Why is red meat considered bad?

upoffthemat

It is very hard for them to put red meat into their supplement packages and nutrition bars that they want to sell to you for $10 an ounce.

comptonelizabeth

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

Cutaway_Collar wrote: »

There is a difference on who eats red meat.

Usain Bolt eating red meat. Not a problem.

The cantor in Sunday mass with the cute voice and size 56 suit and pants like he ran the Phidoppedes run to Athens by the time he reaches his big Buick after mass. Him eating red meat. Big problem.

That's where red meat got the bad rap. Because the likes of Usain Bolt are a minority

dahell?

You really made me laugh!!!!

Gallowmere1984

makingmark wrote: »

It is very hard for them to put red meat into their supplement packages and nutrition bars that they want to sell to you for $10 an ounce.

Pfft, have you seen jerky prices lately?

Cylphin60

Gallowmere1984 wrote: »

makingmark wrote: »

It is very hard for them to put red meat into their supplement packages and nutrition bars that they want to sell to you for $10 an ounce.

Pfft, have you seen jerky prices lately?

I almost threw a fit yesterday at my favorite deli. $7.99 for a tiny bag. I need to start making my own.

paperpudding

VKetoV wrote: »

Seems to have been demonized as causing Colorectal & other cancers by weak statistical associations. Associations =/= causation. More vegan propaganda they try to use to "convert" people

I dont agree with this post at all.

There are documented reliable studies that show an excessive amount of processed red meat - sausage, metwurst etc - does increase your likelihood of colorectal cancers.

I do not think this is vegan propaganda at all.

However the risk is still small and it is associated with large amounts of such foods.

So I still eat red meat and sausages etc - since I only ever ate them in moderate amounts anyway and I dont have other risk factors (family history, history of polyps etc)
So I considered the risk low and not neccesary to change my diet over.

I did not however, just dismiss the findings out of hand because they didnt say what I wanted to hear.

Rocknut53

Cylphin60 wrote: »

Gallowmere1984 wrote: »

makingmark wrote: »

It is very hard for them to put red meat into their supplement packages and nutrition bars that they want to sell to you for $10 an ounce.

Pfft, have you seen jerky prices lately?

I almost threw a fit yesterday at my favorite deli. $7.99 for a tiny bag. I need to start making my own.

My husband makes all our elk jerky and summer sausage. We know exactly what goes into it and it tastes better than anything you can find at the store. Smokers and dehydrators are relatively cheap.

HappyGrape

It is linked to increased risk of colorectal cancer. Specifically processed read meat, including the preservative Sodium Nitrite, mostly used in red meat but sometimes in other processed meats too. Also burned meat as bbq'd steak - the burned bits are very cancerogenic, some say more than smoking!

But cooked dark meat as bolognese or stew is fine, and iron is very important

I have done extensive research and consulsted dietitians, as I have colon cancer running in my family and that's what I make out of the research and conversations I had. I eat red meat few times weekly, making sure there is no burned parts and avoid buying processed meat with sodium nitrite.

I love read meat, and unfortunately it's not just propaganda.

esjones12

Fantastic podcast here. They specifically talk about this question on Myth #2. You can listen to the whole thing (recommended) or just scroll down in the show notes.

http://fatburningman.com/chris-kresser-why-its-ok-to-eat-ice-cream-sometimes/

nvmomketo

paperpudding wrote: »

VKetoV wrote: »

Seems to have been demonized as causing Colorectal & other cancers by weak statistical associations. Associations =/= causation. More vegan propaganda they try to use to "convert" people

I dont agree with this post at all.

There are documented reliable studies that show an excessive amount of processed red meat - sausage, metwurst etc - does increase your likelihood of colorectal cancers.

I do not think this is vegan propaganda at all.

However the risk is still small and it is associated with large amounts of such foods.

So I still eat red meat and sausages etc - since I only ever ate them in moderate amounts anyway and I dont have other risk factors (family history, history of polyps etc)
So I considered the risk low and not neccesary to change my diet over.

I did not however, just dismiss the findings out of hand because they didnt say what I wanted to hear.

It was a study of highly processed meats and it raised your risk from 5% all the way up to 6%. Maybe.

I don't think I've dismissed it because it wasn't what I wanted to hear. I dismissed it because the possible risk increase is so slight... and the science behind it was not rock solid. Even if the science is right, I'll take that 1% risk.

HappyGrape

re Chris Kresser - he is not qualified dietitian, he sales paleo books based on promoting eating red meat, he is personal invested in interrupting the complex medical research papers in ways to promote his views, and not your health! He is not credible source for interrupting the matter, nor he is qualified to do so in my opinion


I love meat, and processed meat but unfortunately I will stick to red meat that is not processed and not burned going forward. I removed bacon from my regular shopping list, and I am not using ham in my son's sandwiches

https://youtu.be/uRqB5-egs1s

1:18 minutes re where I stand for natural healers when it comes to complex medical terms

and as per Chris bio
"Chris has been studying, practicing, and teaching alternative medicine for more than fifteen years. He did his undergraduate work at UC Berkeley, and studied Chinese and integrative medicine at the Acupuncture & Integrative Medicine College, also in Berkeley. He has trained with world-renowned healers and educators in a variety of disciplines throughout the U.S., Thailand, and Indonesia."

WatchJoshLift

I don't encourage vegans to eat meat. It means more for me.