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Nutrition
Mendoza7121
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How many of you out there believe to get to your fitness goals its 90% nutrition i believe its 90%. feel free to comment your opinions
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As opposed to 10% exercise? is that what you're getting at?1
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How is this measurable?2
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Yeah 10% exercise1
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Ive always had hard time gettin the body i want. But when i started dieting the right way things were so much easier1
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For me and my goals, it is usually 50/50. If I'm not lifting but bulking or cutting I would just end up squishy/higher BF%.. been there done that. Although the percentage can change, sometimes lifting becomes more important than my diet.. for ex. if I'm closer to goal, cutting vs recomp really won't make a big difference... but lifting has to be in that equation for the magic to happen.1
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Totally depends on the goals. Weight/fat loss happens in the kitchen, but if you want to build muscle, you're going to need exercise.1
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What are you basing the percentages on? Your sedentary maintenance calories? If that's the case, my deficit can come 100% from dieting, 100% from exercise (as in eating my sedentary maintenance or more and creating a deficit solely with exercise), or a random mix of both. It really depends on my activity level on any given day.
If you mean a percentage of perceived effort, I find most of my mental effort goes into balancing my food calories. I would say about 80-90%.1 -
I'm not going to get the body I want by nutrition. I don't think anyone does.3
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I can get skinny fat with food, not a good look though2
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »I can get skinny fat with food, not a good look though
This.
That moment when you hit the middle of normal bmi, and realize that you look like a *kitten* alien from an X-Files ripoff.3 -
Yeah totally dependent on goals. If all you want is to fit into size x then that can happen entirely in the kitchen/calorie intake. Getting a specific aesthetic is much more 50% doing the right exercise and 50% eating the right calorie goal.
So, depends on the desired end result.0 -
It depends on the person really. For some people it is extremely difficult to stop the cravings & eat a certain amount. For them I would say you're right. I would never judge an addiction or a craving. Can be anything & happen to anyone really.
For me, once I get in to a good groove, I don't really find the nutrition part that difficult. Its the fitness bit.
I mean I am not sure about your goals but its difficult to go really heavy weights injury free at the gym as well. Or to run marathons for some others. Or perhaps killing their squad PR's, overhead press PR's, getting that last couple miles in on a run, or pushing really hard on that last 30 seconds on your boxing round.
These things, pushing yourself at the workout you do, including stopping yourself from eating & drinking etc; all need 100% spirit, and 100% determination. My hats off to anyone that are able to fight their own devils day in and out, and wake up the next day to fight again.1 -
I think its difficult to quantify in terms of percentages. I have been known to see more of a drop on the scales week to week when I just do it through diet and not exercise but I am much happier with my shape when I include weight training. I also find it easier to stick to a diet if I'm exercising, it just puts me in a more positive mindset...0
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Nutrition as in vitamins, minerals, micros and macros? Very low... 20% maybe?
Nutrition as in overall intake? Yep, I'd pretty much agree. As others have said... I'm not sure how you quantify it, but intake is a bigger determinant (for me) than is exercise. 90% might be high... I'd probably go more like 70/30 because both do matter. Intake gives me more immediate progress/results, but exercise has more end-game impact.0 -
I agree that quantifying the exact percentages would be very difficult to do, but I don't think it would be 90% diet for most. If we were talking weight loss only I'd be more inclined to agree, but for fitness (which BTW is different from getting the body you want) I'd bet that activity is always going to be more than 10%.0
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Hitting fitness goals with food? I don't think it is as high as 90%. The foods I choose will determine my health which will determine how active I am. 90% seems too high.
20 years ago I ran half marathons on the weekends. My long runs were 4 hours and I climbed mountains after work. At the time I was an undiagnosed celiac and my thyroid was untreated. I was also eating a low fat diet. Youth allowed me to power through it.
20 more years of untreated celiac and hashi's, plus more low fat, and my health is a mess. If I climb mountains now, my joints are so inflammed for weeks afterwards that I have a hard time getting up from chairs. I feel pain when walking nevermind running.
For me, saying fitness goals can largely be reached through nutrition is wrong. Health goals? I would say most can be addressed with nutrition.2 -
Disagree. Maybe pure weight is 90% food and 10% exercise, but health is more of a 60/40 split for me because of the systemic benefits of exercise.0
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The way i look at it, if you want the body you want... the one that many people will never get... it's 100% diet, 100% exercise, 100% recovery. If you're only putting part of the effort into the equation, you can expect to get part of the results.
Edit: wow, what the hell was I trying to type.4 -
The way i look at it, if you want the body you want... the one that many people will never get... it's 100% diet, 100% exercise, 100% recovery. If you're only putting part of the effort into the equation, you can expect to get part of the results.
HEY!!! I resemble that remark...1 -
mendozarm9 wrote: »Yeah 10% exercise
I would think a fitness goal would be a lot more than 10% exercise. So if your fitness goal is to run a marathon, 90% of your prep is your food choice? I feel like that's going to be a slow marathon.
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mendozarm9 wrote: »Yeah 10% exercise
I would think a fitness goal would be a lot more than 10% exercise. So if your fitness goal is to run a marathon, 90% of your prep is your food choice? I feel like that's going to be a slow marathon.
He's not really talking fitness though. He later says he's talking about a certain "look". It's more about aesthetics than performance.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »mendozarm9 wrote: »Yeah 10% exercise
I would think a fitness goal would be a lot more than 10% exercise. So if your fitness goal is to run a marathon, 90% of your prep is your food choice? I feel like that's going to be a slow marathon.
He's not really talking fitness though. He later says he's talking about a certain "look". It's more about aesthetics than performance.
Well then I would say if it's a physical appearance thing it is 100% subjective. Somebody might be perfectly fine with losing or gaining weight with just diet, and love the body that gets them. Somebody else might not. I have this weird thing, where I like my weight lower, but don't like the look of my skin on my stomach when that happens, so I will gain some weight, and then hate the weight I'm at!
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »mendozarm9 wrote: »Yeah 10% exercise
I would think a fitness goal would be a lot more than 10% exercise. So if your fitness goal is to run a marathon, 90% of your prep is your food choice? I feel like that's going to be a slow marathon.
He's not really talking fitness though. He later says he's talking about a certain "look". It's more about aesthetics than performance.
Well then I would say if it's a physical appearance thing it is 100% subjective. Somebody might be perfectly fine with losing or gaining weight with just diet, and love the body that gets them. Somebody else might not. I have this weird thing, where I like my weight lower, but don't like the look of my skin on my stomach when that happens, so I will gain some weight, and then hate the weight I'm at!
Have you tried gaining muscle to help fill in that skin? I often see complaints from underweight people with the issue, and it's driven by poor body composition.. particularly in that area.
Note: not suggesting you are underweight.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »mendozarm9 wrote: »Yeah 10% exercise
I would think a fitness goal would be a lot more than 10% exercise. So if your fitness goal is to run a marathon, 90% of your prep is your food choice? I feel like that's going to be a slow marathon.
He's not really talking fitness though. He later says he's talking about a certain "look". It's more about aesthetics than performance.
Well then I would say if it's a physical appearance thing it is 100% subjective. Somebody might be perfectly fine with losing or gaining weight with just diet, and love the body that gets them. Somebody else might not. I have this weird thing, where I like my weight lower, but don't like the look of my skin on my stomach when that happens, so I will gain some weight, and then hate the weight I'm at!
Have you tried gaining muscle to help fill in that skin? I often see complaints from underweight people with the issue, and it's driven by poor body composition.. particularly in that area.
Note: not suggesting you are underweight.
Oh believe me, I'm trying to fill it in with muscle haha, I mean I definitely not a small person, I started here at 315, and got down to 240, but have found I feel better at 260. When I first lost the weight, it was all through diet, and running, then I got back into the gym for a year, then backout of the gym for a year and a half, and now, I'm back again for the past year, not where I want to be strength wise, but definitely getting there all while still trying to keep up with my running.0 -
I'm not going to get the body I want by nutrition. I don't think anyone does.
It depends. I'm very happy with my body/how I look and I don't do any sort of intentional exercise (besides my day to day activities). I have a bmi of 20.7 (going from this morning's weigh-in), look good in my size 4 jeans and look fine in the buff as well lol. I just focus on my calorie intake and then eating a varied diet of all the foods I like. I have no desire to change anything about my appearance and I'm pleased with how good I do look, for being a 38 year old mom of three kids who's lost a lot of weight
I've gotten the body I want (and the desired health markers/blood work results), just by focusing on my calorie intake and then eating a wide range of foods. 0 -
My mom went from about 250 to 160 and never looked any different, body wise, just smaller. Same goes for my sister and me ... we can be up or down in weight but look the same cause of how our body composition is. So ... for losing weight, it's all about calories (nutrition) but for toning to change proportions ... If it will be done, it will be done via exercise to enhance musculature.0
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crzycatlady1 wrote: »I'm not going to get the body I want by nutrition. I don't think anyone does.
It depends. I'm very happy with my body/how I look and I don't do any sort of intentional exercise (besides my day to day activities). I have a bmi of 20.7 (going from this morning's weigh-in), look good in my size 4 jeans and look fine in the buff as well lol. I just focus on my calorie intake and then eating a varied diet of all the foods I like. I have no desire to change anything about my appearance and I'm pleased with how good I do look, for being a 38 year old mom of three kids who's lost a lot of weight I've gotten the body I want (and the desired health markers/blood work results), just by focusing on my calorie intake and then eating a wide range of foods.
How I envy you. I wish my health was as positively affected by weight loss as yours is/was. No, I'm stuck with my father's crappy genetics (which I'll take over my mom's because I have a fear of needles).0 -
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The amount of times I have been asked about nutrition iI always ask "what did you have for breakfast" just about all say the don't bother with breakfast!
Break-fast is what it is.
A balance of protein carbs and fats throughout the day is a way of life for many that have trained and kept themselves in shape.
Its not something to fret about positive nutrition is key
As is excersise
The main one that may lose sight of is rest.
Id say across the board it's 60% nutrition 10% training 30% rest that's how Ive always equated it.
I must say that when I was younger I had more of an eye for detail where as now getting on in years the only thing I fret about is waking up in a morning.0 -
Personally - JMO - I think it's a pretty baby-feline silly question: You're trying to quantify abstractions. Why is that useful, even metaphorically?
If fitness is your only or predominant goal, you're probably gonna have to optimize both nutrition and fitness programming, not to mention sleep/rest, and back-burner most anything else (except maybe gainful employment to fund the enterprise, unless you're independently wealthy, or have a sugar momma).
I see the point of fitness, I see the point of nutrition, but quantifying the abstractions' relationships? How is that helpful to accomplishing your goals? In my world, it's tail-chasing.
Well, you did ask for opinions. That's mine. Li'l ol' lady's got a million of 'em.
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