Eating low...weight stalled? Help? Should I eat more for a day?
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Verity1111 wrote: »I have a lot of concerns from our original post and based on all your responsesVerity1111 wrote: »So far I have lost 16lbs since October. 10 or so lbs in the last 3 weeks. I always make sure I over estimate rather than under.
This means you are losing around 3 pounds a week. Two pounds a week is recommended. Anymore then that and you are likely losing muscle and are at risk for lose skin. However it is possible you may have been losing water.
You have lost weight before but now are trying to lose weight again. Did you gain the weight back?Verity1111 wrote: »Also extra info but TMI so skip it if that bothers you but I have had tummy and digestive issues too but Im not sure if that could affect me so badly that Id go from losing 2-3lbs per week to nothing. Ive tried pills for that and it did nothing for me. I even ate almost a whole bag of broccoli today lol
What exactly are your digestive problems? Irritable bowel syndrome? Ulterative colitis? What pills are you taking?
With your history of an ED and digestive problems I do not feel it is appropriate for you to be posting on a weight loss form. It is unlikely any of the posters here are qualified to advise you and those that are understand that it is inappropriate to give you advice without access to your medical record.
You are also in a contest to lose weight despite having a history of an ED? I think you would benefit from talking to your doctor about seeing a dietitian or therapist.
Gained it back. I was bedridden for 5 months and unable to walk. I hadnt lost my pregnancy weight from my 1 year old yet at the time either so It just added on. This is the biggest Ive ever been. I dont know what my digestive issues are. No diagnosis just need to see a gastroenterologist. I have an appt for Jan. 18th. I cant use the bathroom and I seriously took 2 doses of laxative (twice in a day as it says is ok on the box) and it barely helped at all. Nothing helps. I ate broccoli. I even tried chocolate. I ate beans. lol. I tried everything and my stomach is killing me. and Im allowed to live. Just because I had an ed doesnt mean I cant be in a weight loss contest. I have also lost weight in a healthy way 3 times in the past (once in H.S. and once after each of my older two children)..
On the digestive issue. If you're constipated, fiber sometimes works well. Sometimes it's the worst thing to take and it blocks you up like it's turned that waste to cement. Oh, and one of the worst things you an do while constipated is to eat anything that might give you gas. Like beans. You don't want gas pains on top of everything else. Plus, it doesn't have the usual exit available, so the pain can last much, much longer.
As was suggested above, give fats a try and make sure you are well hydrated. Enough fat usually will help loosen things up.2 -
I don't post much in the forums, but after reading your post and responses, I really WANT to post. If you were so successful in the past, why are you asking for help now? Why don't you really on your past success to propel you forward? You asked for advice and it seems that when someone says something that goes against what you want to hear, you become rude and tell people off. Yes, I think you need a food scale. What you think you are eating and what you are actually eating could end up being two different things. I get that you don't have the $$ for one and I get that you HAD an eating disorder, however, why don't you get a scale and a therapist so you can balance the two and not have to wonder and worry? And again, with all your past success, why do you need help now? You should already have the experience and knowledge to know what to do.
When I decided to lose weight, I went to the doctor got his approval, got a scale and a dietitian. I am now normal weight. I needed to lose 73 pounds and I was able to do it in 8 months and have been maintaining with exercise, proper eating and my scale.5 -
Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »No scale? No problem, just eat a little less than you are now.
Um so eat less than 1200 calories per day? Are you nuts? One day even was 1000 calories because of abdominal pain from not using the bathroom... So tell someone who has a history of eating disorders (IE me) to go eat less than healthy. Good job!!! I have done this MANY times as I stated. I know how to measure and log my food.
In all fairness, how would she know this from your OP?
You have a new workout routine = water retention
You have digestive issues = increased weight until your next BM
You have been losing fast and you know that you are pushing it too hard. You know that you are taking risks of falling into your old habits. Have some patience and slow it down. Be kinder to your self and your body.
I feel she would know because I said in my original post I do not need help measuring my food. I specified it for a reason because I was hoping since it's a help forum they'd answer the questions I needed help with not just start saying things I said will not apply... especially since I have ED issues. I dont need to go below where I am now. I don't feel I am falling into old habits at all because I have fasted for 10 days at a time and eaten way below where I am now. I am trying to be healthier than I was. But if I go to eating 800 calories or something less I will be in old habits. I didnt know workouts add to water retention that badly
I figured it would stop after a day or two. Youre the second to suggest it. Thank you. I stopped exercising for today. I am going to go back to it and maybe alternate and take a day off every few days to see if it helps the retention and the stomach pains.
Losing 3lb a week is unhealthy. You know this. You are trying to justify it.
Yes, exercise can stall out weight loss. I'm not sure what type of workout you are doing, but when I started lifting I stalled for a month. Then one day, whoosh. Big drop that stayed off.
I read your comment about depo. I heard somewhere (so it's just an idea to consider, I have no facts) that your body can still cycle through and have periods of water retention. So check that out as well and see if you are close to when that time should be.
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
With your history and at your weight, 3 pounds a week is unhealthy.
To expect it to continue is unhealthy.
A lot of that was likely water weight, thankfully. I doubt it was fat loss as I can't see your calories working out to garner you a deficit that would result in such a loss in fat tissue.
Saying that, I agree with the others stating that I believe you need help. You cite your ED past and say you can be triggered by some posts and then in others claim you're past it. You're clearly not. If you were, this little blip in your loss and all the other myriad little reasons you start threads wouldn't cause you issues.8 -
VintageFeline wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »No scale? No problem, just eat a little less than you are now.
Um so eat less than 1200 calories per day? Are you nuts? One day even was 1000 calories because of abdominal pain from not using the bathroom... So tell someone who has a history of eating disorders (IE me) to go eat less than healthy. Good job!!! I have done this MANY times as I stated. I know how to measure and log my food.
In all fairness, how would she know this from your OP?
You have a new workout routine = water retention
You have digestive issues = increased weight until your next BM
You have been losing fast and you know that you are pushing it too hard. You know that you are taking risks of falling into your old habits. Have some patience and slow it down. Be kinder to your self and your body.
I feel she would know because I said in my original post I do not need help measuring my food. I specified it for a reason because I was hoping since it's a help forum they'd answer the questions I needed help with not just start saying things I said will not apply... especially since I have ED issues. I dont need to go below where I am now. I don't feel I am falling into old habits at all because I have fasted for 10 days at a time and eaten way below where I am now. I am trying to be healthier than I was. But if I go to eating 800 calories or something less I will be in old habits. I didnt know workouts add to water retention that badly I figured it would stop after a day or two. Youre the second to suggest it. Thank you. I stopped exercising for today. I am going to go back to it and maybe alternate and take a day off every few days to see if it helps the retention and the stomach pains.
Losing 3lb a week is unhealthy. You know this. You are trying to justify it.
Yes, exercise can stall out weight loss. I'm not sure what type of workout you are doing, but when I started lifting I stalled for a month. Then one day, whoosh. Big drop that stayed off.
I read your comment about depo. I heard somewhere (so it's just an idea to consider, I have no facts) that your body can still cycle through and have periods of water retention. So check that out as well and see if you are close to when that time should be.
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
But at your current weight, 3lbs a week IS unhealthy...... I used to weigh the same as you and found 2lbs per week to work very well.
And I started at 220lbs and never lost more than 1lb per week. 2lbs would have had me cutting way too low to be sustainable for me. So it very much depends but regardless, 3lbs is too much.
And this weight loss group, is it the one where the contest is? If so, I guarantee those people are probably engaging in unhealthy behaviours to win too and that's why they're clocking such big losses. That or they're more like 300lbs.
I started at 210, same weight as the OP, but I'm older. I couldn't lose more than 1.2 pounds a week. It would have been too much of a deficit. The larger losses came when I became much more active. In the very beginning of my loss, it was only a pound a week, if that.0 -
In regards to the constipation.. Sometimes fibre helps, other times in can make it worse. My recommendation is make a strong cup of coffee as soon as you get up and add 1Tablespoon of coconut oil to it, this should yield results by the time you've finished your cup.0
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Oh Verity, why are you putting yourself through all this worry over and over again?
I have to say that your posts do raise concerns in me for your welfare. I think that reading those well intentioned cautionary messages are hitting you hard - they are touching a raw nerve.
I think too that fundamentally you do know you are not approaching this weight loss in a sustainable or logical way, hence the repeated call for advice and reassurance from the community despite your assertions you have done this all before and know all there is to know about weight loss.
Please consider 'disregarding' the forces driving you onto losing weight at such a rapid weight, whether you seek therapy or not depends on your state of recovery, which frankly is not clear from your replies on this thread.
At the very least use MFP to your advantage and read the stickies and search for other threads about the concerns YOU are having and see what the response is to those threads....you may well save yourself the agonies of the worry and adding to your digestive issues by trying to compensate by eating vast amounts of laxatives and or broccoli.
To address your concern over this blip on the weight loss radar, have you ever considered that your tummy issues as a chronic health problem are going to deeply affect how the scales respond. Geez, as you would know there are a myriad of reasons why stalls and whooshes occur and weight predictors are only that; a prediction, not set in stone and this is in perfectly healthy individuals.
When you are not well one has to allow for this. Inflammation, increased cortisol due to stress (ie: worry and not enough sleep for starters), pain etc etc are going to all impact on the road to your goal. You really should make a bit of a pact of peace with yourself.
Please take the time to read and inform yourself about health, nutrition etc etc....I know you have been down this path more than once but things do change as our knowledge of human physiology grows, we also know more about nutrition, the importance of sustainablility with diet....this kind of stuff isn't neccessarily known or understood.
And take time for yourself too. Stop flogging yourself so hard. Have a rest day now and then and try to incorporate more mindfulness around your moods which do have HUGE impacts on one's digestive system. Perhaps meditation and Yoga between the Zumba classes....just a thought.
I do wish you well.
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Verity1111 wrote: »Gained it back. I was bedridden for 5 months and unable to walk. I hadnt lost my pregnancy weight from my 1 year old yet at the time either so It just added on. This is the biggest Ive ever been. I dont know what my digestive issues are. No diagnosis just need to see a gastroenterologist. I have an appt for Jan. 18th. I cant use the bathroom and I seriously took 2 doses of laxative (twice in a day as it says is ok on the box) and it barely helped at all. Nothing helps. I ate broccoli. I even tried chocolate. I ate beans. lol. I tried everything and my stomach is killing me. and Im allowed to live. Just because I had an ed doesnt mean I cant be in a weight loss contest. I have also lost weight in a healthy way 3 times in the past (once in H.S. and once after each of my older two children)..
These recommendations to take laxatives, eat broccoli, chocolate and beans, where are these recommendations coming from? The broccoli and beans are high in fiber which may help with constipation, as would the laxatives. But since you admit you don't have a diagnosis, how do you know how to treat these gastrointestinal issues?Verity1111 wrote: »Im already recovered. I HAD an eating disorder.
I am sorry, your responses make me uncomfortable and you need to seek out a professional. You don't have an eating disorder and recover it is something you struggle with for your entire life. You have also brought it up multiple times throughout this thread which makes me wonder about your recovery. I don't know your history and I am not trying to be rude but did a medical professional diagnosis you with an ED?Verity1111 wrote: »
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
Then I guess you disagree with all major health organizations (National Institute of Health, United States Department of Agriculture, Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics) that state 2 pounds a week is recommended for weight loss. Just because everyone in your group has unhealthy habits doesn't make them healthy.
I am glad you have a GI appointment in January, hopefully they will help you with your GI problems, the sound unpleasant.
Sometimes people may tell us things we don't want to hear but I feel you need to meet with your primary care provider asap.6 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »No scale? No problem, just eat a little less than you are now.
Um so eat less than 1200 calories per day? Are you nuts? One day even was 1000 calories because of abdominal pain from not using the bathroom... So tell someone who has a history of eating disorders (IE me) to go eat less than healthy. Good job!!! I have done this MANY times as I stated. I know how to measure and log my food.
In all fairness, how would she know this from your OP?
You have a new workout routine = water retention
You have digestive issues = increased weight until your next BM
You have been losing fast and you know that you are pushing it too hard. You know that you are taking risks of falling into your old habits. Have some patience and slow it down. Be kinder to your self and your body.
I feel she would know because I said in my original post I do not need help measuring my food. I specified it for a reason because I was hoping since it's a help forum they'd answer the questions I needed help with not just start saying things I said will not apply... especially since I have ED issues. I dont need to go below where I am now. I don't feel I am falling into old habits at all because I have fasted for 10 days at a time and eaten way below where I am now. I am trying to be healthier than I was. But if I go to eating 800 calories or something less I will be in old habits. I didnt know workouts add to water retention that badly I figured it would stop after a day or two. Youre the second to suggest it. Thank you. I stopped exercising for today. I am going to go back to it and maybe alternate and take a day off every few days to see if it helps the retention and the stomach pains.
Losing 3lb a week is unhealthy. You know this. You are trying to justify it.
Yes, exercise can stall out weight loss. I'm not sure what type of workout you are doing, but when I started lifting I stalled for a month. Then one day, whoosh. Big drop that stayed off.
I read your comment about depo. I heard somewhere (so it's just an idea to consider, I have no facts) that your body can still cycle through and have periods of water retention. So check that out as well and see if you are close to when that time should be.
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
With your history and at your weight, 3 pounds a week is unhealthy.
To expect it to continue is unhealthy.
A lot of that was likely water weight, thankfully. I doubt it was fat loss as I can't see your calories working out to garner you a deficit that would result in such a loss in fat tissue.
Saying that, I agree with the others stating that I believe you need help. You cite your ED past and say you can be triggered by some posts and then in others claim you're past it. You're clearly not. If you were, this little blip in your loss and all the other myriad little reasons you start threads wouldn't cause you issues.
I am glad you picked up on that too.2 -
Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »No scale? No problem, just eat a little less than you are now.
Um so eat less than 1200 calories per day? Are you nuts? One day even was 1000 calories because of abdominal pain from not using the bathroom... So tell someone who has a history of eating disorders (IE me) to go eat less than healthy. Good job!!! I have done this MANY times as I stated. I know how to measure and log my food.
In all fairness, how would she know this from your OP?
You have a new workout routine = water retention
You have digestive issues = increased weight until your next BM
You have been losing fast and you know that you are pushing it too hard. You know that you are taking risks of falling into your old habits. Have some patience and slow it down. Be kinder to your self and your body.
I feel she would know because I said in my original post I do not need help measuring my food. I specified it for a reason because I was hoping since it's a help forum they'd answer the questions I needed help with not just start saying things I said will not apply... especially since I have ED issues. I dont need to go below where I am now. I don't feel I am falling into old habits at all because I have fasted for 10 days at a time and eaten way below where I am now. I am trying to be healthier than I was. But if I go to eating 800 calories or something less I will be in old habits. I didnt know workouts add to water retention that badly I figured it would stop after a day or two. Youre the second to suggest it. Thank you. I stopped exercising for today. I am going to go back to it and maybe alternate and take a day off every few days to see if it helps the retention and the stomach pains.
Losing 3lb a week is unhealthy. You know this. You are trying to justify it.
Yes, exercise can stall out weight loss. I'm not sure what type of workout you are doing, but when I started lifting I stalled for a month. Then one day, whoosh. Big drop that stayed off.
I read your comment about depo. I heard somewhere (so it's just an idea to consider, I have no facts) that your body can still cycle through and have periods of water retention. So check that out as well and see if you are close to when that time should be.
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
It absolutely is. You know this. Your body can only draw a certain amount from fat stores each day, the rest comes from muscle.
Just because others in your group are doing it, doesn't make it healthy. This is just more excuses and rationalization go continue on your path. You know where it leads.
There are so many red flags and inconsistencies in your posts. I hope you get the help you need tk sort this out before it's too late.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »No scale? No problem, just eat a little less than you are now.
Um so eat less than 1200 calories per day? Are you nuts? One day even was 1000 calories because of abdominal pain from not using the bathroom... So tell someone who has a history of eating disorders (IE me) to go eat less than healthy. Good job!!! I have done this MANY times as I stated. I know how to measure and log my food.
In all fairness, how would she know this from your OP?
You have a new workout routine = water retention
You have digestive issues = increased weight until your next BM
You have been losing fast and you know that you are pushing it too hard. You know that you are taking risks of falling into your old habits. Have some patience and slow it down. Be kinder to your self and your body.
I feel she would know because I said in my original post I do not need help measuring my food. I specified it for a reason because I was hoping since it's a help forum they'd answer the questions I needed help with not just start saying things I said will not apply... especially since I have ED issues. I dont need to go below where I am now. I don't feel I am falling into old habits at all because I have fasted for 10 days at a time and eaten way below where I am now. I am trying to be healthier than I was. But if I go to eating 800 calories or something less I will be in old habits. I didnt know workouts add to water retention that badly I figured it would stop after a day or two. Youre the second to suggest it. Thank you. I stopped exercising for today. I am going to go back to it and maybe alternate and take a day off every few days to see if it helps the retention and the stomach pains.
Losing 3lb a week is unhealthy. You know this. You are trying to justify it.
Yes, exercise can stall out weight loss. I'm not sure what type of workout you are doing, but when I started lifting I stalled for a month. Then one day, whoosh. Big drop that stayed off.
I read your comment about depo. I heard somewhere (so it's just an idea to consider, I have no facts) that your body can still cycle through and have periods of water retention. So check that out as well and see if you are close to when that time should be.
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
It absolutely is. You know this. Your body can only draw a certain amount from fat stores each day, the rest comes from muscle.
Just because others in your group are doing it, doesn't make it healthy. This is just more excuses and rationalization go to continue on your path. You know where it leads.
There are so many red flags and inconsistencies in your posts. I hope you get the help you need tk to sort this out before it's too late.
I wish you well.
Gah, typing on my cell sucks. Fixed it.0 -
I hope you listen to the concern. The above posters are so right and it seems like alot of people are really trying to help you. Please take their advice,and don't brush it off.0
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Verity1111 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »yYou have a history with ED and are currently in a contest to lose weight? You've successfully lost weight "many" times, but don't understand that normal, healthy weight loss is not linear? You've lost 10 lbs in the last 3 weeks? Sounds like you would benefit most from a deep breath and some education in health & fitness.
you didn't address this comment OP - you have an eating disorder but are in a weight loss contest??????
Im already recovered. I HAD an eating disorder. Im 210 lbs. Eating disorder or not I am not healthy right now so I need to lose weight. Just because I am susceptible doesnt mean I cant live my life. But Im still susceptible enough that if Im eating 1200 calories and keep being told to eat less I might panic and do it. I know logically I shouldn't so I am trying not to listen to that advice.
No, you still have an eating disorder. That would be like an alcoholic saying they USED to be an alcoholic. They will always be an alcoholic. Mental illness does not go away, or get cured.
Without practicing outside of my scope, I'd like to express the opinion you still have a hard struggle with your ED. To think that 3 pounds per week is healthy. (please note: My highest weight was 267, I came back to MFP at ~240 in october.) I only lost greater than 1-1.5 pounds a week the first week, due to water weight. This morning, when I weighed, I was up about 3-4 pounds. But I didn't sweat it, because I know our bodies fluctuate multiple pounds multiple times a day.
During your worst time with your ED, did you seek professional help? Sorry if this has been answered already, I merely skimmed through some of the posts.
Sorry if I sound mother'ish, it's just concerning seeing some of your comments. I would seek the advice of a professional who is able to legally give you advice. I wish you the best of luck!9 -
successgal1 wrote: »My advice/inexpert opinion, since I suggested and you confirmed..... Get some more sleep. 8 uninterrupted hours a night at minimum. Send the kids away if you have to, or go to a hotel. I get constipated when I don't get enough sleep. Even 6 hours is not enough. 8 hours I'm good with no trouble in the restroom and 10 hours I wake up weighing less. In my inexpert opinion you're not recovering from workouts, your body is stressed, anxiety over it all causes more stress, and yes, actually eating more nutritious food, not just random calories, may help.
My diary is locked. I never said I wasn't eating nutrition food either. Especially the last week. Mainly homemade fresh ingredients. Fresh carrots, celery, onion, spinach, arugala, homemade lasagna, etc. The most I ate that wasn't was some vegetarian meat substitutes with it. I don't eat like that all the time because I have kids so I zap stuff sometimes but it was thanksgiving and I had a lot of fresh vegetables and fruits left to use up. Still do actually. lol. I agree with the sleep...I should probably try to sleep more but its difficult. Some of the weight fell off. I went close to 208 (I was stuck at 210-211). So I guess it's coming off gradually. I went back to exercising yesterday. I only skipped one day. I don't want to stop and then lose my motivation.0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »No scale? No problem, just eat a little less than you are now.
Um so eat less than 1200 calories per day? Are you nuts? One day even was 1000 calories because of abdominal pain from not using the bathroom... So tell someone who has a history of eating disorders (IE me) to go eat less than healthy. Good job!!! I have done this MANY times as I stated. I know how to measure and log my food.
In all fairness, how would she know this from your OP?
You have a new workout routine = water retention
You have digestive issues = increased weight until your next BM
You have been losing fast and you know that you are pushing it too hard. You know that you are taking risks of falling into your old habits. Have some patience and slow it down. Be kinder to your self and your body.
I feel she would know because I said in my original post I do not need help measuring my food. I specified it for a reason because I was hoping since it's a help forum they'd answer the questions I needed help with not just start saying things I said will not apply... especially since I have ED issues. I dont need to go below where I am now. I don't feel I am falling into old habits at all because I have fasted for 10 days at a time and eaten way below where I am now. I am trying to be healthier than I was. But if I go to eating 800 calories or something less I will be in old habits. I didnt know workouts add to water retention that badly I figured it would stop after a day or two. Youre the second to suggest it. Thank you. I stopped exercising for today. I am going to go back to it and maybe alternate and take a day off every few days to see if it helps the retention and the stomach pains.
Losing 3lb a week is unhealthy. You know this. You are trying to justify it.
Yes, exercise can stall out weight loss. I'm not sure what type of workout you are doing, but when I started lifting I stalled for a month. Then one day, whoosh. Big drop that stayed off.
I read your comment about depo. I heard somewhere (so it's just an idea to consider, I have no facts) that your body can still cycle through and have periods of water retention. So check that out as well and see if you are close to when that time should be.
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
But at your current weight, 3lbs a week IS unhealthy...... I used to weigh the same as you and found 2lbs per week to work very well.
And I started at 220lbs and never lost more than 1lb per week. 2lbs would have had me cutting way too low to be sustainable for me. So it very much depends but regardless, 3lbs is too much.
And this weight loss group, is it the one where the contest is? If so, I guarantee those people are probably engaging in unhealthy behaviours to win too and that's why they're clocking such big losses. That or they're more like 300lbs.
No it's a different group. And they're doing things a lot more unhealthy then me I do have to say. A couple people eating 800 calories I just found out on medifast and arguing because medifast is balanced it's OK but I figure it's processed food so how healthy can it be? But it's not my place to judge because I am not a dietitian..yet. I am studying nutrition in school but I don't like to do anything without a second opinion. Regardless my doctor knows Im on 1200 calories and said it's okay because they have been wanting me to lose weight for a while due to my health conditions. I have multiple health problems right now with no definitive cause and my weight might be playing a part, hence the low net calories. The reason I'm scared to go above that as well is because I'm not sure what I'm burning with Zumba. I keep logging it as 500 per hour but there seems to be no consensus on how much I'm burning. Someone said 200-300 someone said 700 someone else said they burn 600 and they're thinner than me. I'm just trying to find a middle so I won't accidentally over eat. Although I guess unless I'm WAY off I won't gain.0 -
I'm going to get my BMR testing in a month or two so this will be easier lol Maybe my VO2 also..0
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cerise_noir wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »No scale? No problem, just eat a little less than you are now.
Um so eat less than 1200 calories per day? Are you nuts? One day even was 1000 calories because of abdominal pain from not using the bathroom... So tell someone who has a history of eating disorders (IE me) to go eat less than healthy. Good job!!! I have done this MANY times as I stated. I know how to measure and log my food.
In all fairness, how would she know this from your OP?
You have a new workout routine = water retention
You have digestive issues = increased weight until your next BM
You have been losing fast and you know that you are pushing it too hard. You know that you are taking risks of falling into your old habits. Have some patience and slow it down. Be kinder to your self and your body.
I feel she would know because I said in my original post I do not need help measuring my food. I specified it for a reason because I was hoping since it's a help forum they'd answer the questions I needed help with not just start saying things I said will not apply... especially since I have ED issues. I dont need to go below where I am now. I don't feel I am falling into old habits at all because I have fasted for 10 days at a time and eaten way below where I am now. I am trying to be healthier than I was. But if I go to eating 800 calories or something less I will be in old habits. I didnt know workouts add to water retention that badly I figured it would stop after a day or two. Youre the second to suggest it. Thank you. I stopped exercising for today. I am going to go back to it and maybe alternate and take a day off every few days to see if it helps the retention and the stomach pains.
Losing 3lb a week is unhealthy. You know this. You are trying to justify it.
Yes, exercise can stall out weight loss. I'm not sure what type of workout you are doing, but when I started lifting I stalled for a month. Then one day, whoosh. Big drop that stayed off.
I read your comment about depo. I heard somewhere (so it's just an idea to consider, I have no facts) that your body can still cycle through and have periods of water retention. So check that out as well and see if you are close to when that time should be.
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
But at your current weight, 3lbs a week IS unhealthy...... I used to weigh the same as you and found 2lbs per week to work very well.
Well my dr hasn't complained? They told me to lose weight and said that a low net calories was OK for a short time period. I was even told 1000 was okay for a few weeks. Im doing 1200. Im only 5'4" so I'm considered obese. Dr is concerned because I have chest pains, breathing trouble, severe acid reflux, digestive issues, etc and it has gotten way worse with my weight gain.0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »OP--in my opinion, you need help. You know--but you don't know, this jumping all over the place with a million excuses and just looking for information that you like isn't going to get you where you want to go. You need more guidance and daily support.
Because I didnt ask anyone for their opinion. I asked if eating more for a day and taking an exercise break would help the water fall off. My doctor for the 100th time said I'm doing fine. I don't think I should have to defend myself on a forum of people who are supposed to be there for help not judgement. I'm not starving myself or eating in the 3 digits so there's no reason to be flocking at me. I have always lost weight fast. I used to eat 1700-1900 calories (netting about 1200) and lost 2lbs a week. I was only about 175lbs. I was exercising an hr a day then too. I'm netting 1200 again now and losing a bit faster because I'm 210. Considering the weight difference this is the same rate I have always lost weight and I've never had a complaint. It's always helped my health also.0 -
Verity1111 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »OP--in my opinion, you need help. You know--but you don't know, this jumping all over the place with a million excuses and just looking for information that you like isn't going to get you where you want to go. You need more guidance and daily support.
Because I didnt ask anyone for their opinion. I asked if eating more for a day and taking an exercise break would help the water fall off. My doctor for the 100th time said I'm doing fine. I don't think I should have to defend myself on a forum of people who are supposed to be there for help not judgement. I'm not starving myself or eating in the 3 digits so there's no reason to be flocking at me. I have always lost weight fast. I used to eat 1700-1900 calories (netting about 1200) and lost 2lbs a week. I was only about 175lbs. I was exercising an hr a day then too. I'm netting 1200 again now and losing a bit faster because I'm 210. Considering the weight difference this is the same rate I have always lost weight and I've never had a complaint. It's always helped my health also.
LOL...you posted on a public forum so yes, you did in fact ask people for their opinions!5 -
Verity1111 wrote: »successgal1 wrote: »My advice/inexpert opinion, since I suggested and you confirmed..... Get some more sleep. 8 uninterrupted hours a night at minimum. Send the kids away if you have to, or go to a hotel. I get constipated when I don't get enough sleep. Even 6 hours is not enough. 8 hours I'm good with no trouble in the restroom and 10 hours I wake up weighing less. In my inexpert opinion you're not recovering from workouts, your body is stressed, anxiety over it all causes more stress, and yes, actually eating more nutritious food, not just random calories, may help.
My diary is locked. I never said I wasn't eating nutrition food either. Especially the last week. Mainly homemade fresh ingredients. Fresh carrots, celery, onion, spinach, arugala, homemade lasagna, etc. The most I ate that wasn't was some vegetarian meat substitutes with it. I don't eat like that all the time because I have kids so I zap stuff sometimes but it was thanksgiving and I had a lot of fresh vegetables and fruits left to use up. Still do actually. lol. I agree with the sleep...I should probably try to sleep more but its difficult. Some of the weight fell off. I went close to 208 (I was stuck at 210-211). So I guess it's coming off gradually. I went back to exercising yesterday. I only skipped one day. I don't want to stop and then lose my motivation.
I never said you weren't eating nutritious foods. From what I gather in this thread of ridiculousness, you asked if you should eat more calories, period. I said yes, and suggested that you get those calories from nutritious food. I suggested sleep more then anything since you confirmed you don't get enough, and that the extra food itself might help with the quality of the sleep.
Now I'm on the same boat as everyone else. You're more defensive then anyone has a right to be when asking for opinions (which yes in fact you DID do) and help. Bye. *kitten*6 -
Verity1111 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Verity1111 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »No scale? No problem, just eat a little less than you are now.
Um so eat less than 1200 calories per day? Are you nuts? One day even was 1000 calories because of abdominal pain from not using the bathroom... So tell someone who has a history of eating disorders (IE me) to go eat less than healthy. Good job!!! I have done this MANY times as I stated. I know how to measure and log my food.
In all fairness, how would she know this from your OP?
You have a new workout routine = water retention
You have digestive issues = increased weight until your next BM
You have been losing fast and you know that you are pushing it too hard. You know that you are taking risks of falling into your old habits. Have some patience and slow it down. Be kinder to your self and your body.
I feel she would know because I said in my original post I do not need help measuring my food. I specified it for a reason because I was hoping since it's a help forum they'd answer the questions I needed help with not just start saying things I said will not apply... especially since I have ED issues. I dont need to go below where I am now. I don't feel I am falling into old habits at all because I have fasted for 10 days at a time and eaten way below where I am now. I am trying to be healthier than I was. But if I go to eating 800 calories or something less I will be in old habits. I didnt know workouts add to water retention that badly I figured it would stop after a day or two. Youre the second to suggest it. Thank you. I stopped exercising for today. I am going to go back to it and maybe alternate and take a day off every few days to see if it helps the retention and the stomach pains.
Losing 3lb a week is unhealthy. You know this. You are trying to justify it.
Yes, exercise can stall out weight loss. I'm not sure what type of workout you are doing, but when I started lifting I stalled for a month. Then one day, whoosh. Big drop that stayed off.
I read your comment about depo. I heard somewhere (so it's just an idea to consider, I have no facts) that your body can still cycle through and have periods of water retention. So check that out as well and see if you are close to when that time should be.
I disagree? I dont feel losing 3lbs a week is unhealthy. People in my other weight loss group are losing about the same. didnt know the depo part. Thank you for the info!
But at your current weight, 3lbs a week IS unhealthy...... I used to weigh the same as you and found 2lbs per week to work very well.
Well my dr hasn't complained? They told me to lose weight and said that a low net calories was OK for a short time period. I was even told 1000 was okay for a few weeks. Im doing 1200. Im only 5'4" so I'm considered obese. Dr is concerned because I have chest pains, breathing trouble, severe acid reflux, digestive issues, etc and it has gotten way worse with my weight gain.
If my doctor knew I had a history of ED and recommended a 1,000 calorie goal for me, I would have concerns. I understand that lower calorie diets can sometimes be appropriate for obese people who are having significant health issues related to their weight, but this needs to be balanced against how detrimental it can be to recovery for someone to reduce their calories that much. At the very least, he should be recommending resources to help you balance this 1,000 calorie goal against the very real risk of exacerbating your issues with food.3 -
honestly - doctors in general in the US get very limited nutrition training - I'd work with a registered dietician with specialized training...
heck, my doctor still hands me a piece of paper with my BMI on it and tells me I'm overweight and then makes comments about how I don't look like I weight as much as I do...0 -
deannalfisher wrote: »honestly - doctors in general in the US get very limited nutrition training - I'd work with a registered dietician with specialized training...
heck, my doctor still hands me a piece of paper with my BMI on it and tells me I'm overweight and then makes comments about how I don't look like I weight as much as I do...
I agree -- there are RDs who specialize in ED recovery, including helping people lose weight while maintaining recovery. This would be a good avenue for OP to investigate if she's able to.0 -
weight loss isn't at all linear. slow downs, full stops and reversals are all common.
when i started lifting i retained water for nearly 3 weeks and my rate of loss since incorporating strength training has been slower than before generally. if i'm sore, my weight goes up (water helping to restore the muscles). If i am ovulating or have my period my weight goes up. if i eat too much salt my weight goes up. if i drink a bunch of alcohol my weight drops down for a day. and there a ton of other things that will affect it as well that i'm not even aware of. honestly, the last time my scale showed the same exact number three days in a row i thought maybe the batteries were dying.
if you are stressing about the scale you can get a free app that will trend your weight for you and may alleviate some of the anxiety of normal fluctuations. if you're worried that you'll become numbers obsessed if you weigh yourself daily, try weekly measuring with a tape measure. I've found that sometimes even when the scale is stalled i can see progress in inches.
if you're counting calories then you are already playing the numbers game, a food scale will only increase your accuracy at it. if you don't want to use it though that is a personal choice and i think people suggest it so often only because so many have found that it really makes a difference.
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janejellyroll wrote: »
If my doctor knew I had a history of ED and recommended a 1,000 calorie goal for me, I would have concerns. I understand that lower calorie diets can sometimes be appropriate for obese people who are having significant health issues related to their weight, but this needs to be balanced against how detrimental it can be to recovery for someone to reduce their calories that much. At the very least, he should be recommending resources to help you balance this 1,000 calorie goal against the very real risk of exacerbating your issues with food.
Sadly, it seems like that ship has sailed.
OP, you've received some very honest advice here. I hope you take the concerns and care to heart and help yourself.
It does not sound like you're in a mentally healthy place to lose weight. I agree with the suggestions to see a licensed counselor as soon as possible.
Please take care of yourself!
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