I'm not growing for some odd reason!

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  • Posts: 41,865 Member

    I mean I do take workout supplements.

    What she's saying it that bigger/stronger/faster are conflicting goals...get bigger, you're likely to get slower...stronger doesn't necessarily mean bigger, etc. Someone who puts all of that together is likely to have some "other things" going on that might not be so legal.

    From what I've read so far, nothing you're doing is really geared towards putting on mass...it actually seems more like random and unfocused and much more cardiovascular oriented than anything. If you want to put on mass, get into the weight room with a solid program and lift and eat. A lot of cardio can interfere with your gains for the simple fact that more cardio = more energy expenditure = that much more you have to eat. Most people I know trying to put on mass focus first and foremost on lifting and do very little cardio...mostly some walking or a short jog.

    If you're feeling fatigued, weaker, slower, etc...to me that would suggest underfeeding your activity and likely a lack of adequate rest. Fitness performance and fitness development require proper feeding as well as rest...both are pretty stinkin' important.
  • Posts: 261 Member

    Here are some of your responses above.

    If you want help, you need to be willing to take the effort to put some time and thought into your responses. It's got nothing to do with being negative, I'm just not going to try and guess at how to help you. That's not beneficial to YOU.

    Stop! Okay stop! I explained the best way I could. If you don't want to help then fine I don't need your help there are others willing to help.
  • Posts: 261 Member
    You probably need to up your protein intake.
    I'm a woman but I can tell you, LIFT !!!

    (Sigh) yes ma'am I just need to get me some weights then.
  • Posts: 21,219 Member
    It's not that people don't want to help, it's that there's not enough information. It's like me asking how long it will take to mow my yard and only telling you it's about an average size yard and I think I have a push mower, but I'm not sure if it's self propelled or not.
  • Posts: 261 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »

    What she's saying it that bigger/stronger/faster are conflicting goals...get bigger, you're likely to get slower...stronger doesn't necessarily mean bigger, etc. Someone who puts all of that together is likely to have some "other things" going on that might not be so legal.

    From what I've read so far, nothing you're doing is really geared towards putting on mass...it actually seems more like random and unfocused and much more cardiovascular oriented than anything. If you want to put on mass, get into the weight room with a solid program and lift and eat. A lot of cardio can interfere with your gains for the simple fact that more cardio = more energy expenditure = that much more you have to eat. Most people I know trying to put on mass focus first and foremost on lifting and do very little cardio...mostly some walking or a short jog.

    If you're feeling fatigued, weaker, slower, etc...to me that would suggest underfeeding your activity and likely a lack of adequate rest. Fitness performance and fitness development require proper feeding as well as rest...both are pretty stinkin' important.

    I understand.
  • Posts: 4,537 Member

    Stop! Okay stop! I explained the best way I could. If you don't want to help then fine I don't need your help there are others willing to help.

    k
  • Posts: 8 Member
    Short answer - you're not eating enough!

    Basically its calories in vs calories out.

    If you're expending more than you're consuming then you will lose weight. (DEFICIT)
    If you're expending the same as you're consuming then you will maintain weight. (MAINTENANCE)
    If you're expending less than you're consuming then you will gain weight (SURPLUS) (if this is a moderate surplus and adequate protein is consumed fat gain should be minimal and majority of weight will be muscle mass)

    Good luck!
  • Posts: 342 Member
    Without knowing how much you are eating and what your TDEE is, there is no way anyone can offer you specific advice. We can say "eat more" which is generally correct, but we need to know specifically what your history is, what your workout plan looks like, and what you are putting into your body to give you any better advice. Here is what I would suggest.
    1. Start using MFP to track your calorie and protein intake. Record everything you eat and the exact weight.
    2. Weigh yourself once a week at the same time of day on the sxame scale. No more than that.
    3. Define your fitness goals exactly. Do you want to gain muscle? If so, cut back on the cardio and start lifting heavy weights. Your routine now appears to be entirely cardio and bodyweight exercises. You can lean up with that routine but not gain much muscle at all.
    4. Do all this for three months without fail. Take pictures once a week. Track your progress and refine your plan as necessary

    There aren't any shortcuts. You have to know what your goal is and make a plan to attain it. Your goals right now are either non-existent or not defined well enough to know if you are making progress.

    Hope this helps.
  • Posts: 2,877 Member
    edited January 2017
    Rule of thumb: weight lifters who aspire to have gains are supposed to consume 2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day. For example, if you are 170 lbs, that would put you at about 77 Kg. 77 times 2 is 154. If you are consuming considerably less than this amount, you won't see a whole lot of gains.
  • Posts: 167 Member
    What's ur nutrition like? Look at ur macros r u getting adequate protein?
  • Posts: 185 Member
    Okay I do mixed martial arts and I been working out for 4 years Now I do a lot of bodyweight training and cardio despite all of that I'm still weak and my bodies strength just wont grow my muscles won't grow I do a lot if weighted push ups and dips and alot of modified workouts to get stronger but for some odd reason my body won't heal or get stronger or grow. I sprint and run a lot but it seems like I get slower and slower. Also I have medical conditions like blood disorders and other things. I workout more then anyone in my neighborhood or anyone around me because where I live people don't really workout at all but yet they are still stronger then me. Please can someone explain what's going on with my body and why it won't grow or get stronger and build more mass? Thank you!

    Eat more...and if you aren't gaining size/weight...guess what?
    EAT MORE!
    Need the right amount of calories to fuel you for all your activities. Eat more than you burn daily, you'll gain. Eat less than energy expended, you'll lose. You got this!
  • Posts: 2,272 Member
    edited January 2017
    Reading through all of your responses it is extremely vague. Here is a vivid look at my lifting and diet plan:

    Average 3600-3900 calories daily depending on how strenuous my work day was
    +180g protein
    +110g fats
    The rest are carbs which will vary depending on my other macros

    Lifting Is:
    Week 1 day 1: upper body power
    Bench press 3x5 final set AMRAP
    Weight is 65%, 75%, 85% of calculated 1rm.
    Overhead press(repeat of above) pendlay row. Working towards increasing reps then weight. I don't track weight, just generally aim for 6-8 reps with explosive pulls off the ground
    Pull ups 3x8
    Incline press 3x6-10(focus on slow controlled reps)
    Barbell pull overs 3x10
    Tricep bench 4x10
    Reverse curls 4x12
    (Weight increases on all movements weekly until 4th week which is deload, I then focus on lighter weights and greasing the grove of my lifts.

    Day 2 lower body power. Same rep percentage scheme a upper body power for my squats and deadlifts.
    Along with accessory movements.

    Day 3 rest

    Day 4 chest/arms hypertrophy

    Bench press 4x12
    Incline press 4x12 compounded with dumbbell flies
    Lower cable flies 4x12-20

    Then 3 workouts of 4 sets of triceps same for biceps and forearms

    Day 5 legs hypertrophy. Similar to day 2 just swapped out accessories and squats for front squats with higher reps

    Day 6 back and shoulders hypertrophy.


    I think I've gone into enough detail to explain what the difference to vague and vivid are. My true program is much more in depth from week to week. With pause reps, drop sets, working past failure. Stopping before failure. My program is a modified version of PHAT due to fact that I'm an Un enhanced lifter so I can't handle the full volume of that program. I then use wendler 5/3/1 for all of my compound lifts since I am interested in competing in both natural body building and hopefully powerlifting one day. You have to understand the difference between guessing your diet and doing the odd bodyweight movements compared to a diet that you set out for yourself with set macros and a true lifting programs with reps, sets, and percentages. Someone looking at my post would have a much better idea of what I'm doing compared to you and what my goals are. Only after you have all of that should even consider a "workout supplement" which in itself is extremely vague.
    I myself take pre workout
    9g of citrulline malate
    4g taurine
    10g BCAAs
    200mg caffeine
    Post workout
    60g whey protein
    5g creatine monohydrate

    With a multi vitamin in the morning and Zma right before bed.
  • Posts: 403 Member
    You are clearly highly motivated. That's an excellent start. It looks like you just need to shift from your current fitness-oriented training to more strength-oriented training. The best way forward might be to hire a trainer, at least for a little while, to help you design a program oriented toward your specific goals.

    The people above really are trying to help, by the way. In any case, good luck achieving your goals. Given your motivation, I have no doubt that you will get there.
  • Posts: 5,199 Member
    I do eat a lot but I don't know if its enough.
    I mean I do take workout supplements.

    your brain gets better at activating the muscle you already have, so you can 'gain' some strength in tha tway. but after four years you've probably got that covered. afaik if you want to actually create new muscle tissue and cells, then your body needs protein to create it. so even if you're eating 'a lot' you might not be eating foods that contain what you need for that goal. i'm not going to guess how much protein would make sense for your age and current body composition, but the information is out there if you google for it.
    where I live people don't really workout at all but yet they are still stronger then me.

    remember to cut yourself a little slack for whatever 'disorder' you have. it probably doesn't prevent you from getting strong with a steady lifting programme and enough protein, but imo comparing yourself to people who don't have health issues just leads to discouragement. and confusion :wink: what works for a 'normal' person might not be as effective for you.

  • Posts: 1,297 Member
    Talk to your doctor(s) about how your various medical issues are impacting you physically and whether the amount, type of exercise is appropriate for someone with these medical issues.

  • Posts: 6,626 Member

    your brain gets better at activating the muscle you already have, so you can 'gain' some strength in tha tway. but after four years you've probably got that covered. afaik if you want to actually create new muscle tissue and cells, then your body needs protein to create it. so even if you're eating 'a lot' you might not be eating foods that contain what you need for that goal. i'm not going to guess how much protein would make sense for your age and current body composition, but the information is out there if you google for it.

    remember to cut yourself a little slack for whatever 'disorder' you have. it probably doesn't prevent you from getting strong with a steady lifting programme and enough protein, but imo comparing yourself to people who don't have health issues just leads to discouragement. and confusion :wink: what works for a 'normal' person might not be as effective for you.

    Comparing yourself to anyone else that you view as better, for any reason, is a good way to end up disappointed.
  • Posts: 14,260 Member
    Every time this thread pops up I read the title as "I'm not growing old for some reason."
  • Posts: 127 Member
    Martial arts, cardio and body weight exercises aren't going to make you grow. Lift heavy weights and eat more.
  • Posts: 4,078 Member
    Too much cardio will burn your muscles
  • Posts: 2,272 Member
    Too much cardio will burn your muscles

    Um how exactly would that happen? A calorie deficit and lack of stimulation will cause atrophy. But as long as you're providing sufficient stimulus, calories, protein, and rest. Cardio would only aid in recovery.
  • Posts: 127 Member
    The only way is if it's enough cardio to throw you into a deficit. Like if you're eating 500 above maintenance and he ends up burning 1000 calories from the martial arts training and cardio, then you're at a deficit of 500 plus he isn't lifting.
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