Is eating 5000 calories per day doable
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Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
All carbs turn into glucose and stored as glycogen or fat, regardless of the source. A bit semantically, carbs are less likely to convert to fat, or at least according to several overfeeding studies on DNL. But that is mainly due to carbs can suppress fat oxidation, and it's less metabolically taxing to convert fatty acids to body fat. Don't get me wrong, you should have a varied diet to ensure adequate nutrients support muscle growth, hormone balance, satiety and energy. But overall, if you are bulking, it's not very difficult to get adequate nutrients.
BTW, is this thread on getting 5k calories or contest prep. I know Dr. Layne Norton (natty), will go Keto for contest prep, and then high carb the day before to give his muscles that graining/full look. But he is a beast.4 -
Well this is a WEIGHT GAINING & BODYBUILDING thread so I am assuming the people here are into eating clean I would hope lol.....Nothing wrong or "unclean" about white rice, its all I eat when I eat rice. White rice actually digests much easier than brown rice. Nothing not clean about white rice at all.
I don't if you're aware but your op and the rest of your comments are really condescending.Commander_Keen wrote: »
Any carb whatsoever breaks down into some form of sugar in the body so yes4 -
KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
Craft beer is always acceptable.8 -
Well this is a WEIGHT GAINING & BODYBUILDING thread so I am assuming the people here are into eating clean I would hope lol.....Nothing wrong or "unclean" about white rice, its all I eat when I eat rice. White rice actually digests much easier than brown rice. Nothing not clean about white rice at all.
Arnold & co. got huge on pizza and beer, alongside their chicken and veggies. IIFYM.
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More bro, less science!5
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KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
Craft beer is always acceptable.
What's with everyone adding the word "craft" in front of beer these days?? Is this a new trendy thing? It's beer, beer is beer!0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
Craft beer is always acceptable.
What's with everyone adding the word "craft" in front of beer these days?? Is this a new trendy thing? It's beer, beer is beer!
It's a hipster thing. You're a cretin unless you drink "craft" beer.5 -
Christine_72 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
Craft beer is always acceptable.
What's with everyone adding the word "craft" in front of beer these days?? Is this a new trendy thing? It's beer, beer is beer!
Just more tasty options in the US. A couple of decades ago, all that was commonly available was a handful of lagers from AB or Miller, and they all tasted pretty much the same. If you wanted something that tasted different, you would have to go to a specialty store to find imports. Now my local grocery store looks like this:
It has probably several hundred full-flavored small brewery options, all with very unique qualities. Even tiny gas station convenience stores in the area will typically have at least a dozen locally brewed options.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
Craft beer is always acceptable.
What's with everyone adding the word "craft" in front of beer these days?? Is this a new trendy thing? It's beer, beer is beer!
Just more tasty options in the US. A couple of decades ago, all that was commonly available was a handful of lagers from AB or Miller, and they all tasted pretty much the same. If you wanted something that tasted different, you would have to go to a specialty store to find imports. Now my local grocery store looks like this:
It has probably several hundred full-flavored small brewery options, all with very unique qualities. Even tiny gas station convenience stores in the area will typically have at least a dozen locally brewed options.
Gotta love wegmans.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by @diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
Craft beer is always acceptable.
What's with everyone adding the word "craft" in front of beer these days?? Is this a new trendy thing? It's beer, beer is beer!
It's a hipster thing. You're a cretin unless you drink "craft" beer.
Nope, the hipsters are drinking PBR!
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It is doable but enjoyable would proberly stop when you get past 3000 lol good luck to you mate
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It's not a hipster thing, it's not the same to drink hum Corona, let's say that than to drink some local brewery IPA. both are fine! I just prefer the latter cos taste .0
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Christine_72 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »Here is the problem with white bread....it has SUGAR. White rice does not. I would avoid white breads if it were me. White rice is fine though
I just made several sourdough loaves with no sugar, just flour, water and salt, although I would normally add 1 tsp per 1-lb loaf. Is that clean? If so, I will add that to our definition of clean foods:
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread with 1 tsp sugar = dirty as sin
1-lb rustic boule of homemade white sourdough bread without 1 tsp of sugar = clean???
Random white rice = clean
Just so you're up to speed, here is the starter list of "clean" definitions collected by diannethegeek :
Nothing but minimally processed foods.
Absolutely no processed foods.
Shop only the outside of the grocery store.
Nothing out of a box, jar, or can.
Only food that's not in a box or hermetically sealed bag, or from e.g. McDonald's.
No take-out or junk food at all.
Nothing at all with a barcode.
Nothing with more than 5 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 4 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 3 ingredients.
Nothing with more than 1 ingredient.
No added preservatives.
No added chemicals.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. at all.
No ingredients that you can't pronounce.
No ingredients that sound like they came out of a chemistry book.
Nothing that is processed and comes in a package or wrapper, or has any ingredient that sounds scientific.
Don't eat products that have a TV commercial.
Don't eat foods that have a mascot.
If it grows or had a mother, it is ok to eat it.
Don't eat products that have a longer shelf life than you do.
Eat "food" and not "food-like substances."
No added sugar.
No added refined sugar.
Swap white sugar for brown.
No "white" foods.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Nothing but lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and beans.
A plant-based whole food diet.
Eat foods as close to their natural state as POSSIBLE, and little to no processed food.
Only meat from grass-fed animals and free-range chickens.
Only pesticide-free foods.
Nothing that causes your body bloat or inflammation.
No trigger foods, nothing from fast food chains, nothing in the junk food aisles, and no high gmo foods.
No red meat, no sweets, no pasta, no alcohol, no bread, no soda, nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, complex carbohydrates and lean proteins.
Eat a plant based diet consisting of whole plant foods.
No bad carbs and processed foods.
Anything that makes a better choice.
Not cheating on whatever diet you are on.
Any food that doesn't make it difficult to hit your macro/micro targets.
Clean eating means eating optimally.
If you have definitions to add, you can do so here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10337480/what-is-clean-eating/p1
Is craft beer out of question though? In all seriousness, it has some nutrition in it and well... I love a few now and then.
Craft beer is always acceptable.
What's with everyone adding the word "craft" in front of beer these days?? Is this a new trendy thing? It's beer, beer is beer!
It's a hipster thing. You're a cretin unless you drink "craft" beer.
Nope, the hipsters are drinking PBR!
Would you all mind clipping my tag from the quote stream here? As amusing as PBR-beard is, I'm not sure I need notifications for every post in this thread.2 -
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Oh yeah- how could I forget!
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Nice, but I will raise you something so much better.
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I'm always way too late to these insane threads.
In for sugar!0
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