Vinger and water diet

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  • marm1962
    marm1962 Posts: 950 Member
    Make sure your probiotic is designed to survive your stomach acid so it can get to the small intestine where the bacteria is useful
  • Rocknut53
    Rocknut53 Posts: 1,794 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    This is at least the 5th or 6th ACV thread I've seen since the new year. Big Vinegar is really making a push in 2017...

    Beat me to it!
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Ick. I'm not trying to sound mean, but how would that cause you to lose weight? What's the actual mechanism?
  • sugaraddict4321
    sugaraddict4321 Posts: 15,880 MFP Moderator
    I drink one tbls. every single night, then guzzle one cup of room temp water right after...

    I don't have an opinion one way or the other ACV, except to say it tastes awful. BUT - to anyone considering taking it but please be careful.

    ACV is very acidic and if you take it straight, even if you follow with a glass of water, you could still wind up with long-term mouth and throat damage. Just dilute it in that glass of water. Then drink more water, because it also can damage your tooth enamel over time.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    Reaverie wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Probiotics are a better option

    I agree and every GI specialist my wife sees would agree. And she has seen a lot over that past few years.

    I had "gut" issues and tried everything under the sun INCLUDING probiotics. Never worked. Didnt even make a dent. Found apple cider vinegar cure online and tried that. Two days later I was cured. After two years of issues, I finally had none. And it lasts for months at a time. Which is good cause OMG that is NASTY!! It said to do it every day. I got three days in and QUIT. However, if the issues start to come back, I choke down a tbs of it again and im back to being cured. So either it works and doctors dont want to admit that it does (cant make money off the healthy).. OR.. My gut is trembling in a corner in terror at the idea I will abuse it again with that vile stuff. For weight loss, that is just a ridiculous idea unless bulimia is the persons goal! Then yeah.. id say a person can lose weight vomiting up everything they just ate. But we cant cure stupid!

    There are several members who have reported that it has helped with upset stomachs and acid reflux. Others it has done the opposite and caused issues. Hell, when my stomach is upset, i drink coke.

    Like i said, if it works then great but i wouldnt suggest that it alters gut bacteria until the science can confirm such a thing. Heck, with my wifes conditions there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that there are reactions to gluten and lactose but they havent developed techiques nor methods to test gluten sensitivities current. So anecdotes is all we have current and personal testing.
  • crackpotbaby
    crackpotbaby Posts: 1,297 Member
    edited January 2017
    And if you don't want to take probiotic pills add fermented foods life Kefir.

    I do not support the drinking of vinegar but apple cider vinegar is in itself a 'fermented food' so I don't really understand this counter argument.

  • misskarne
    misskarne Posts: 1,765 Member
    Ick. I'm not trying to sound mean, but how would that cause you to lose weight? What's the actual mechanism?

    The only thing I can think of is that it makes you feel too sick to eat?
  • DietVanillaCoke
    DietVanillaCoke Posts: 259 Member
    Just have vinegar on a salad if you want to add it into your diet. Use probiotics to improve gut bacteria.
  • Sara1791
    Sara1791 Posts: 760 Member
    When I was a kid I briefly had a baby sitter who would mix a concoction with honey & acv when I had an upset stomach or wouldn't eat my lima beans. But she was an old wife. ;)
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    lizery wrote: »
    And if you don't want to take probiotic pills add fermented foods life Kefir.

    I do not support the drinking of vinegar but apple cider vinegar is in itself a 'fermented food' so I don't really understand this counter argument.

    Sorry I didn't realize that! Oops!
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    what the hell?
  • Reaverie
    Reaverie Posts: 405 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Reaverie wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Probiotics are a better option

    I agree and every GI specialist my wife sees would agree. And she has seen a lot over that past few years.

    I had "gut" issues and tried everything under the sun INCLUDING probiotics. Never worked. Didnt even make a dent. Found apple cider vinegar cure online and tried that. Two days later I was cured. After two years of issues, I finally had none. And it lasts for months at a time. Which is good cause OMG that is NASTY!! It said to do it every day. I got three days in and QUIT. However, if the issues start to come back, I choke down a tbs of it again and im back to being cured. So either it works and doctors dont want to admit that it does (cant make money off the healthy).. OR.. My gut is trembling in a corner in terror at the idea I will abuse it again with that vile stuff. For weight loss, that is just a ridiculous idea unless bulimia is the persons goal! Then yeah.. id say a person can lose weight vomiting up everything they just ate. But we cant cure stupid!

    There are several members who have reported that it has helped with upset stomachs and acid reflux. Others it has done the opposite and caused issues. Hell, when my stomach is upset, i drink coke.

    Like i said, if it works then great but i wouldnt suggest that it alters gut bacteria until the science can confirm such a thing. Heck, with my wifes conditions there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that there are reactions to gluten and lactose but they havent developed techiques nor methods to test gluten sensitivities current. So anecdotes is all we have current and personal testing.

    Mine wasn't acid reflux. Think sitting down issues at least 5 times a day. IBS?
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    Reaverie wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Reaverie wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Probiotics are a better option

    I agree and every GI specialist my wife sees would agree. And she has seen a lot over that past few years.

    I had "gut" issues and tried everything under the sun INCLUDING probiotics. Never worked. Didnt even make a dent. Found apple cider vinegar cure online and tried that. Two days later I was cured. After two years of issues, I finally had none. And it lasts for months at a time. Which is good cause OMG that is NASTY!! It said to do it every day. I got three days in and QUIT. However, if the issues start to come back, I choke down a tbs of it again and im back to being cured. So either it works and doctors dont want to admit that it does (cant make money off the healthy).. OR.. My gut is trembling in a corner in terror at the idea I will abuse it again with that vile stuff. For weight loss, that is just a ridiculous idea unless bulimia is the persons goal! Then yeah.. id say a person can lose weight vomiting up everything they just ate. But we cant cure stupid!

    There are several members who have reported that it has helped with upset stomachs and acid reflux. Others it has done the opposite and caused issues. Hell, when my stomach is upset, i drink coke.

    Like i said, if it works then great but i wouldnt suggest that it alters gut bacteria until the science can confirm such a thing. Heck, with my wifes conditions there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that there are reactions to gluten and lactose but they havent developed techiques nor methods to test gluten sensitivities current. So anecdotes is all we have current and personal testing.

    Mine wasn't acid reflux. Think sitting down issues at least 5 times a day. IBS?

    Could be a variety of things. I was just using acid reflux as one example.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    Reaverie wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Reaverie wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Probiotics are a better option

    I agree and every GI specialist my wife sees would agree. And she has seen a lot over that past few years.

    I had "gut" issues and tried everything under the sun INCLUDING probiotics. Never worked. Didnt even make a dent. Found apple cider vinegar cure online and tried that. Two days later I was cured. After two years of issues, I finally had none. And it lasts for months at a time. Which is good cause OMG that is NASTY!! It said to do it every day. I got three days in and QUIT. However, if the issues start to come back, I choke down a tbs of it again and im back to being cured. So either it works and doctors dont want to admit that it does (cant make money off the healthy).. OR.. My gut is trembling in a corner in terror at the idea I will abuse it again with that vile stuff. For weight loss, that is just a ridiculous idea unless bulimia is the persons goal! Then yeah.. id say a person can lose weight vomiting up everything they just ate. But we cant cure stupid!

    There are several members who have reported that it has helped with upset stomachs and acid reflux. Others it has done the opposite and caused issues. Hell, when my stomach is upset, i drink coke.

    Like i said, if it works then great but i wouldnt suggest that it alters gut bacteria until the science can confirm such a thing. Heck, with my wifes conditions there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that there are reactions to gluten and lactose but they havent developed techiques nor methods to test gluten sensitivities current. So anecdotes is all we have current and personal testing.

    Mine wasn't acid reflux. Think sitting down issues at least 5 times a day. IBS?

    Similar issues as me (but I have Crohn's). My GI doesn't even believe in probiotics for inflammatory bowel disease and I personally have found nothing that works in a flare (other than meds that would do nothing for IBS) and when I'm mostly stable the biggest thing I find is strict food restrictions but sometimes with Crohn's even water is a trigger food. Have you tried low fodmaps?
  • cfmfp
    cfmfp Posts: 1 Member
    People are too quick to judge.. I drink it because, like others, I find it to be beneficial. And it does not have to be gross.

    What I do is take a large glass of water (cold or room temp), place it in my blender, and I add my dose of ACV (I do 30ml), cinnamon and a bit of stevia. It tastes like apple pie :)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    The acv concoction is probably THE worst and most useless thing i have tried over the last few years. It tastes utterly revolting!!

    If you want to improve your gut bacteria, a simple probiotic capsule daily will do the job. Doing this is less traumatising and more effective than chugging down vinegar.

    Naw, you haven't had revolting until you add powdered vitamin C to it! The blackstrap molasses helps somewhat, but it's still dreadful.

    (I'm not taking it for weight loss. Have been taking it for about a month and it's had no effect on my weight.)
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    cfmfp wrote: »
    People are too quick to judge.. I drink it because, like others, I find it to be beneficial. And it does not have to be gross.

    What I do is take a large glass of water (cold or room temp), place it in my blender, and I add my dose of ACV (I do 30ml), cinnamon and a bit of stevia. It tastes like apple pie :)

    Beneficial for what?
  • CooCooPuff
    CooCooPuff Posts: 4,374 Member
    :s

    I clean daily using vinegar. How can someone actually force that stuff down?
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    CooCooPuff wrote: »
    :s

    I clean daily using vinegar. How can someone actually force that stuff down?

    It's great for descaling the kettle
  • DanLoginov
    DanLoginov Posts: 19 Member
    Manda5352 wrote: »
    Had anyone tried this I do a cup of warm water and 2 tablespoons of vinger I even tried putting honey into it . I don't think it's working and it's so gross

    It's just good for your kidney, flushes them. Apart from that, wouldn't say it has any benefits thus you don't really need to do it unless you're taking supplementation like protein and creatine.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,321 Member
    Noel_57 wrote: »
    All I ever think of with vinegar threads are pulled pork sandwiches. grrrr.

    Was just about to mention pulled pork. Allrecipes.com has a great ACV pulled pork sandwich recipe if you're interested.

    Mmmm, Pulled pork. Better yet, Pork Shoulders are on sale this week. I know what I am going to make.
  • marm1962
    marm1962 Posts: 950 Member
    CooCooPuff wrote: »
    :s

    I clean daily using vinegar. How can someone actually force that stuff down?

    because there is a difference in taste between apple cider vinegar and white vinegar.....However I am assuming you use white vinegar to clean with
  • ladyreva78
    ladyreva78 Posts: 4,080 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    CooCooPuff wrote: »
    :s

    I clean daily using vinegar. How can someone actually force that stuff down?

    It's great for descaling the kettle

    Exactly. I love how one of the famous arguments against cola is that it can eat the rust off of stuff, but ACV is health food :lol:

    Gonna keep that reference up my sleeve for the next time someone tells me my diet coke is unhealthy. :tongue:
  • AFGP11
    AFGP11 Posts: 142 Member
    I don't take that daily or as some kind of weight loss supplement, but when I have heartburn I mix a tablespoon or two of organic ACV and some water and take that to help. It works better than antacids.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Manda5352 wrote: »
    Had anyone tried this I do a cup of warm water and 2 tablespoons of vinger I even tried putting honey into it . I don't think it's working and it's so gross

    It's not working...because it is a gimmick...
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