I'm not growing for some odd reason!
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I certainly don't mean to be negative here:
I had to ask you three times the same question and the final answer I got was completely ambiguous.
The reality is that vague answers will likely get you vague recommendations and so based on what you said so far my recommendation would be to start lifting weights on a pre-designed program.
Eat enough calories to gain a couple of pounds per month.
In the future, when asking for help try to be as detailed as you can when it comes to people asking you questions in an effort to help you.
Good luck !9 -
taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »
Set your goal here to maintain, just as a baseline, and log your food. When people complain they aren't making gains it's either because they aren't eating enough or they aren't following a progressive overload plan. It could be that you need to drop the body weight stuff and go lift. It's also hard for your body to get bigger, faster, and stronger at the same time without added chemical help (the illegal kind).
Why must I have illegal chemicals?
I'm saying that you might be forced at some point to decide if you want to be bigger/stronger or faster.
I mean I do take workout supplements.
What she's saying it that bigger/stronger/faster are conflicting goals...get bigger, you're likely to get slower...stronger doesn't necessarily mean bigger, etc. Someone who puts all of that together is likely to have some "other things" going on that might not be so legal.
From what I've read so far, nothing you're doing is really geared towards putting on mass...it actually seems more like random and unfocused and much more cardiovascular oriented than anything. If you want to put on mass, get into the weight room with a solid program and lift and eat. A lot of cardio can interfere with your gains for the simple fact that more cardio = more energy expenditure = that much more you have to eat. Most people I know trying to put on mass focus first and foremost on lifting and do very little cardio...mostly some walking or a short jog.
If you're feeling fatigued, weaker, slower, etc...to me that would suggest underfeeding your activity and likely a lack of adequate rest. Fitness performance and fitness development require proper feeding as well as rest...both are pretty stinkin' important.3 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »
Set your goal here to maintain, just as a baseline, and log your food. When people complain they aren't making gains it's either because they aren't eating enough or they aren't following a progressive overload plan. It could be that you need to drop the body weight stuff and go lift. It's also hard for your body to get bigger, faster, and stronger at the same time without added chemical help (the illegal kind).
Why must I have illegal chemicals?
I'm saying that you might be forced at some point to decide if you want to be bigger/stronger or faster.
I mean I do take workout supplements.taylorblade wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »
What has your body-weight done in the past 3 months?
What kind of resistance training are you doing? Post your routine.
Okay this is how my routine looks I get up in the morning stretch and do a couple of set of push ups till I fatigue. Then I go running and jump roping I do push ups along the way. I do dips and pull ups. I do burpees and mountain climbers.
Your "workouts" are cardio based or light bodyweight exercises. To build muscle you need a calorie surplus and a progressive weight training programme. The big MMA fighters you see, lift heavy weights (and are probably on drugs).
Yes sir.taylorblade wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Your post history suggests that you have been working with a variety of concerns for a while now. Have you managed to incorporate some of the suggestions from before? Rest days, for example.
Yes kindataylorblade wrote: »RebeccaNaegle wrote: »What are your protein grams at per day? How much do you weigh? Height? How many calories are you consuming a day?
I don't really keep track of my protein intake tbh all I know is I eat a lot of things with protein. I way 171 my height is 5,8 my calories are around 2,300 to 2,500taylorblade wrote: »
Here are some of your responses above.
If you want help, you need to be willing to take the effort to put some time and thought into your responses. It's got nothing to do with being negative, I'm just not going to try and guess at how to help you. That's not beneficial to YOU.
Stop! Okay stop! I explained the best way I could. If you don't want to help then fine I don't need your help there are others willing to help.0 -
for_ever_young66 wrote: »You probably need to up your protein intake.KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »I'm a woman but I can tell you, LIFT !!!
(Sigh) yes ma'am I just need to get me some weights then.0 -
It's not that people don't want to help, it's that there's not enough information. It's like me asking how long it will take to mow my yard and only telling you it's about an average size yard and I think I have a push mower, but I'm not sure if it's self propelled or not.1
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cwolfman13 wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »
Set your goal here to maintain, just as a baseline, and log your food. When people complain they aren't making gains it's either because they aren't eating enough or they aren't following a progressive overload plan. It could be that you need to drop the body weight stuff and go lift. It's also hard for your body to get bigger, faster, and stronger at the same time without added chemical help (the illegal kind).
Why must I have illegal chemicals?
I'm saying that you might be forced at some point to decide if you want to be bigger/stronger or faster.
I mean I do take workout supplements.
What she's saying it that bigger/stronger/faster are conflicting goals...get bigger, you're likely to get slower...stronger doesn't necessarily mean bigger, etc. Someone who puts all of that together is likely to have some "other things" going on that might not be so legal.
From what I've read so far, nothing you're doing is really geared towards putting on mass...it actually seems more like random and unfocused and much more cardiovascular oriented than anything. If you want to put on mass, get into the weight room with a solid program and lift and eat. A lot of cardio can interfere with your gains for the simple fact that more cardio = more energy expenditure = that much more you have to eat. Most people I know trying to put on mass focus first and foremost on lifting and do very little cardio...mostly some walking or a short jog.
If you're feeling fatigued, weaker, slower, etc...to me that would suggest underfeeding your activity and likely a lack of adequate rest. Fitness performance and fitness development require proper feeding as well as rest...both are pretty stinkin' important.
I understand.0 -
taylorblade wrote: »_incogNEATo_ wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »
Set your goal here to maintain, just as a baseline, and log your food. When people complain they aren't making gains it's either because they aren't eating enough or they aren't following a progressive overload plan. It could be that you need to drop the body weight stuff and go lift. It's also hard for your body to get bigger, faster, and stronger at the same time without added chemical help (the illegal kind).
Why must I have illegal chemicals?
I'm saying that you might be forced at some point to decide if you want to be bigger/stronger or faster.
I mean I do take workout supplements.taylorblade wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »
What has your body-weight done in the past 3 months?
What kind of resistance training are you doing? Post your routine.
Okay this is how my routine looks I get up in the morning stretch and do a couple of set of push ups till I fatigue. Then I go running and jump roping I do push ups along the way. I do dips and pull ups. I do burpees and mountain climbers.
Your "workouts" are cardio based or light bodyweight exercises. To build muscle you need a calorie surplus and a progressive weight training programme. The big MMA fighters you see, lift heavy weights (and are probably on drugs).
Yes sir.taylorblade wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Your post history suggests that you have been working with a variety of concerns for a while now. Have you managed to incorporate some of the suggestions from before? Rest days, for example.
Yes kindataylorblade wrote: »RebeccaNaegle wrote: »What are your protein grams at per day? How much do you weigh? Height? How many calories are you consuming a day?
I don't really keep track of my protein intake tbh all I know is I eat a lot of things with protein. I way 171 my height is 5,8 my calories are around 2,300 to 2,500taylorblade wrote: »
Here are some of your responses above.
If you want help, you need to be willing to take the effort to put some time and thought into your responses. It's got nothing to do with being negative, I'm just not going to try and guess at how to help you. That's not beneficial to YOU.
Stop! Okay stop! I explained the best way I could. If you don't want to help then fine I don't need your help there are others willing to help.
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Short answer - you're not eating enough!
Basically its calories in vs calories out.
If you're expending more than you're consuming then you will lose weight. (DEFICIT)
If you're expending the same as you're consuming then you will maintain weight. (MAINTENANCE)
If you're expending less than you're consuming then you will gain weight (SURPLUS) (if this is a moderate surplus and adequate protein is consumed fat gain should be minimal and majority of weight will be muscle mass)
Good luck!
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Without knowing how much you are eating and what your TDEE is, there is no way anyone can offer you specific advice. We can say "eat more" which is generally correct, but we need to know specifically what your history is, what your workout plan looks like, and what you are putting into your body to give you any better advice. Here is what I would suggest.
- Start using MFP to track your calorie and protein intake. Record everything you eat and the exact weight.
- Weigh yourself once a week at the same time of day on the sxame scale. No more than that.
- Define your fitness goals exactly. Do you want to gain muscle? If so, cut back on the cardio and start lifting heavy weights. Your routine now appears to be entirely cardio and bodyweight exercises. You can lean up with that routine but not gain much muscle at all.
- Do all this for three months without fail. Take pictures once a week. Track your progress and refine your plan as necessary
There aren't any shortcuts. You have to know what your goal is and make a plan to attain it. Your goals right now are either non-existent or not defined well enough to know if you are making progress.
Hope this helps.2 -
Rule of thumb: weight lifters who aspire to have gains are supposed to consume 2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day. For example, if you are 170 lbs, that would put you at about 77 Kg. 77 times 2 is 154. If you are consuming considerably less than this amount, you won't see a whole lot of gains.0
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What's ur nutrition like? Look at ur macros r u getting adequate protein?1
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taylorblade wrote: »Okay I do mixed martial arts and I been working out for 4 years Now I do a lot of bodyweight training and cardio despite all of that I'm still weak and my bodies strength just wont grow my muscles won't grow I do a lot if weighted push ups and dips and alot of modified workouts to get stronger but for some odd reason my body won't heal or get stronger or grow. I sprint and run a lot but it seems like I get slower and slower. Also I have medical conditions like blood disorders and other things. I workout more then anyone in my neighborhood or anyone around me because where I live people don't really workout at all but yet they are still stronger then me. Please can someone explain what's going on with my body and why it won't grow or get stronger and build more mass? Thank you!
Eat more...and if you aren't gaining size/weight...guess what?
EAT MORE!
Need the right amount of calories to fuel you for all your activities. Eat more than you burn daily, you'll gain. Eat less than energy expended, you'll lose. You got this!1 -
Reading through all of your responses it is extremely vague. Here is a vivid look at my lifting and diet plan:
Average 3600-3900 calories daily depending on how strenuous my work day was
+180g protein
+110g fats
The rest are carbs which will vary depending on my other macros
Lifting Is:
Week 1 day 1: upper body power
Bench press 3x5 final set AMRAP
Weight is 65%, 75%, 85% of calculated 1rm.
Overhead press(repeat of above) pendlay row. Working towards increasing reps then weight. I don't track weight, just generally aim for 6-8 reps with explosive pulls off the ground
Pull ups 3x8
Incline press 3x6-10(focus on slow controlled reps)
Barbell pull overs 3x10
Tricep bench 4x10
Reverse curls 4x12
(Weight increases on all movements weekly until 4th week which is deload, I then focus on lighter weights and greasing the grove of my lifts.
Day 2 lower body power. Same rep percentage scheme a upper body power for my squats and deadlifts.
Along with accessory movements.
Day 3 rest
Day 4 chest/arms hypertrophy
Bench press 4x12
Incline press 4x12 compounded with dumbbell flies
Lower cable flies 4x12-20
Then 3 workouts of 4 sets of triceps same for biceps and forearms
Day 5 legs hypertrophy. Similar to day 2 just swapped out accessories and squats for front squats with higher reps
Day 6 back and shoulders hypertrophy.
I think I've gone into enough detail to explain what the difference to vague and vivid are. My true program is much more in depth from week to week. With pause reps, drop sets, working past failure. Stopping before failure. My program is a modified version of PHAT due to fact that I'm an Un enhanced lifter so I can't handle the full volume of that program. I then use wendler 5/3/1 for all of my compound lifts since I am interested in competing in both natural body building and hopefully powerlifting one day. You have to understand the difference between guessing your diet and doing the odd bodyweight movements compared to a diet that you set out for yourself with set macros and a true lifting programs with reps, sets, and percentages. Someone looking at my post would have a much better idea of what I'm doing compared to you and what my goals are. Only after you have all of that should even consider a "workout supplement" which in itself is extremely vague.
I myself take pre workout
9g of citrulline malate
4g taurine
10g BCAAs
200mg caffeine
Post workout
60g whey protein
5g creatine monohydrate
With a multi vitamin in the morning and Zma right before bed.1 -
You are clearly highly motivated. That's an excellent start. It looks like you just need to shift from your current fitness-oriented training to more strength-oriented training. The best way forward might be to hire a trainer, at least for a little while, to help you design a program oriented toward your specific goals.
The people above really are trying to help, by the way. In any case, good luck achieving your goals. Given your motivation, I have no doubt that you will get there.0 -
taylorblade wrote: »I do eat a lot but I don't know if its enough.taylorblade wrote: »I mean I do take workout supplements.
your brain gets better at activating the muscle you already have, so you can 'gain' some strength in tha tway. but after four years you've probably got that covered. afaik if you want to actually create new muscle tissue and cells, then your body needs protein to create it. so even if you're eating 'a lot' you might not be eating foods that contain what you need for that goal. i'm not going to guess how much protein would make sense for your age and current body composition, but the information is out there if you google for it.taylorblade wrote: »where I live people don't really workout at all but yet they are still stronger then me.
remember to cut yourself a little slack for whatever 'disorder' you have. it probably doesn't prevent you from getting strong with a steady lifting programme and enough protein, but imo comparing yourself to people who don't have health issues just leads to discouragement. and confusion
what works for a 'normal' person might not be as effective for you.
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Talk to your doctor(s) about how your various medical issues are impacting you physically and whether the amount, type of exercise is appropriate for someone with these medical issues.
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canadianlbs wrote: »taylorblade wrote: »I do eat a lot but I don't know if its enough.taylorblade wrote: »I mean I do take workout supplements.
your brain gets better at activating the muscle you already have, so you can 'gain' some strength in tha tway. but after four years you've probably got that covered. afaik if you want to actually create new muscle tissue and cells, then your body needs protein to create it. so even if you're eating 'a lot' you might not be eating foods that contain what you need for that goal. i'm not going to guess how much protein would make sense for your age and current body composition, but the information is out there if you google for it.taylorblade wrote: »where I live people don't really workout at all but yet they are still stronger then me.
remember to cut yourself a little slack for whatever 'disorder' you have. it probably doesn't prevent you from getting strong with a steady lifting programme and enough protein, but imo comparing yourself to people who don't have health issues just leads to discouragement. and confusion what works for a 'normal' person might not be as effective for you.
Comparing yourself to anyone else that you view as better, for any reason, is a good way to end up disappointed.1 -
Every time this thread pops up I read the title as "I'm not growing old for some reason."1
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Martial arts, cardio and body weight exercises aren't going to make you grow. Lift heavy weights and eat more.0
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Too much cardio will burn your muscles
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skinnyinnotime wrote: »Too much cardio will burn your muscles
Um how exactly would that happen? A calorie deficit and lack of stimulation will cause atrophy. But as long as you're providing sufficient stimulus, calories, protein, and rest. Cardio would only aid in recovery.
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The only way is if it's enough cardio to throw you into a deficit. Like if you're eating 500 above maintenance and he ends up burning 1000 calories from the martial arts training and cardio, then you're at a deficit of 500 plus he isn't lifting.0
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