Higher HR when exercising

0831227

Azdak wrote: »

0831227 wrote: »

Thank you everybody for sharing your advices/experience. I am currently away to Mauritius for around 6 months

OK, my life sucks.

Raising you my cup of tea (also, if you look closely to the size of that mug, you might also find out why the high HR).

ninerbuff

0831227 wrote: »

ninerbuff wrote: »

Rule of thumb. If you can breathe reasonably while doing cardio and have had no heart issues or health issues, then just do it at that level. Gasping for air (unless you're doing HIIT) would be too high of an intensity for you.

Thank you for your reply, I usually get it on the machines, but I started using the monitors of the gym's trainers when I noticed that the numbers were high and I got ''approximatively +/- 5'' on all monitors.

You said that gasping for air was too much unless you are doing HIIT, I am currently starting to try this technique, I have 50 seconds intervals on the treadmill going from 3.7miles/h to 6.5 miles/h for 15 to 20 minutes. Would you consider it an HIIT training? Usually I do it after 25 elliptical or running with no gradient at around 5 miles/h.

No that would be interval training. HIIT training you're literally gasping for air and need to slow down quite a bit to recover. Most HIIT will only be 15-30 seconds max in duration.

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AnnPT77

ninerbuff wrote: »

0831227 wrote: »

ninerbuff wrote: »

Rule of thumb. If you can breathe reasonably while doing cardio and have had no heart issues or health issues, then just do it at that level. Gasping for air (unless you're doing HIIT) would be too high of an intensity for you.

Thank you for your reply, I usually get it on the machines, but I started using the monitors of the gym's trainers when I noticed that the numbers were high and I got ''approximatively +/- 5'' on all monitors.

You said that gasping for air was too much unless you are doing HIIT, I am currently starting to try this technique, I have 50 seconds intervals on the treadmill going from 3.7miles/h to 6.5 miles/h for 15 to 20 minutes. Would you consider it an HIIT training? Usually I do it after 25 elliptical or running with no gradient at around 5 miles/h.

No that would be interval training. HIIT training you're literally gasping for air and need to slow down quite a bit to recover. Most HIIT will only be 15-30 seconds max in duration.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

To make it even simpler - once you're assured you have no heart issues - think of HIIT as max effort on the work intervals, and don't worry about heart rate per se.

We tend to have some HR variation as the activity changes, for a variety of reasons.

I can pretty easily** max my heart rate doing classic Tabata intervals* on the rowing machine, but only get to maybe 20ish beats below max when doing them on a spin bike.

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* Tabata intervals: 8 x (20 seconds max effort, 10 seconds easy) . . . after a warm-up, before a cool-down, please!

** For some values of "easy".

AnnPT77

Azdak wrote: »

AnnPT77 wrote: »

feetjustgo wrote: »

I'm in my late twenties and my HR also shoots up while exercising (similar to what you've reported, but I go even higher when running). It really freaked me out when I first started using a HR monitor, especially since it seemed impossible to work out in the "right" range. I got the same advice that others have shared--not to worry about it unless other troubling symptoms popped up. My doctor at the time didn't even order any testing, although I've done full blood work and an EKG since then and everything was fine. I still like the idea of using a HR monitor, but I eventually ditched mine to focus on perceived intensity. I don't think the traditional "zones" necessarily apply to us. Plus, as someone else mentioned, the calorie count is way off for us high HR folks.

If one knows one's actual (tested) max heart rate and resting heart rate, and uses those to calculate training ranges, the normal way of calculating ranges ought to work for training purposes at least as well as RPE. Better, maybe, if the HRM uses VO2max estimates.

I don't know whether (given a HR monitor that lets you control enough variables) the calorie level would be as accurate as it is for more typical HR folks, or not . . . although I ate back pretty much all my HRM calories while losing successfully at a predictable rate, and my HR max is around 20 beats above several standard estimates (220-age and others). (This was with a HRM that uses actual resting/max rates, not just age-predicted.) Just n=1, though.

I'm no expert, though - if anyone is, I hope they'll speak up.

If you had an HRM that allowed manual entry of HRmax and HRrest, then yes, it should calculate appropriate training zones and calorie count accuracy would be improved.

One of the things I love about MFP is that there are resident experts who are willing to help us keep on a rational track. Thank you, @Azdak - I'm more than capable of speculating myself out into the wilderness, so I'm glad of your knowledgeable input, to know I'm not too far afield.

OldAssDude

You should get a stress test to determine your true max heart rate. Also, you should use an accurate heart rate monitor while you are working out. Chest strap monitors are best.

You should also train at percentage of your max heart rate rather than beats per minute. 70 to 90 percent will give you a good cardio, but you must know your actual max heart rate. The 220 - age formula does not work for all people, and I am guessing yours is higher.