The cookie diet!
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serindipte wrote: »serindipte wrote: »I mostly agree. Mostly. I think that there are people out there who will eat nothing but small amounts of calorie dense nutrient deficient food, feel like crap and binge, get depressed and give up.
We all know that cico is accurate. We all know that a little treat is helpful to stop most of us from binging BUT I think it's irresponsible to neglect recommending healthy lower calorie, nutrient dense foods for the largest part of your eating plan.
Believe it or not there ARE people out there who literally do not eat vegetables...like...at all.
How you feel and how much energy you have impact your success rate. It affect the co part of the equation because the healthier you feel the more calories you burn without even thinking about it because a healthy body WANTS to move.
But absolutely eat a cookie with leftover calories. Personally I like the soft ones from the bakery section of the grocery store.
Right! That's the "real food" part of the diet.
Then I'm all for it. I think a lot of people see "real food" and read "the junk I'm used to eating" unfortunately.
While that would still work, as long as they keep within their calorie goals, that bit about "from the grocery store" gets rid of the fast food for the most part. I still have fast food now and then, but not nearly as much as I once did. Had Zaxby's chicken strips with fries last night, in fact. It isn't something I could or would eat every day and, if I tried, I'd be starving because it would wipe out my calorie allotment.
@FreyasRebirth ~ I know, right?? Fortunately, I've had pretty good luck with ziploc bags in keeping them fresh. I have a batch that my friend made me for Christmas and I just have one now and then. They've even stayed soft.
I don't think it would really work in the long run because they'd be hungry and feel like crap and would give up but I suppose theoretically it is possible, just not likely. I don't know which grocery store you go to but mine has as much crap as what you call "real food".
I've mentioned this before, but although most people I know eat normal diets with vegetables and everything, I do know one woman (who knew she had a horrible diet) who for various reasons ate basically only fast food and hated to cook. She was about 100 lbs overweight when she decided to lose and chose to just count calories at fast food places and not change her diet. I had recently lost about 60 lbs eating really "naturally" (my thing, kind of dumb, but the good part was that it was nutrient dense), and thought this was crazy and horrifying, but it worked for her. After she lost some weight she started transitioning into more home cooking and getting different kinds of food when she got fast food (I assume because it was more filling and also--from knowing her--that she had kind of a "don't tell me how to eat" thing going on that she got past as she lost weight). Anyway, as a result of this and just my own experience I expect that often when people cut calories they naturally start cutting less filling foods and adding in more filling ones, for obvious reasons.
When I cut calories I naturally cut higher cal, lower nutrient things since I know I will miss them the least and they aren't the backbones of my meals. (But I leave in some indulgences, because I like them.)3 -
I ate 300 cals worth of Nilla Wafers just now. No regrets.3
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lemurcat12 wrote: »serindipte wrote: »serindipte wrote: »I mostly agree. Mostly. I think that there are people out there who will eat nothing but small amounts of calorie dense nutrient deficient food, feel like crap and binge, get depressed and give up.
We all know that cico is accurate. We all know that a little treat is helpful to stop most of us from binging BUT I think it's irresponsible to neglect recommending healthy lower calorie, nutrient dense foods for the largest part of your eating plan.
Believe it or not there ARE people out there who literally do not eat vegetables...like...at all.
How you feel and how much energy you have impact your success rate. It affect the co part of the equation because the healthier you feel the more calories you burn without even thinking about it because a healthy body WANTS to move.
But absolutely eat a cookie with leftover calories. Personally I like the soft ones from the bakery section of the grocery store.
Right! That's the "real food" part of the diet.
Then I'm all for it. I think a lot of people see "real food" and read "the junk I'm used to eating" unfortunately.
While that would still work, as long as they keep within their calorie goals, that bit about "from the grocery store" gets rid of the fast food for the most part. I still have fast food now and then, but not nearly as much as I once did. Had Zaxby's chicken strips with fries last night, in fact. It isn't something I could or would eat every day and, if I tried, I'd be starving because it would wipe out my calorie allotment.
@FreyasRebirth ~ I know, right?? Fortunately, I've had pretty good luck with ziploc bags in keeping them fresh. I have a batch that my friend made me for Christmas and I just have one now and then. They've even stayed soft.
I don't think it would really work in the long run because they'd be hungry and feel like crap and would give up but I suppose theoretically it is possible, just not likely. I don't know which grocery store you go to but mine has as much crap as what you call "real food".
I've mentioned this before, but although most people I know eat normal diets with vegetables and everything, I do know one woman (who knew she had a horrible diet) who for various reasons ate basically only fast food and hated to cook. She was about 100 lbs overweight when she decided to lose and chose to just count calories at fast food places and not change her diet. I had recently lost about 60 lbs eating really "naturally" (my thing, kind of dumb, but the good part was that it was nutrient dense), and thought this was crazy and horrifying, but it worked for her. After she lost some weight she started transitioning into more home cooking and getting different kinds of food when she got fast food (I assume because it was more filling and also--from knowing her--that she had kind of a "don't tell me how to eat" thing going on that she got past as she lost weight). Anyway, as a result of this and just my own experience I expect that often when people cut calories they naturally start cutting less filling foods and adding in more filling ones, for obvious reasons.
When I cut calories I naturally cut higher cal, lower nutrient things since I know I will miss them the least and they aren't the backbones of my meals. (But I leave in some indulgences, because I like them.)
Then why would you object to that being good advice to people who might not come to that conclusion naturally?0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »serindipte wrote: »serindipte wrote: »I mostly agree. Mostly. I think that there are people out there who will eat nothing but small amounts of calorie dense nutrient deficient food, feel like crap and binge, get depressed and give up.
We all know that cico is accurate. We all know that a little treat is helpful to stop most of us from binging BUT I think it's irresponsible to neglect recommending healthy lower calorie, nutrient dense foods for the largest part of your eating plan.
Believe it or not there ARE people out there who literally do not eat vegetables...like...at all.
How you feel and how much energy you have impact your success rate. It affect the co part of the equation because the healthier you feel the more calories you burn without even thinking about it because a healthy body WANTS to move.
But absolutely eat a cookie with leftover calories. Personally I like the soft ones from the bakery section of the grocery store.
Right! That's the "real food" part of the diet.
Then I'm all for it. I think a lot of people see "real food" and read "the junk I'm used to eating" unfortunately.
While that would still work, as long as they keep within their calorie goals, that bit about "from the grocery store" gets rid of the fast food for the most part. I still have fast food now and then, but not nearly as much as I once did. Had Zaxby's chicken strips with fries last night, in fact. It isn't something I could or would eat every day and, if I tried, I'd be starving because it would wipe out my calorie allotment.
@FreyasRebirth ~ I know, right?? Fortunately, I've had pretty good luck with ziploc bags in keeping them fresh. I have a batch that my friend made me for Christmas and I just have one now and then. They've even stayed soft.
I don't think it would really work in the long run because they'd be hungry and feel like crap and would give up but I suppose theoretically it is possible, just not likely. I don't know which grocery store you go to but mine has as much crap as what you call "real food".
I've mentioned this before, but although most people I know eat normal diets with vegetables and everything, I do know one woman (who knew she had a horrible diet) who for various reasons ate basically only fast food and hated to cook. She was about 100 lbs overweight when she decided to lose and chose to just count calories at fast food places and not change her diet. I had recently lost about 60 lbs eating really "naturally" (my thing, kind of dumb, but the good part was that it was nutrient dense), and thought this was crazy and horrifying, but it worked for her. After she lost some weight she started transitioning into more home cooking and getting different kinds of food when she got fast food (I assume because it was more filling and also--from knowing her--that she had kind of a "don't tell me how to eat" thing going on that she got past as she lost weight). Anyway, as a result of this and just my own experience I expect that often when people cut calories they naturally start cutting less filling foods and adding in more filling ones, for obvious reasons.
When I cut calories I naturally cut higher cal, lower nutrient things since I know I will miss them the least and they aren't the backbones of my meals. (But I leave in some indulgences, because I like them.)
Then why would you object to that being good advice to people who might not come to that conclusion naturally?
When have I ever objected to that being good advice? I think it is. I usually say such things (like "of course for satiety and health it is important to eat a healthy balanced diet" or even more specific things) as any look at my own advice in lots of different threads will demonstrate.
I just object to the claim that not saying those things explicitly in every post means that you are telling people to ignore nutrition and satiety, and I also think that it's incorrect to assume that others will eat poorly if not told not to. (They might eat poorly, of course, but not because they don't know better.) IMO, OP's post was quite clear. If someone took that to mean "don't eat vegetables," that has nothing to do with OP's advice or not knowing that vegetables are part of a healthy diet, but the desires of the person choosing not to eat vegetables.5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »serindipte wrote: »serindipte wrote: »I mostly agree. Mostly. I think that there are people out there who will eat nothing but small amounts of calorie dense nutrient deficient food, feel like crap and binge, get depressed and give up.
We all know that cico is accurate. We all know that a little treat is helpful to stop most of us from binging BUT I think it's irresponsible to neglect recommending healthy lower calorie, nutrient dense foods for the largest part of your eating plan.
Believe it or not there ARE people out there who literally do not eat vegetables...like...at all.
How you feel and how much energy you have impact your success rate. It affect the co part of the equation because the healthier you feel the more calories you burn without even thinking about it because a healthy body WANTS to move.
But absolutely eat a cookie with leftover calories. Personally I like the soft ones from the bakery section of the grocery store.
Right! That's the "real food" part of the diet.
Then I'm all for it. I think a lot of people see "real food" and read "the junk I'm used to eating" unfortunately.
While that would still work, as long as they keep within their calorie goals, that bit about "from the grocery store" gets rid of the fast food for the most part. I still have fast food now and then, but not nearly as much as I once did. Had Zaxby's chicken strips with fries last night, in fact. It isn't something I could or would eat every day and, if I tried, I'd be starving because it would wipe out my calorie allotment.
@FreyasRebirth ~ I know, right?? Fortunately, I've had pretty good luck with ziploc bags in keeping them fresh. I have a batch that my friend made me for Christmas and I just have one now and then. They've even stayed soft.
I don't think it would really work in the long run because they'd be hungry and feel like crap and would give up but I suppose theoretically it is possible, just not likely. I don't know which grocery store you go to but mine has as much crap as what you call "real food".
I've mentioned this before, but although most people I know eat normal diets with vegetables and everything, I do know one woman (who knew she had a horrible diet) who for various reasons ate basically only fast food and hated to cook. She was about 100 lbs overweight when she decided to lose and chose to just count calories at fast food places and not change her diet. I had recently lost about 60 lbs eating really "naturally" (my thing, kind of dumb, but the good part was that it was nutrient dense), and thought this was crazy and horrifying, but it worked for her. After she lost some weight she started transitioning into more home cooking and getting different kinds of food when she got fast food (I assume because it was more filling and also--from knowing her--that she had kind of a "don't tell me how to eat" thing going on that she got past as she lost weight). Anyway, as a result of this and just my own experience I expect that often when people cut calories they naturally start cutting less filling foods and adding in more filling ones, for obvious reasons.
When I cut calories I naturally cut higher cal, lower nutrient things since I know I will miss them the least and they aren't the backbones of my meals. (But I leave in some indulgences, because I like them.)
Then why would you object to that being good advice to people who might not come to that conclusion naturally?
When have I ever objected to that being good advice? I think it is. I usually say such things (like "of course for satiety and health it is important to eat a healthy balanced diet" or even more specific things) as any look at my own advice in lots of different threads will demonstrate.
I just object to the claim that not saying those things explicitly in every post means that you are telling people to ignore nutrition and satiety, and I also think that it's incorrect to assume that others will eat poorly if not told not to. (They might eat poorly, of course, but not because they don't know better.) IMO, OP's post was quite clear. If someone took that to mean "don't eat vegetables," that has nothing to do with OP's advice or not knowing that vegetables are part of a healthy diet, but the desires of the person choosing not to eat vegetables.
Well good. We agree on 99.9%. Have a good night0 -
Just make sure you are getting appropriate macros and micros, fiber, etc before filling up "extra calories" with high calorie, nutritionally low value foods1
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »For some reason I thought you were going to say something like, "you can eat anything so long as you shape it into a cookie."
But I pretty much agree with you - for myself, anyways. When I try to restrict, that's when I end up failing.
LOL when you said this it reminded me of the simpsons when homer was eating the power sauce bars and he took 3lbs of spaghetti and made it into a bar shape because apparently the shape released its awesomeness LOL
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I've actually been toying with the idea of taking a smoothie (I tend to use a lot of vegetables and some yogurt, as well as protein powder and frozen berries) and making it into a frozen dessert that serves as a meal. Kind of the same thing?1
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Not many people know this, but the broken cookie pieces have zero calories!
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frannieshack wrote: »Not many people know this, but the broken cookie pieces have zero calories!
Oh My Gawd!! It's like cookie dough, but different!!! I wish I'd known this sooner. lol
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I need to buy more cookies and get back on this thing.. Life hit me like a tornado and I totally got off track, but I'm not going to let that happen this time.
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FreyasRebirth wrote: »Where do I get a recipe for making anything less than two dozen cookies?
I can never actually manage to eat just one because otherwise the other 23 are gonna go bad!
ETA: found one to make 8. Still almost 350 calories for one freakin' cookie.
Take them into your office/place of work/college/share them with your family. Sharing is caring and you will soon become very popular 2 -
I was actually on a cookie diet awhile back, morning to night, I got sick of cookies after a week and craved regular food the way I did cookies.
Just made me realize me wanting cookies was just my bodies way of telling me I'm eating too much " real " food, so what to do? Eat everything in moderation, one cookie is probably not enough, you're just teasing yourself lol.1 -
I am also one of those people who think cookies are meh
Give me a slice of home made cake, especially Victoria Sandwich cake, that would be more like it 1 -
LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »I am also one of those people who think cookies are meh
Give me a slice of home made cake, especially Victoria Sandwich cake, that would be more like it
Fortunately, the cookie diet leaves plenty of room for substitutions! 2 -
LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »I am also one of those people who think cookies are meh
Give me a slice of home made cake, especially Victoria Sandwich cake, that would be more like it
Because you’re on the wrong side of the pond m’dear... 1 -
This diet scares me. Especially if it in any way advocates the consumption of girl scout cookies. These inedible hockey pucks that you are suckered into buying must be stopped. They mix cardboard into the batter as filler, or at least they taste that way. Just say no to GSC!0
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This diet scares me. Especially if it in any way advocates the consumption of girl scout cookies. These inedible hockey pucks that you are suckered into buying must be stopped. They mix cardboard into the batter as filler, or at least they taste that way. Just say no to GSC!
Happy to say I've never bought a Girl Scout cookie in my life! Of course, my dad worked for Keebler, so..... yeah, never had any lack of cookies. lol2 -
FreyasRebirth wrote: »Where do I get a recipe for making anything less than two dozen cookies? I can never actually manage to eat just one because otherwise the other 23 are gonna go bad!
ETA: found one to make 8. Still almost 350 calories for one freakin' cookie.
Cookies are usually made from calorie dense ingredients. Some claim to be lower calorie.
https://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/2015/12/21/cookies-recipes-100-calories/
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/food-recipes/healthy/g4099/healthy-cookie-recipes-to-bake/
You can scale the cookie recipe down yourself or many recipe sites have a feature to scale recipes. Sometimes you get odd amounts when you scale a recipe down. https://m.free-online-calculator-use.com/recipe-conversion-calculator.html
You can mix up the dough for 24 cookies and freeze the portion you do not want to use yet. If you shape it into balls before freezing you can take out just a few to bake at a time.
https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-freeze-cookie-dough-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-1952230 -
i dont eat cookies very often but i do typically have a bit of chocolate every day
i plan that *kitten*. I have to have some badness while watching Shameless every night on netflix lmao1 -
WinoGelato wrote: »LivingtheLeanDream wrote: »I am also one of those people who think cookies are meh
Give me a slice of home made cake, especially Victoria Sandwich cake, that would be more like it
Because you’re on the wrong side of the pond m’dear...
Is that what the problem is LOL1
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