To run or to roll?!
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Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it
you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
If you have ever trained for a marathon you would understand.
Plus, I'm not sure how being honest can be confused with rude but hey, whatever.
But whats wrong with trying? Maybe she won't make it but at least she would have tried1 -
Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
If you have ever trained for a marathon you would understand.
Plus, I'm not sure how being honest can be confused with rude but hey, whatever.
But whats wrong with trying? Maybe she won't make it but at least she would have tried
You do understand that a marathon is 26.2 miles, right? And that that isn't a distance that people just casually decide they'll go out and run one day? And that it's humongously taxing on the body even for highly trained runners?
What the OP is trying to do is akin to somebody who's been doing a lifting routine with little pink dumbbells for a couple weeks and decides they're going to enter a powerlifting competition and open with a 315 pound deadlift.
Nobody is being rude or sarcastic. They're trying to explain to the OP (unsuccessfully, it appears) that what she's proposing to do isn't feasible and could be dangerous.4 -
I have run a few halfs, and can rip off a 5 km in my sleep. I routinely run up to 10km as part of my regular training but the full marathon is a different animal completely. Even when I was younger, something happens to people when they get to that 12 km-15km range. It just hurts like crazy and you are not even half way finished yet.
I think a half marathon is a super realistic goal, and a challenging one at that.
All the power to you. I vote for a more realistic goal but wish you luck in your training. I am sure you will know well into your training if you will be able to do it or not.2 -
Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
If you have ever trained for a marathon you would understand.
Plus, I'm not sure how being honest can be confused with rude but hey, whatever.
But whats wrong with trying? Maybe she won't make it but at least she would have tried
Notwithstanding that she's probably just trolling, the reality is that training for a marathon is physically demanding, time consuming and very hard work. Many people drop out from injury, or lack of commitment.
Before running a marathon one can easily run 400-500 miles just getting to the start line. Getting a competitive time could get to 1000 miles.
Running a marathon is a fantastic experience, but not something to jump into without preparation.
Even if this is genuine, the reality is that she's far more likely to injure herself than get to the start line.3 -
Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
People aren't being sarcastic and rude...they're being realistic...you don't go from couch to marathon in 12 weeks. If you have ever trained for a long endurance event, you would understand...
This isn't a 10K we're talking about...we're talking about running 26.2 miles...people die in these kinds of events if they haven't properly trained.Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
If you have ever trained for a marathon you would understand.
Plus, I'm not sure how being honest can be confused with rude but hey, whatever.
But whats wrong with trying? Maybe she won't make it but at least she would have tried
She's overweight and untrained...and we're talking 26.2 miles of running. People can be seriously injured in this kind of thing if they haven't properly trained...you don't just go from the couch to a marathon in 12 weeks, it's extremely dangerous. A marathon isn't something that you just casually do.
Hell, I know avid runners who are well trained and compete in multiple marathons every year...they're well trained and they feel like they're going to die for like a week afterwards.4 -
I can speak to my experiences over training ( too fast too far too soon) , and the results.... currently recovering from Achilles' tendinitis.
I worry your plan is risky, a 5 is easily manageable 10 km is tough but possible , a half is realy pushing it in my opinion a full marathon is risky.
I'm all for big goals, but maybe connect with a running coach so you can get a trained opinion on this goal, limit injuries and increase chance of success ?1 -
Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
If you have ever trained for a marathon you would understand.
Plus, I'm not sure how being honest can be confused with rude but hey, whatever.
But whats wrong with trying? Maybe she won't make it but at least she would have tried
With her stats and lack of training, it is a recipe for a major injury. They're right. These injuries will put one down for a very long time. This is why proper training is absolutely crucial. I am around 40lbs overweight and I wouldn't attempt that. Hell, I am slowly working my way up to walking a half marathon before I'm going to run 5k.
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She obviously wants to do it and does not want advice. Leaver her be.2
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cerise_noir wrote: »Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
If you have ever trained for a marathon you would understand.
Plus, I'm not sure how being honest can be confused with rude but hey, whatever.
But whats wrong with trying? Maybe she won't make it but at least she would have tried
With her stats and lack of training, it is a recipe for a major injury. They're right. These injuries will put one down for a very long time. This is why proper training is absolutely crucial. I am around 40lbs overweight and I wouldn't attempt that. Hell, I am slowly working my way up to walking a half marathon before I'm going to run 5k.
I'm BMI 20 and it's still a bad idea to go from untrained to marathon in 3 months!2 -
I have stopped posting as this has turned into something I wasn't expecting, I was mere looking to connect with people also training. I appreciate the concern and also those who wished me luck.
As I said last year I did races in 10k, 10 mile and half marathon all fine within a few months of starting training. A marathon seemed like a logical step, not to mention getting caught up in the momentum.
I'm sure a marathon is a different ball game and yes I planned to start training earlier, I'm annoyed at myself I haven't. I may injure myself, as will a substantial percentage of people training, and if I do then I will be gutted to of not achieved it.
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Then all I can say is Good Luck. I'll be pulling for you.
I'll be starting my training for Pittsburgh later this month. I'll have 14 weeks to "officially" train but I'm already building my mileage back up. I took it easy for 4 weeks after my last marathon and it does take some effort to get back into it.2 -
deluxmary2000 wrote: »OP has not addressed the March/April discrepancy yet?
I was just going to point this out. I'm calling this whole thing trolling, or the OP is straight out foolish to willingly chose an event that can cause injury to the point of an inability to walk with no training. 12 weeks is not enough time to go from 0 to marathon. But to each their own. Enjoy the injury.
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chinupsforchinese wrote: »
As I said last year I did races in 10k, 10 mile and half marathon all fine within a few months of starting training.
In everyones defense, you did fail to mention the above in your original post. You stated that you couldn't remember the last time you did any jogging. People would assume that to mean it had been many years.
I will still state that 10km and 42km are very different animals though!4 -
Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
This is true. I really want to run the Chicago Marathon in May. It happens to be in October (I'm even signed up for it then), but May seems like it could be more convenient for me and I want to run a marathon then without traveling or anything (I was thinking about doing Flying Pig, but I live in Chicago), so I am going to really believe in myself and decide I truly want it, and it will happen.9 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
This is true. I really want to run the Chicago Marathon in May. It happens to be in October (I'm even signed up for it then), but May seems like it could be more convenient for me and I want to run a marathon then without traveling or anything (I was thinking about doing Flying Pig, but I live in Chicago), so I am going to really believe in myself and decide I truly want it, and it will happen.
It might happen, but there's a difference between running smart and running stupid. All the determination in the world is not going to prevent injury. Some injuries are so bad that you cannot run for months to over a year. I know because it happened to me. If that's a risk that a person is willing to take, that's on them. But it's not worth the "I told you so."
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vespiquenn wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
This is true. I really want to run the Chicago Marathon in May. It happens to be in October (I'm even signed up for it then), but May seems like it could be more convenient for me and I want to run a marathon then without traveling or anything (I was thinking about doing Flying Pig, but I live in Chicago), so I am going to really believe in myself and decide I truly want it, and it will happen.
It might happen, but there's a difference between running smart and running stupid. All the determination in the world is not going to prevent injury. Some injuries are so bad that you cannot run for months to over a year. I know because it happened to me. If that's a risk that a person is willing to take, that's on them. But it's not worth the "I told you so."
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You really should edit your original post because it's giving incorrect information. You ran several 10k races and half marathon less than a year ago. No, you haven't forgotten the last time you ran, you've been a distance runner for a while now. You'd have far more support and positive vibes from the community, especially among the avid distance runners here if you had just been forward with that information to begin with.4
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I'm quite late to this thread, but very curious about the thread as I"m training for the Virginia Beach Marathon in March.
OP, you originally posted about your current physical condition and lack of training to date. This prompted a number of responses from the endurance athletes urging caution since the training time is not adequate and that makes the likelihood of injury much higher. I should say right here that as a fairly experienced endurance guy, I agree with the concerns expressed by others.
With that said, I'm interested in your second post where you state: "I have 12 weeks, I'm going to run it. I need goals."
May I ask what type of "goals" you are hoping to uncover? Perhaps a strategy to help you finish the race, suggestions on pacing, etc? Not sure I understand your request.
Perhaps an idea of another runners plan for a March race may prove useful to you:
My training group consists of 5 seasoned runners, 3 of whom have completed the marathon distance before. All of us have completed multiple half marathons and Half Iron and/or Full Iron Distance triathlon events. We are working with a coach. Coming off two half marathon distance races in the fall, we began our marathon training with 20 weeks to go. We're currently running 5 times/week and doing 2 cross training bike trainer rides/week. We do a marathon pace run on Saturdays (9-10 miles) followed by a long slow (zone 1/2 HR) run of 17-18miles on Sunday. Our run mileage is about 40-42 miles/week at this point in our training.
From our coach's perspective, it is all about building up run miles gradually while watching for signs of stress and fatigue that could lead to injury. Her focus is ALL about safety of her athletes. In fact, one person in our group has been sick for a few days and missed several key workouts. Therefore, the coach won't let him to the full 17 mile workout this coming weekend. The reason is that the chance of injury is too high.
So, I would caution against taking the full marathon lightly. While it is not impossible for someone to complete the race without training, doing so carries a high risk of injury and therefore most experienced runners are advising against racing it.
Good luck in your training.
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chinupsforchinese wrote: »I have stopped posting as this has turned into something I wasn't expecting, I was mere looking to connect with people also training. I appreciate the concern and also those who wished me luck.
As I said last year I did races in 10k, 10 mile and half marathon all fine within a few months of starting training. A marathon seemed like a logical step, not to mention getting caught up in the momentum.
I'm sure a marathon is a different ball game and yes I planned to start training earlier, I'm annoyed at myself I haven't. I may injure myself, as will a substantial percentage of people training, and if I do then I will be gutted to of not achieved it.
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and if you'd actually said this in your original post, you would have got loads of support....3 -
unsuspectingfish wrote: »
That plan says at the bottom that one should be able to run at least a 5k before starting that plan. If not, one should do the 8 weeks to 5k program first and if you haven't done any running you should do the From Walking to Running program before that.
I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt on this one and provide her with an actual training plan that will lessen her likelihood to injure herself, since no one else is providing her anything useful.
I'm starting to remember why I quit posting in this hell hole.1 -
Why is everyone being sarcastic and rude to this girl? I admire you for having the courage to do it and for having the gutz ! I am sure you will be fine ! When you truly want something , you will find a way to make it you just have to believe in yourself ! Prove all of these people wrong
I know of someone (colleague of my mother's) who died of a cardiac arrest after completing the marathon without proper training. It can LITERALLY be deadly to run such a distance without proper training. THAT is why we are pulling up the OP on this idea. We're not being 'rude'. We are concerned.1 -
WinoGelato wrote: »This sounds like a really good way to injure yourself either before or during the event. If you were looking for cheerleaders to say "atta girl you got this" I don't think you'll get a lot here. And if you do, I don't recommend listening to them because that seems like reckless advice.
A marathon is not something you can just show up for. Is there a shorter race that same weekend that is part of the overall lineup of events? Many of the marathons here include half marathon events, 10K, 5K or fun runs.
Have you trained for a marathon? Are you a long distance runner? I don't know, but the internet seems to be full of 3 month training programmes. Sure, it is not ideal but why not shoot for the moon. If the op doesn't complete the distance then that will be a shame - but at least she gave it a shot
Jake, how many marathons have you trained for? You talk like you're a pretty experienced runner, so how realistic do you think it is to go from a zero training base to 26.2 miles in three months? If you've done it yourself, maybe you have a training program you could share with the OP and what your experiences were in completing it.
I am not a runner at all..hence not given training advice. Some are giving negative opinions with no experience so thought Id clarify that. Is it possible to start a decent running schedule without injury? Im sure it must be
The negative opinions are because the OP was clearly and obviously a bad idea! (Subsequently it was revealed the OP was rather tongue in cheek....)
You do realise that marathon running and other endurance events are not without risk?
Not just temporary injury but also serious cardiac events including death.
Last year a young army Captain died in the London Marathon.
It is overall a safe pastime but that doesn't mean people should blunder into it unprepared.
Being supportive also includes critical thought and advice.
Unthinking encouragement and support for crackpot ideas really isn't sensible.
(PS. I do endurance cycling by the way, people also die regularly during the Ride London event, doesn't stop me entering it but I do prepare/train properly.)2 -
WinoGelato wrote: »This sounds like a really good way to injure yourself either before or during the event. If you were looking for cheerleaders to say "atta girl you got this" I don't think you'll get a lot here. And if you do, I don't recommend listening to them because that seems like reckless advice.
A marathon is not something you can just show up for. Is there a shorter race that same weekend that is part of the overall lineup of events? Many of the marathons here include half marathon events, 10K, 5K or fun runs.
Have you trained for a marathon? Are you a long distance runner? I don't know, but the internet seems to be full of 3 month training programmes. Sure, it is not ideal but why not shoot for the moon. If the op doesn't complete the distance then that will be a shame - but at least she gave it a shot
Jake, how many marathons have you trained for? You talk like you're a pretty experienced runner, so how realistic do you think it is to go from a zero training base to 26.2 miles in three months? If you've done it yourself, maybe you have a training program you could share with the OP and what your experiences were in completing it.
I am not a runner at all..hence not given training advice. Some are giving negative opinions with no experience so thought Id clarify that. Is it possible to start a decent running schedule without injury? Im sure it must be
And some of the sceptics are experienced marathoners who've completed the distance, and more, multiple times.
While it's possible to get to marathon distance in 12 weeks I'd expect that would be someone who can start a training volume of 40 miles per week.2 -
unsuspectingfish wrote: »unsuspectingfish wrote: »
That plan says at the bottom that one should be able to run at least a 5k before starting that plan. If not, one should do the 8 weeks to 5k program first and if you haven't done any running you should do the From Walking to Running program before that.
I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt on this one and provide her with an actual training plan that will lessen her likelihood to injure herself, since no one else is providing her anything useful.
I'd argue that suggesting starting from scratch to marathon in 12 weeks is unwise is good advice.
I had a look at that plan. Looks ok if you really want the death march experience from mile 18.
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WinoGelato wrote: »This sounds like a really good way to injure yourself either before or during the event. If you were looking for cheerleaders to say "atta girl you got this" I don't think you'll get a lot here. And if you do, I don't recommend listening to them because that seems like reckless advice.
A marathon is not something you can just show up for. Is there a shorter race that same weekend that is part of the overall lineup of events? Many of the marathons here include half marathon events, 10K, 5K or fun runs.
Have you trained for a marathon? Are you a long distance runner? I don't know, but the internet seems to be full of 3 month training programmes. Sure, it is not ideal but why not shoot for the moon. If the op doesn't complete the distance then that will be a shame - but at least she gave it a shot
Jake, how many marathons have you trained for? You talk like you're a pretty experienced runner, so how realistic do you think it is to go from a zero training base to 26.2 miles in three months? If you've done it yourself, maybe you have a training program you could share with the OP and what your experiences were in completing it.
I am not a runner at all..hence not given training advice. Some are giving negative opinions with no experience so thought Id clarify that. Is it possible to start a decent running schedule without injury? Im sure it must be
The negative opinions are because the OP was clearly and obviously a bad idea! (Subsequently it was revealed the OP was rather tongue in cheek....)
You do realise that marathon running and other endurance events are not without risk?
Not just temporary injury but also serious cardiac events including death.
Last year a young army Captain died in the London Marathon.
It is overall a safe pastime but that doesn't mean people should blunder into it unprepared.
Being supportive also includes critical thought and advice.
Unthinking encouragement and support for crackpot ideas really isn't sensible.
(PS. I do endurance cycling by the way, people also die regularly during the Ride London event, doesn't stop me entering it but I do prepare/train properly.)
Never said she would finish the race. I know people die in endurance events, wasnt born last week. Was just giving a friendly bit of positive and trusting that at 31 the op would have enough savvy to train properly, know her limits and quit if she has to..or walk it. Way too much has been made out of this as per usual
you're missing the point though, she cant train properly for a marathon in 12 weeks.2 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »unsuspectingfish wrote: »unsuspectingfish wrote: »
That plan says at the bottom that one should be able to run at least a 5k before starting that plan. If not, one should do the 8 weeks to 5k program first and if you haven't done any running you should do the From Walking to Running program before that.
I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt on this one and provide her with an actual training plan that will lessen her likelihood to injure herself, since no one else is providing her anything useful.
I'd argue that suggesting starting from scratch to marathon in 12 weeks is unwise is good advice.
I had a look at that plan. Looks ok if you really want the death march experience from mile 18.
I was giving her the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't really starting from scratch, at least fitness-wise. As for the plan, I trust Darebee, which is why I suggested it, and this one in particular is for people who are already somewhat fit, which I was giving her the benefit of the doubt on when I suggested it (and it also tells someone who isn't fit how to proceed).
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Okay , you guys have a good point. Maybe it is not 100% safe and I should not have said anything since I am not a runner and I have never actually done a marathon
I apologize ! But my point was that no one should give up on something they truly want 1 -
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TavistockToad wrote: »chinupsforchinese wrote: »I have stopped posting as this has turned into something I wasn't expecting, I was mere looking to connect with people also training. I appreciate the concern and also those who wished me luck.
As I said last year I did races in 10k, 10 mile and half marathon all fine within a few months of starting training. A marathon seemed like a logical step, not to mention getting caught up in the momentum.
I'm sure a marathon is a different ball game and yes I planned to start training earlier, I'm annoyed at myself I haven't. I may injure myself, as will a substantial percentage of people training, and if I do then I will be gutted to of not achieved it.
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and if you'd actually said this in your original post, you would have got loads of support....
This is true.0
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