Need to vent (again) and need some support
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Oh @elphie754 , I am so sorry to hear that you continue to be plagued with horrible physical symptoms like this, as well as dealing with the emotional overload that pregnancy can bring on top of employment woes....
Whew that is SO huge no wonder you feel vulnerable and overwhelmed and I would challenge anyone to feel any differently. Pregnancy is a tough gig even 'perfect' ones and under the circumstances I think you are very brave and doing a magnificant job of keeping body and soul together.
I wish I had a sure fire cure for your skin and to make you feel better but sadly all I can do is offer my best wishes, long distance hugs and unwavering support.
Anecdotally, I remember having itchy skin with my 1st, especially at night but no where near your dreadful symptoms. I also remember it resolving virtually immediately after my Daughter was born and a sage older Midwife commenting that the itchies were from overloaded female hormones...I dunno how right she was medically speaking or whether it was a bit on the 'old wives tales' but my 2nd pregnancy with my Son was free of the itching.
I really hope the steroids help, I know you a worried about taking them but your OB will give you the best regime and dosage to help you and not hurt bubs. You must be absolutely worn out as this pregnancy has been a real trial. You deserve and need all the help that is available, lean on your So's, other family, friends, medicos, your MFP family etc as MUCH as you want and need too.
All the very best
Karen
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I felt terrible through the whole 9 months of both my pregnancies plus I was on more medication than I would have liked. I also had to have CT scan during my first pregnancy which troubled me a lot. However, one of my doctors said to me that I had to be well for my baby to be well. And yes there are risks involved in everything but sometimes we don't have the control over things. So, think of it as if you are doing it for your baby because baby is ultimately who are doing it for after yourself.... I dunno it helped me a little. Hope you feel much better soon!!!0
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I've never been pregnant, but I am truly sorry you are feeling so awful.
I have had hives multiple times in my life, but they were brought on by stress. Could stress possibly be the cause / contributing to your hives ?
I know with my hives none of the medication seemed to work. The medicine would work for a little while, but sooner rather than later it would be like I hadn't taken anything.
Obviously with hives it's hard to identify the cause and I wasn't sure when I got them the first time it wasn't an allergen causing them, but since then I have gotten them multiple times all at points of high stress.
Meditation and distraction help me when I'm suffering from hives. I can't stand any clothing or anything touching my skin so I'll try to stay home and scantily clad as possible. Water also helps me - both drinking it and bathing / sitting in it.
It's really just awful though and I'm sorry you are going through it.
It is very very possible stress is making it worse.
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Given that you are quite reactive when you're not pregnant, pregnancy tends to increase histamine reactions in someone that already has histamine issues. Have you ever researched abnormal histamine responses and/or mastocytosis? It sounds to me like you could actually have one of those issues going on and they are treated very differently from "standard" allergies (be it food, environmental, or both). I would lean heavily towards histamine intolerance but only you really know all that is going on with your body. If you do some research on abnormal histamine response you will get a boat load of info that could prove very helpful not just while you're pregnant, but afterwards as well. Researching masto as well would probably give you enough of a view to decide if either of these could be an issue for you. If one is, take it to your doctor for help (hopefully).
Sorry this is so miserable. :-(2 -
NICU nurse here. Please please please do not take any medication or any dosage of medications not recommended by your OB (this is in response to you saying you're taking more than you should be). I know you really don't feel well right now, but you need to keep going to your doctor to find a treatment that works for you AND is safe for baby. The last thing you want is for your baby to be ill from medication you are taking. I take care of sick infants every day, many who are sick from medications the mother was taking during pregnancy. Some medications can cause permanent issues or defects. Good luck and I really hope you have some relief soon!8
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Hi Elphie, Sorry you are going thru all this, hugs...remember you are loved and so many are this board are by your side and trolley care too, we all want to see you feel better. Have you seen your other doctor, since you have been off your meds? Can he/see offer you any advise? Maybe your ob/gyn can go over all the meds you are on and see if any can be cut back or eliminated from your diet. And go talk to your employer, tell them you have been sick and you do not want to lose this job as once your baby arrives you are sure you will be better again. Perhaps a doctor's note's to go along with your visit so they they know you are not making this up. Perhaps you can just take a leave of absence for the remainder of your pregnancy. As one poster said hives can be coming from stress too as you are worrying a lot . You want to do everything right for the babies health, you want to please the so's, and you don't want to lose your job. Thats a lot of worry. Take care of yourself, read some baby care books, look at baby supplies, keep your mind busy on good things, think happy thoughts.0
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Not sure if these fall under your allergy umbrella - baking soda and apple cider vinegar. You can make a paste or mix in warm water with the baking soda. Mix the ACV with warm water to soak yourself in or blot on with a cloth. Might help with the hives. I'm sure any relief from the constant itching will help.3
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I honestly didn't think this week could get any worse, but I was wrong. (Guys may want to stop here) as I woke up for work, and stood up, had a gush of fluid come out. Okay, once not a big deal, kept going with my daily routine. Stood up from sitting in shower and felt it again. So we called the OB and she said doubts it is an issue but to come in because it could potentially mean a small rupture in the amniotic sac, and what I am feeling is amniotic fluid.
My Male SO and I were supposed to be going into work together at 11. He asked if I wanted him to come with me which I said yes but also don't want him to get into trouble with work. He gets all pissed that I'm actually going to the OB and tells me I'm pretty much freaking out over nothing. Yesbthay could very well be the case, but the baby has been the one thing that has been keeping me from completely melting down, and now it feels like I could even lose that, which would absolutely kill me.
Of course he called out and is upset with me because he thinks it's nothing. I'm not really sure why he's so upset that I'm somewhat freaking out. I think from now on, I will just keep any complication to myself and take care of it myself.0 -
I honestly didn't think this week could get any worse, but I was wrong. (Guys may want to stop here) as I woke up for work, and stood up, had a gush of fluid come out. Okay, once not a big deal, kept going with my daily routine. Stood up from sitting in shower and felt it again. So we called the OB and she said doubts it is an issue but to come in because it could potentially mean a small rupture in the amniotic sac, and what I am feeling is amniotic fluid.
My Male SO and I were supposed to be going into work together at 11. He asked if I wanted him to come with me which I said yes but also don't want him to get into trouble with work. He gets all pissed that I'm actually going to the OB and tells me I'm pretty much freaking out over nothing. Yesbthay could very well be the case, but the baby has been the one thing that has been keeping me from completely melting down, and now it feels like I could even lose that, which would absolutely kill me.
Of course he called out and is upset with me because he thinks it's nothing. I'm not really sure why he's so upset that I'm somewhat freaking out. I think from now on, I will just keep any complication to myself and take care of it myself.
I'm really sorry you're having to deal with that right now. I think checking it out is absolutely the right thing to do. Baby is probably fine (this happened to my sister last year and my nephew was fine), but you're going to feel so much better if you get it checked out. It's completely understandable that you'd want to make sure everything was okay. I'll be thinking of you today -- I've never had a baby, but I understand how awful it feels when you have relationship anxiety and feel like you have angered an SO.0 -
@elphie754 I hate to hear this. Lots of hugs your way. This happened to my sister with one of her pregnancies and it wasn't amniotic fluid and she and the baby were fine, but it was very scary and not "nothing".1
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It's time for baby animal gifs:
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I sincerely hope that you and the babe are fine! I've never been pregnant, but that sounds terrifying. I'm sure it's probably nothing to worry about but given all the problems you've had so far and being pregnant of course you want to go to the doctor to make sure everything is fine.
I feel like your SO could have been a tad more supportive. Even if it is nothing, shouldn't take any chances with the baby or you.0 -
Bit of an update: saw OB, its not amniotic fluid, (warning, guys may want to stop here lol) just discharge that apparently gets worse during 3rd trimester, so that makes me feel much better. Ultra sound showed a healthy, normal sized baby girl with plenty of amniotic fluid wrould her (any where between 5cm-25cm is normal, and it's 13cm right now).
I did however get sent to hospital L&D (literally across the street from my OB). My blood pressure was 82/44 so she is a bit concerned about that. I'm also very dehydrated (barely ate or drank anything in the past 4-5 days) so they are giving me a ton of IV fluids. I'll likely get to go home later today.
SO had to go to work so "sister wife" came to stay with me. He apologized, apparently he woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and wasn't feeling the best himself. Then promised that when he gets home he will make my favorite dessert to make it up to me.6 -
Bit of an update: saw OB, its not amniotic fluid, (warning, guys may want to stop here lol) just discharge that apparently gets worse during 3rd trimester, so that makes me feel much better. Ultra sound showed a healthy, normal sized baby girl with plenty of amniotic fluid wrould her (any where between 5cm-25cm is normal, and it's 13cm right now).
I did however get sent to hospital L&D (literally across the street from my OB). My blood pressure was 82/44 so she is a bit concerned about that. I'm also very dehydrated (barely ate or drank anything in the past 4-5 days) so they are giving me a ton of IV fluids. I'll likely get to go home later today.
SO had to go to work so "sister wife" came to stay with me. He apologized, apparently he woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and wasn't feeling the best himself. Then promised that when he gets home he will make my favorite dessert to make it up to me.
Yay for the good news and the dessert!1 -
I hope you feel better with the IV fluids. It's been a rough go for you. Do tell us about this dessert though! I'm sorry your SO was difficult this morning, but at least he realized it, and apologized. It doesn't help with your stress levels though.1
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Are the hives PUPPs? Dandelion root tea and Tea Tree oil was the only thing that worked for me. Later on my SIL found GrandPa's Old Pine Tar soap and that was soo good. It maybe worth a shot.
ETA: Oh geeze I just read further. I'm so glad everything is okay!0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »I hope you feel better with the IV fluids. It's been a rough go for you. Do tell us about this dessert though! I'm sorry your SO was difficult this morning, but at least he realized it, and apologized. It doesn't help with your stress levels though.
It's called flourless chocolate cake. If it was possible to overdose on chocolate, this would definitely count lol. Definitely not an everyday indulgence because a small piece has enough calories for an entire day lol. Ingredients are basically-butter, eggs, sugar, cocoa, chocolate morsels and a drop of vanilla extract. It is absolutely amazing!Are the hives PUPPs? Dandelion root tea and Tea Tree oil was the only thing that worked for me. Later on my SIL found GrandPa's Old Pine Tar soap and that was soo good. It maybe worth a shot.
ETA: Oh geeze I just read further. I'm so glad everything is okay!
No, it's not PUPPs. The pattern of breaking out is the exact opposite. OB said PUPPS usually affects the abdomen and chest, and very rarely the face. My breakouts are my arms, legs, neck and face. My abdomen doesn't typically break out. Funny you metioned pine tar soap. I use it whenever I get poison ivy. I tried it when this first started, but hasn't really helped much. As gross as this may sound, I've been showering with almost no soap (with the exception of shampoo, conditioner and if there is visible dirt). I've just been using a loufa with plain water. I thought it was possible that the "fragrance" in soaps could be making it worse.1 -
Whew, woke up to the leaky liquid and grumpy guy post this morning and have been worried ever since. (The nana in me coming out)
I'm glad those 2 concerns are on the mend, and hope the hives are too. (Calamine lotion may relieve the itch)
Keep up with the venting here when you need to- just verbalising can be cathartic.
Lots of hugs to you, babe, and the SOs.
Cheers, h.
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middlehaitch wrote: »Whew, woke up to the leaky liquid and grumpy guy post this morning and have been worried ever since. (The nana in me coming out)
I'm glad those 2 concerns are on the mend, and hope the hives are too. (Calamine lotion may relieve the itch)
Keep up with the venting here when you need to- just verbalising can be cathartic.
Lots of hugs to you, babe, and the SOs.
Cheers, h.
Thank you. I haven't tried the calamine yet, but intend on picking it up from the pharmacy on the way home. allergist yesterday also prescribed a low dose of prednisone taper, so decrease the dose every few days for about two weeks. Was unsure about it since I keep hearing that steroids during pregnancy is not good, but OB okayed it today and actually reccomended it. My allergist had actually called her yesterday to run it by her. She said since I'm already third trimester, that it isn't as concerning and it's a short enough duration that she's not worried.2 -
Oh gosh.
You've made it 27 weeks. You're 3/4 of the way there, and your baby girl is healthy. Just hang in there a little bit longer. It will all be worth it.
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Elphie, I'm glad everything turned out well for you and the baby.0
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nutmegoreo wrote: »I hope you feel better with the IV fluids. It's been a rough go for you. Do tell us about this dessert though! I'm sorry your SO was difficult this morning, but at least he realized it, and apologized. It doesn't help with your stress levels though.
It's called flourless chocolate cake. If it was possible to overdose on chocolate, this would definitely count lol. Definitely not an everyday indulgence because a small piece has enough calories for an entire day lol. Ingredients are basically-butter, eggs, sugar, cocoa, cholesterol morsels and a drop of vanilla extract. It is absolutely amazing!
I know you meant chocolate morsels, but I've read about flourless chocolate cake and cholesterol morsels sounds more accurate.
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I'm so glad you are feeling better and it wasn't anything too serious. Although the dehydration can be so glad you are staying on top of that.0
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nutmegoreo wrote: »I hope you feel better with the IV fluids. It's been a rough go for you. Do tell us about this dessert though! I'm sorry your SO was difficult this morning, but at least he realized it, and apologized. It doesn't help with your stress levels though.
It's called flourless chocolate cake. If it was possible to overdose on chocolate, this would definitely count lol. Definitely not an everyday indulgence because a small piece has enough calories for an entire day lol. Ingredients are basically-butter, eggs, sugar, cocoa, cholesterol morsels and a drop of vanilla extract. It is absolutely amazing!
I know you meant chocolate morsels, but I've read about flourless chocolate cake and cholesterol morsels sounds more accurate.
LMAO, even with rereading what I type, I missed that.chocolate_owl wrote: »Oh gosh.
You've made it 27 weeks. You're 3/4 of the way there, and your baby girl is healthy. Just hang in there a little bit longer. It will all be worth it.
So cute!!!GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Elphie, I'm glad everything turned out well for you and the baby.
Thank you, so am I.
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kshama2001 wrote: »
Oh my goodness. The cuteness.... it hurts!!! I want them all!0 -
kschwab0203 wrote: »One of my girlfriends experienced something similar when she was pregnant with her first. I believe it was called PUPP syndrome. Not sure if this is what you are experiencing, but when you mentioned the hives it reminded me of this.
I had difficult pregnancies with my first and third and it's no fun at all so I can completely understand how frustrated you are feeling. As everyone keeps saying, pregnancy is temporary and you are more than half way there. Just hang on a little bit longer. ((((HUGS)))))
Yes! I thought the same thing when I read about the hives. I also had a friend who had PUPP and it was horrible. She was covered in hives and itched all the time. OP - have your doctors considered this as a possibility?0 -
kschwab0203 wrote: »One of my girlfriends experienced something similar when she was pregnant with her first. I believe it was called PUPP syndrome. Not sure if this is what you are experiencing, but when you mentioned the hives it reminded me of this.
I had difficult pregnancies with my first and third and it's no fun at all so I can completely understand how frustrated you are feeling. As everyone keeps saying, pregnancy is temporary and you are more than half way there. Just hang on a little bit longer. ((((HUGS)))))
Yes! I thought the same thing when I read about the hives. I also had a friend who had PUPP and it was horrible. She was covered in hives and itched all the time. OP - have your doctors considered this as a possibility?
They have ruled it out because I don't have typical pattern of hives seen during PUPPs0 -
kschwab0203 wrote: »One of my girlfriends experienced something similar when she was pregnant with her first. I believe it was called PUPP syndrome. Not sure if this is what you are experiencing, but when you mentioned the hives it reminded me of this.
I had difficult pregnancies with my first and third and it's no fun at all so I can completely understand how frustrated you are feeling. As everyone keeps saying, pregnancy is temporary and you are more than half way there. Just hang on a little bit longer. ((((HUGS)))))
Yes! I thought the same thing when I read about the hives. I also had a friend who had PUPP and it was horrible. She was covered in hives and itched all the time. OP - have your doctors considered this as a possibility?
Later in the thread she said her doctor ruled it out -- it isn't compatible with her symptoms.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
Holy, that poor dog. Like a gumball machine! They are so cute though. My one had eight just before I got her. She was a good mom, but they were the dickens getting into trouble.
@elphie754 That cake sounds amazing!1
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