2g/lb. There just wasn't any reason to do this other than to pad the bank accounts of supplement companies because it's almost impossible to take in very high amounts without supplements.

    Pfft, do you even tuna bro? I could easily eat 5-6 pounds of stuff in a day if I consumed nothing else. :D
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    shellyld2016 wrote: »
    Sure, just make sure not to exceed the safe level of protein for your weight. It's hard on your kidneys.

    Lol not true

    Actually, there is a level of protein that will cause problems, just like anything else. It's just REALLY high and most people will never even get close to that, except maybe 250lb bodybuilders consuming 3g/lb, then you could be running into issues. Even the nutritional researchers that are the biggest advocates for high protein diets describe unsafe levels. Usually the number I've heard where they start talking about potentially dangerous levels is around 250-300g or so.

    Only in the elderly or those with renal issues.
    See Jose Antonios ISSN study on 3g/kg intake with no negative impact except some constipation.

    Short-term yes, long-term, who knows there are a lot of things that kill bodybuilders young but some known issues with having too much protein have been osteoporosis, depression, and gout among others. Actually, some of the newer protocols for renal disease actually recommend higher protein with the idea that the protein provides more protection than damage. I'm not sure how wide spread that protocol is but it was an interesting idea. In the end, there just isn't any reason to take in that much protein anyway but most people will never take in enough to be harmful but some could.

    Just for the record, I'm not proteinphobic or anything like that, I've had times where I've taken in over 2g/lb. There just wasn't any reason to do this other than to pad the bank accounts of supplement companies because it's almost impossible to take in very high amounts without supplements.

    Pfft, do you even tuna bro? I could easily eat 5-6 pounds of stuff in a day if I consumed nothing else. :D

    Oh, tuna is a great food but that's a lot! :open_mouth: That would be around 500g a day but I'm guessing you'll be swimming for shore soon! ;)
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    shellyld2016 wrote: »
    Sure, just make sure not to exceed the safe level of protein for your weight. It's hard on your kidneys.

    Lol not true

    Actually, there is a level of protein that will cause problems, just like anything else. It's just REALLY high and most people will never even get close to that, except maybe 250lb bodybuilders consuming 3g/lb, then you could be running into issues. Even the nutritional researchers that are the biggest advocates for high protein diets describe unsafe levels. Usually the number I've heard where they start talking about potentially dangerous levels is around 250-300g or so.

    Only in the elderly or those with renal issues.
    See Jose Antonios ISSN study on 3g/kg intake with no negative impact except some constipation.

    Short-term yes, long-term, who knows there are a lot of things that kill bodybuilders young but some known issues with having too much protein have been osteoporosis, depression, and gout among others. Actually, some of the newer protocols for renal disease actually recommend higher protein with the idea that the protein provides more protection than damage. I'm not sure how wide spread that protocol is but it was an interesting idea. In the end, there just isn't any reason to take in that much protein anyway but most people will never take in enough to be harmful but some could.

    Just for the record, I'm not proteinphobic or anything like that, I've had times where I've taken in over 2g/lb. There just wasn't any reason to do this other than to pad the bank accounts of supplement companies because it's almost impossible to take in very high amounts without supplements.

    Pfft, do you even tuna bro? I could easily eat 5-6 pounds of stuff in a day if I consumed nothing else. :D

    Oh, tuna is a great food but that's a lot! :open_mouth: That would be around 500g a day but I'm guessing you'll be swimming for shore soon! ;)

    Either that or sinking like a brick due to the horrible amounts of compacted "materials" in my large intestine.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
    Helloitsdan wrote: »
    shellyld2016 wrote: »
    Sure, just make sure not to exceed the safe level of protein for your weight. It's hard on your kidneys.

    Lol not true

    Actually, there is a level of protein that will cause problems, just like anything else. It's just REALLY high and most people will never even get close to that, except maybe 250lb bodybuilders consuming 3g/lb, then you could be running into issues. Even the nutritional researchers that are the biggest advocates for high protein diets describe unsafe levels. Usually the number I've heard where they start talking about potentially dangerous levels is around 250-300g or so.

    Only in the elderly or those with renal issues.
    See Jose Antonios ISSN study on 3g/kg intake with no negative impact except some constipation.

    Short-term yes, long-term, who knows there are a lot of things that kill bodybuilders young but some known issues with having too much protein have been osteoporosis, depression, and gout among others. Actually, some of the newer protocols for renal disease actually recommend higher protein with the idea that the protein provides more protection than damage. I'm not sure how wide spread that protocol is but it was an interesting idea. In the end, there just isn't any reason to take in that much protein anyway but most people will never take in enough to be harmful but some could.

    Just for the record, I'm not proteinphobic or anything like that, I've had times where I've taken in over 2g/lb. There just wasn't any reason to do this other than to pad the bank accounts of supplement companies because it's almost impossible to take in very high amounts without supplements.

    Pfft, do you even tuna bro? I could easily eat 5-6 pounds of stuff in a day if I consumed nothing else. :D

    Oh, tuna is a great food but that's a lot! :open_mouth: That would be around 500g a day but I'm guessing you'll be swimming for shore soon! ;)

    Either that or sinking like a brick due to the horrible amounts of compacted "materials" in my large intestine.

    That too!
  • RogerToo
    RogerToo Posts: 16,157 Member
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    If you are getting enough calories it is "safe"
    Hi
    How many calories are in the Protein shakes everybody is using? The One I take each day is usually 110-120 calories if I use the powder and 100-180 if I use a ready to drink one. Either way I have it as a part of my breakfast. That is in addition to a Banana and a light Entree.

    Have a Nice Day
    Roger
    canadianlbs wrote: »
    i do it sometimes when reasons happen. i think it would make me pretty sad as a long-term thing though.
    Hi
    Love that Avatar
    Roger
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    RogerToo wrote: »
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    If you are getting enough calories it is "safe"
    Hi
    How many calories are in the Protein shakes everybody is using? The One I take each day is usually 110-120 calories if I use the powder and 100-180 if I use a ready to drink one. Either way I have it as a part of my breakfast. That is in addition to a Banana and a light Entree.

    Have a Nice Day
    Roger
    canadianlbs wrote: »
    i do it sometimes when reasons happen. i think it would make me pretty sad as a long-term thing though.
    Hi
    Love that Avatar
    Roger

    100 kcal per 25g for the whey I use, 110 per 30g of casein, and 100 per 30g of MPI. I don't use premixes as they are all trash.
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    i'd be curious to know the amount of cals in the protein shakes that the OP mentions for breakfast/lunch
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    RogerToo wrote: »
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    If you are getting enough calories it is "safe"
    Hi
    How many calories are in the Protein shakes everybody is using? The One I take each day is usually 110-120 calories if I use the powder and 100-180 if I use a ready to drink one. Either way I have it as a part of my breakfast. That is in addition to a Banana and a light Entree.

    Have a Nice Day
    Roger
    canadianlbs wrote: »
    i do it sometimes when reasons happen. i think it would make me pretty sad as a long-term thing though.
    Hi
    Love that Avatar
    Roger

    I have a couple, generally around 120-180 with 20-25g of protein.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Melolson14 wrote: »
    Is it safe to have a protein shake for breakfast and lunch ? Then for dinner have a meal with my family. Then if I get hungry between shakes have half an apple, cracker, string cheese.

    A protein shake does not have the requisite nutrition to really be a meal replacement...I'd think you'd be lacking actual nutrition. There are shakes that are actual meal replacements that have other nutritional elements...a protein shake is just a protein supplement.
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