Ifeel like I'm in a perpetual pissy mood

icemom011
icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
edited November 15 in Health and Weight Loss
So for the last few months I've been in this state of constant irritation. I'm 45 yo, so not sure if it's weight loss related or premenopausal. At this point, my attitude is getting on rhe last nerve of my loved ones. I feel that every little thing annoys me, I'm snapping at my family for the smallest things. My mom thinks that my nerves have gone to sh**s, I'm really feed up with myself. I can't seem to control it, it doesn't help that i can't hide my emotions at all, you can see it instantly on my face. So now, that my emotions are so negative, imagine how it looks to others. Sigh.. I've lost about 70lbs since February, in maintenance for the last two months. So does anyone experience something similar and how do i change this? All talks to myself and promises not to overreact don't work, or work once out of ten times. That's clearly not good enough. I eat well, healthy, my last phisical turned out good results, so what's happening and most importantly, how do i fix this? Thank you in advance
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  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    My sleep is not so good, i stay up late, so i get maybe 6 hours or less on average. I know it's bad, but still haven't improved on it.
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,185 Member
    I'm 48 and having the same problems. I think it is premenopause related hormones. I'm hoping it gets better soon. I have also lost about 70 pounds and am now in maintenance. I try to have a good attitude most of the time, but there are days when I am very irritable. I have been doing yoga and it does seem to help a little.
  • marm1962
    marm1962 Posts: 950 Member
    You can always have your doctor check your hormone levels to see if you are perimenopausal or not. Different life factors dictate how early you start, I started when I was 35 and I was postmenopausal at 51 (I am 54). Everyone has different symptoms, different levels of crabbiness, and sleep is definitely affected
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    OK guys, I'm 62 and finally coming out of menopause--it lasted 8 yrs. When I was just starting I had the same problem. I was nervous, and snapping at everyone. I felt out of control of myself. I live in Italy and read an article one day about a doctor researching melatonin. He said it could really help with menopausal problems such as irritability. I was desperate and thought "What the hell, why not". I started taking 3g of melatonin 1/2 hour before going to bed. I was astounded at how well it worked. After I finished a bottle, I didn't buy another and I was right back to "mean". So, I've been taking it ever since, and I won't give it up.

    Thank you. Awesome that it worked for you. I'm a little reluctant to take hormones though. Did you have any side effects? @snowflake954
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    marm1962 wrote: »
    You can always have your doctor check your hormone levels to see if you are perimenopausal or not. Different life factors dictate how early you start, I started when I was 35 and I was postmenopausal at 51 (I am 54). Everyone has different symptoms, different levels of crabbiness, and sleep is definitely affected

    I think i will ask for the hormone levels check. I have new insurance and a new doctor, and an upcoming appointment in a couple of weeks. Hope it's something covered by the insurance at least. I've been having some symptoms that are a little out of norm, but my periods still regular. Gotta work on my sleep for sure.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    I can't begin to guess if you're peri, pre ormenopausal but extra fat carries a load of extra estrogen so losing 70 lbs can make a huge difference. You may be feeling the effects of the drop in estrogen with the weight loss.

    Congrats on the incredible loss, great job on working toward better health!! @icemom011
    arobey11 wrote: »
    How's your sleep? I was having similar issues for a while until I really started focusing on the quality and amount of the sleep I was getting. Exercise helped, plus I meditate before bed, and I also received this aromatherapy oil diffuser thing for Christmas that I find totally amazing (you put essential oils and water inside, turn it on, and it creates this fragrant mist that humidifies while also making your bedroom smell wonderful - now I don't wake up with a dry/sore throat in the middle of the night and it's nice to pick a scent to fall asleep to).
    @arobey11

    This was absolutely life changing for me when I picked one up. Started using lavender essential oil with my diffuser, Eucalyptus when I wanted to breathe better when i was ill and my favorite now is Peppermint. I also love orange to smell out of the bottle as it's such an uplifting scent. It helps to calm, decrease depression, anxiety. The lavender is calming, the peppermint serves that purpose but also makes you alert but is great at bedtime too. Though I've started craving York Peppermint Patties recently. :laugh:

    @hearts_2015 Thank you, so will the estrogen level off after some time?
  • KrisJ125
    KrisJ125 Posts: 93 Member
    If it's perimenopause (which sounds likely) your hormonal imbalance is probably to blame. Try having soy protein or soy milk each day. I replaced cows milk with organic soy milk and made sure I got a cup per day--the plant estrogens in it can help with all the perimenopause symptoms.
  • lauracups
    lauracups Posts: 533 Member
    Sounds like hormones might be a factor, definitely see the Dr for the blood work. At 47 and 60 lost, and STRUGGLING with losing gaining last 10-15 my mood level is fire breathing dragon. Yes supplements can help, but you gotta find your "happy place ". For me that's a 5-8 mile hike, clears the head . Find your activity that gives you that zen feeling, sounds corny but it works. Good luck!
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    icemom011 wrote: »
    OK guys, I'm 62 and finally coming out of menopause--it lasted 8 yrs. When I was just starting I had the same problem. I was nervous, and snapping at everyone. I felt out of control of myself. I live in Italy and read an article one day about a doctor researching melatonin. He said it could really help with menopausal problems such as irritability. I was desperate and thought "What the hell, why not". I started taking 3g of melatonin 1/2 hour before going to bed. I was astounded at how well it worked. After I finished a bottle, I didn't buy another and I was right back to "mean". So, I've been taking it ever since, and I won't give it up.

    Thank you. Awesome that it worked for you. I'm a little reluctant to take hormones though. Did you have any side effects? @snowflake954

    Melatonin isn't a hormone--my gyn forbid hormones. Research it. People use it often to regularate their sleep cycles. That's what it's known for, but it does alot more. It's something we produce naturally until about 25 yrs, then start to slack off. For me it was a lifesaver.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    lizery wrote: »
    icemom011 wrote: »
    OK guys, I'm 62 and finally coming out of menopause--it lasted 8 yrs. When I was just starting I had the same problem. I was nervous, and snapping at everyone. I felt out of control of myself. I live in Italy and read an article one day about a doctor researching melatonin. He said it could really help with menopausal problems such as irritability. I was desperate and thought "What the hell, why not". I started taking 3g of melatonin 1/2 hour before going to bed. I was astounded at how well it worked. After I finished a bottle, I didn't buy another and I was right back to "mean". So, I've been taking it ever since, and I won't give it up.

    Thank you. Awesome that it worked for you. I'm a little reluctant to take hormones though. Did you have any side effects? @snowflake954

    Melatonin isn't a hormone--my gyn forbid hormones. Research it. People use it often to regularate their sleep cycles. That's what it's known for, but it does alot more. It's something we produce naturally until about 25 yrs, then start to slack off. For me it was a lifesaver.

    Melatonin is a hormone made in the pineal gland in the brain.


    Sorry--my bad. My gynecologist told me to take it (but I was already), since she personally knew the doctor doing the research. We discussed it at length. She takes it too. She refused to let me do hormone treatments (this in the day that they were all the rage in the States). A little while after, the research came out on them, and I was glad she had taken that stance. OP-check into it yourself.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    @snowflake954 , I will, in fact i did some. It has a long list of issues it can help with, including menopausal ones.
    are you hangry? being in maintenance might help? how much fat do you eat - too little can affect hormones?
    Well, why, of course i do. I get hangry when I'm hungry. Like a total mean jerk. But that's usually before dinner, and especially if we are running late with it, or i thought that it would be ready and it's not or taking longer. Sigh. Not my proud moments... but I'm in maintenance, and i eat usually when hungry, i have been even incorporating a snack before dinner, so i don't become that person. This is something i know about myself for a long time though, even in my teens i would get hangry. It's worse, i think.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    lizery wrote: »
    icemom011 wrote: »
    OK guys, I'm 62 and finally coming out of menopause--it lasted 8 yrs. When I was just starting I had the same problem. I was nervous, and snapping at everyone. I felt out of control of myself. I live in Italy and read an article one day about a doctor researching melatonin. He said it could really help with menopausal problems such as irritability. I was desperate and thought "What the hell, why not". I started taking 3g of melatonin 1/2 hour before going to bed. I was astounded at how well it worked. After I finished a bottle, I didn't buy another and I was right back to "mean". So, I've been taking it ever since, and I won't give it up.

    Thank you. Awesome that it worked for you. I'm a little reluctant to take hormones though. Did you have any side effects? @snowflake954

    Melatonin isn't a hormone--my gyn forbid hormones. Research it. People use it often to regularate their sleep cycles. That's what it's known for, but it does alot more. It's something we produce naturally until about 25 yrs, then start to slack off. For me it was a lifesaver.

    Melatonin is a hormone made in the pineal gland in the brain.


    Sorry--my bad. My gynecologist told me to take it (but I was already), since she personally knew the doctor doing the research. We discussed it at length. She takes it too. She refused to let me do hormone treatments (this in the day that they were all the rage in the States). A little while after, the research came out on them, and I was glad she had taken that stance. OP-check into it yourself.

    I wish the article I have was in English. It was so interesting and came out about 10 yrs ago. Alot of women got their peiods back for a while after taking it. I just wanted to solve the "nervousness issue" and it worked--for me. The researchers name is Dr Pierpaoli, if I remember right. If you do decide to try, let me know how it goes--I'm just curious. I did tell some friends years back and they had good results too.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    lizery wrote: »
    icemom011 wrote: »
    OK guys, I'm 62 and finally coming out of menopause--it lasted 8 yrs. When I was just starting I had the same problem. I was nervous, and snapping at everyone. I felt out of control of myself. I live in Italy and read an article one day about a doctor researching melatonin. He said it could really help with menopausal problems such as irritability. I was desperate and thought "What the hell, why not". I started taking 3g of melatonin 1/2 hour before going to bed. I was astounded at how well it worked. After I finished a bottle, I didn't buy another and I was right back to "mean". So, I've been taking it ever since, and I won't give it up.

    Thank you. Awesome that it worked for you. I'm a little reluctant to take hormones though. Did you have any side effects? @snowflake954

    Melatonin isn't a hormone--my gyn forbid hormones. Research it. People use it often to regularate their sleep cycles. That's what it's known for, but it does alot more. It's something we produce naturally until about 25 yrs, then start to slack off. For me it was a lifesaver.

    Melatonin is a hormone made in the pineal gland in the brain.


    Sorry--my bad. My gynecologist told me to take it (but I was already), since she personally knew the doctor doing the research. We discussed it at length. She takes it too. She refused to let me do hormone treatments (this in the day that they were all the rage in the States). A little while after, the research came out on them, and I was glad she had taken that stance. OP-check into it yourself.

    I wish the article I have was in English. It was so interesting and came out about 10 yrs ago. Alot of women got their peiods back for a while after taking it. I just wanted to solve the "nervousness issue" and it worked--for me. The researchers name is Dr Pierpaoli, if I remember right. If you do decide to try, let me know how it goes--I'm just curious. I did tell some friends years back and they had good results too.
    I will, although i wish nervousness was my issue, well not really, of course. But I'm too impatient, irritable, not my normal calm, cool, laid back self
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    So should i talk to my wife that my mood swings and irritability are possibly hormonal and i have very little control over it right now and I'm not just mean and b**tchy because she did something wrong. It's causing problems already, and I'm seriously worried. Or i should wait and try to do hormone levels check to confirm first that it's actually my hormones that gone whacky? Opinions?
  • crackpotbaby
    crackpotbaby Posts: 1,297 Member
    icemom011 wrote: »
    So should i talk to my wife that my mood swings and irritability are possibly hormonal and i have very little control over it right now and I'm not just mean and b**tchy because she did something wrong. It's causing problems already, and I'm seriously worried. Or i should wait and try to do hormone levels check to confirm first that it's actually my hormones that gone whacky? Opinions? [/quote
    ]

    Why not tell her how you're feeling ... reassure her it's not her (unless maybe it IS relationship strain).

    Personally, I'd tell her the symptoms not wait for an answer why. Hormonal imbalance is just one cause of irritability.

    Surely your wife cares how you are feeling not just about why.
  • cebreisch
    cebreisch Posts: 1,340 Member
    It could be a few things in combination. My bet would be menopause - I'm already taking hormones for that, and I just turned 50 last year.

    The other thing could be: I remember when I started seeing a therapist, he asked me if now that I was losing weight and dealing with the emotions, if things really aggravated me more so than ever before. YES!!! Things that never seemed to bother me enough to say anything were now big deals enough to almost be pet peeves. LOL. And apparently, the looks I would give were priceless. I was talking to a friend about someone who had been whining to me about something and said, "OMG - Boo-f&cking-hoo!!" And she busted a gut laughing. Apparently, I was in rare form that night.

    I'd call the obgyn to see if your hormones should be checked.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    quote="Psychgrrl;38716934"]Maybe get some coping skills in order, if you haven't already. When you get stressed/hormonal/hangry/pissed off you need a way to channel that energy.

    I work with my students on this: walking, running, working out, listening to music, watching a favorite tv show/movie, gardening, reading, whatever. Find a positive way to redirect yourself. Or, at least, something that's less negative.

    I would say, in spite of your hormones or whatever, you do have control over how you treat others. To tell your partner you can't help yourself is disrespectful to her and to you.

    "Yoga, because punching people gets you arrested." [/quote]
    I agree, it sounds like I'm making an excuse for my not so appropriate behavior. That's not the goal though, i would love to get a handle on it. All those things you've mentioned, they helps. I ride bike, go for a long walk when I'm extremely frustrated, i garden, etc. But do you have any tips for getting it under control in a shorter time, all those activities are time consuming and there's not always a possibility of walking away from the situation or a person, plus, it might also seem disrespectful. I want to be able to get my emotions in check relatively quickly, make it less obvious, i guess, and have more appropriate reactions, @Psychgrrl
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    cebreisch wrote: »
    It could be a few things in combination. My bet would be menopause - I'm already taking hormones for that, and I just turned 50 last year.

    The other thing could be: I remember when I started seeing a therapist, he asked me if now that I was losing weight and dealing with the emotions, if things really aggravated me more so than ever before. YES!!! Things that never seemed to bother me enough to say anything were now big deals enough to almost be pet peeves. LOL. And apparently, the looks I would give were priceless. I was talking to a friend about someone who had been whining to me about something and said, "OMG - Boo-f&cking-hoo!!" And she busted a gut laughing. Apparently, I was in rare form that night.

    I'd call the obgyn to see if your hormones should be checked.

    Yes, that's exactly it, helps to know that I'm not going crazy and others go through similar experience and deal with same feelings. And although I'm really opposed to taking hormones, maybe it's something that could be helpful in getting this under control. Thank you. Do you have any side effects from hormones , @cebreisch ?
  • cebreisch
    cebreisch Posts: 1,340 Member
    icemom011 wrote: »
    cebreisch wrote: »
    It could be a few things in combination. My bet would be menopause - I'm already taking hormones for that, and I just turned 50 last year.

    The other thing could be: I remember when I started seeing a therapist, he asked me if now that I was losing weight and dealing with the emotions, if things really aggravated me more so than ever before. YES!!! Things that never seemed to bother me enough to say anything were now big deals enough to almost be pet peeves. LOL. And apparently, the looks I would give were priceless. I was talking to a friend about someone who had been whining to me about something and said, "OMG - Boo-f&cking-hoo!!" And she busted a gut laughing. Apparently, I was in rare form that night.

    I'd call the obgyn to see if your hormones should be checked.

    Yes, that's exactly it, helps to know that I'm not going crazy and others go through similar experience and deal with same feelings. And although I'm really opposed to taking hormones, maybe it's something that could be helpful in getting this under control. Thank you. Do you have any side effects from hormones , @cebreisch ?

    There can be side effects depending on what you take. Some estrogens have been linked to cancer when taken orally. It's important to find a doctor who prescribes bio identical hormones. Some can be in the form of a cream or patch or taken vaginally to reduce any cancer risk.
  • cebreisch
    cebreisch Posts: 1,340 Member
    I haven't noticed any negative side effects but it did take some time to get the dosage straightened out.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    Thank you very much!
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