How does a virus lead to fat.

flagrantavidity

I was doing a bit of morning reading and stumbled across this.

"The Mysterious Virus That Could Cause Obesity"

(Excerpted from The Secret Life of Fat: The Science Behind the Body's Least Understood Organ and What It Means for You by Sylvia Tara.W. W. Norton & Company)

https://www.wired.com/2016/12/mysterious-virus-cause-obesity/

rainbowbow

As far as i'm concerned this is irrelevant. I would say most people have absolutely screwed up hunger cues. Whether it's leptin resistance, years of obesity, years of eating very high volume foods, emotional issues, inability to feel full, etc.

The fact of the matter is volume and calorie density are not the same things.

People who are obese (regardless of this virus), are rarely over-eating their total calories because of broccoli or greens or celery or melons.

There are a million reasons why someone might be more hungry than others and subsequently eat *more*, this doesn't mean they don't have control over their total calorie intake or calorie density of the foods they are consuming.

Stories like this along with the plethora of junk science we constantly see in the media doesn't do anything to further empower individuals to control their body weight. We don't need a hundred more studies with reasons why "it's not our fault" we need greater education on nutrition, basic biology, kinesiology, and more. Acknowledging the problem lies with our daily habits, routines, and choices is paramount in actually addressing the issue.

LenGray

100% what @rainbowbow said.

flagrantavidity

rainbowbow wrote: »

As far as i'm concerned Stories like this along with the plethora of junk science we constantly see in the media doesn't do anything to further empower individuals to control their body weight. We don't need a hundred more studies with reasons why "it's not our fault" we need greater education on nutrition, basic biology, kinesiology, and more. Acknowledging the problem lies with our daily habits, routines, and choices is paramount in actually addressing the issue.

Skepticism and criticism is a must when it comes to health science. There are calculated dishonesties by those who sell remedies deliberately faked by unscrupulous scientists.

I whole heartedly disagree with you. We do need continued studies to understand our biology. To be so naive to believe otherwise is, quite frankly- sad. Spending money on Sciences to better understand human biological function is the optimific path.

Junk science Is an untested theory. While these assertions in this article/book are unquestionably unique, they are not untested. The results need to be examined to understand the results, a far cry from junk science.

Not everyone is looking for an excuse to walk away from a problem. Some seek understanding the root cause that might help a person to take the right road to successful results. I.e. Some alcoholics quit cold turkey, others need the help of a 12 step program.

It was an interesting read, I am going to pick up the book and my guess is that is exactly what this article was designed to do - sell a book.

zyxst

Wow, I got fat because of chickens. Who knew?

rainbowbow

flagrantavidity wrote: »

rainbowbow wrote: »

As far as i'm concerned Stories like this along with the plethora of junk science we constantly see in the media doesn't do anything to further empower individuals to control their body weight. We don't need a hundred more studies with reasons why "it's not our fault" we need greater education on nutrition, basic biology, kinesiology, and more. Acknowledging the problem lies with our daily habits, routines, and choices is paramount in actually addressing the issue.

Skepticism and criticism is a must when it comes to health science. There are calculated dishonesties by those who sell remedies deliberately faked by unscrupulous scientists.

I whole heartedly disagree with you. We do need continued studies to understand our biology. To be so naive to believe otherwise is, quite frankly- sad. Spending money on Sciences to better understand human biological function is the optimific path.

Junk science Is an untested theory. While these assertions in this article/book are unquestionably unique, they are not untested. The results need to be examined to understand the results, a far cry from junk science.

Not everyone is looking for an excuse to walk away from a problem. Some seek understanding the root cause that might help a person to take the right road to successful results. I.e. Some alcoholics quit cold turkey, others need the help of a 12 step program.

It was an interesting read, I am going to pick up the book and my guess is that is exactly what this article was designed to do - sell a book.

I didnt say we don't need to continue to study science; especially biology.

I said this study and others like it are irrelevant as we are in control of the calorie density of foods we choose to eat. Many people (myself included) have higher levels of hunger than others. This doesn't take away the fact that I got fat from eating too many calories.

cmriverside

"wired" - the online source of this article, won't let me look at it unless I disable my adblocker. That's not going to happen.

I have several health issues that I could use as excuses. It's still about eating the right amount of food.

nvmomketo

My weight correlated wel with my development of chronic health problems. Inflammation = fatter, in me. I wouldn't be surprised if viruses can affect weight too.

CSARdiver

flagrantavidity wrote: »

rainbowbow wrote: »

As far as i'm concerned Stories like this along with the plethora of junk science we constantly see in the media doesn't do anything to further empower individuals to control their body weight. We don't need a hundred more studies with reasons why "it's not our fault" we need greater education on nutrition, basic biology, kinesiology, and more. Acknowledging the problem lies with our daily habits, routines, and choices is paramount in actually addressing the issue.

Skepticism and criticism is a must when it comes to health science. There are calculated dishonesties by those who sell remedies deliberately faked by unscrupulous scientists.

I whole heartedly disagree with you. We do need continued studies to understand our biology. To be so naive to believe otherwise is, quite frankly- sad. Spending money on Sciences to better understand human biological function is the optimific path.

Junk science Is an untested theory. While these assertions in this article/book are unquestionably unique, they are not untested. The results need to be examined to understand the results, a far cry from junk science.

Not everyone is looking for an excuse to walk away from a problem. Some seek understanding the root cause that might help a person to take the right road to successful results. I.e. Some alcoholics quit cold turkey, others need the help of a 12 step program.

It was an interesting read, I am going to pick up the book and my guess is that is exactly what this article was designed to do - sell a book.

Skepticism and criticism are a requirement in all scientific regards. If a study cannot withstand scrutiny it will fail the essential element of reproducibility.

Junk science is less than an untested theory - it is a tool used to push marketing/political agenda. Junk science cannot withstand scrutiny and has failed the rigors of methodology.

This is an article designed to sell to a population largely ignorant of science, quick to reject responsibility, and search endlessly for false corrections rather than address the root cause.

quiksylver296

zyxst wrote: »

Wow, I got fat because of chickens. Who knew?

Fried chicken???

CSARdiver

zyxst wrote: »

Wow, I got fat because of chickens. Who knew?

This is near blasphemy.

Broccoli did this to you...nothing good comes from broccoli.

JeromeBarry1

Please take this seriously. The SMAM-1 and Ad-36 viruses are not the only possible cause of obesity and probably not the cause of my obesity. Yet they are real and the science is clear.