Carbohydrates
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Eat your bread with a little protein and fat and you will slow down the insulin response.
Like a burger. Add veggies of course.
Or a peanut butter sandwich.
I also find that rough breads like wholemeal or the ryes are digested a little slower than the white breads. Even better if eaten with light cream cheese for instance.
If you are worried about the insulin response from white breads you better watch out for white rice too.
If you simply are trying to lose weight, just keep below your daily calorie allotment. Your body will figure out the rest.
The bigger question is, who eats white bread. That stuff taste like crap. Now potato bread or a pumpernickel bread is where it's at. Although, I am a huge fan of multigrain breads as well. So many good breads and white bread is not even in the category.2 -
Eat your bread with a little protein and fat and you will slow down the insulin response.
Like a burger. Add veggies of course.
Or a peanut butter sandwich.
I also find that rough breads like wholemeal or the ryes are digested a little slower than the white breads. Even better if eaten with light cream cheese for instance.
If you are worried about the insulin response from white breads you better watch out for white rice too.
If you simply are trying to lose weight, just keep below your daily calorie allotment. Your body will figure out the rest.
The bigger question is, who eats white bread. That stuff taste like crap. Now potato bread or a pumpernickel bread is where it's at. Although, I am a huge fan of multigrain breads as well. So many good breads and white bread is not even in the category.
I like a lot of breads, but most of them are comparable nutritionally to white bread. Also, non-white breads tend to cost more up here and I don't see why I should pay more for the same item because it's brown.1 -
Eat your bread with a little protein and fat and you will slow down the insulin response.
Like a burger. Add veggies of course.
Or a peanut butter sandwich.
I also find that rough breads like wholemeal or the ryes are digested a little slower than the white breads. Even better if eaten with light cream cheese for instance.
If you are worried about the insulin response from white breads you better watch out for white rice too.
If you simply are trying to lose weight, just keep below your daily calorie allotment. Your body will figure out the rest.
The bigger question is, who eats white bread. That stuff taste like crap. Now potato bread or a pumpernickel bread is where it's at. Although, I am a huge fan of multigrain breads as well. So many good breads and white bread is not even in the category.
I'm all about sourdough...I was making my own for awhile, but I neglected my starter...1 -
Eat your bread with a little protein and fat and you will slow down the insulin response.
Like a burger. Add veggies of course.
Or a peanut butter sandwich.
I also find that rough breads like wholemeal or the ryes are digested a little slower than the white breads. Even better if eaten with light cream cheese for instance.
If you are worried about the insulin response from white breads you better watch out for white rice too.
If you simply are trying to lose weight, just keep below your daily calorie allotment. Your body will figure out the rest.
The bigger question is, who eats white bread. That stuff taste like crap. Now potato bread or a pumpernickel bread is where it's at. Although, I am a huge fan of multigrain breads as well. So many good breads and white bread is not even in the category.
When my dad was diagnosed with diabetes twenty years ago we switched to strictly wheat. Occasionally I'll pick up a loaf of oatmeal bread, but only if I'm in the mood to spend calories on it (120 per slice).0 -
Eat your bread with a little protein and fat and you will slow down the insulin response.
Like a burger. Add veggies of course.
Or a peanut butter sandwich.
I also find that rough breads like wholemeal or the ryes are digested a little slower than the white breads. Even better if eaten with light cream cheese for instance.
If you are worried about the insulin response from white breads you better watch out for white rice too.
If you simply are trying to lose weight, just keep below your daily calorie allotment. Your body will figure out the rest.
The bigger question is, who eats white bread. That stuff taste like crap. Now potato bread or a pumpernickel bread is where it's at. Although, I am a huge fan of multigrain breads as well. So many good breads and white bread is not even in the category.
I like a lot of breads, but most of them are comparable nutritionally to white bread. Also, non-white breads tend to cost more up here and I don't see why I should pay more for the same item because it's brown.
No you shouldn't. Unprocessed foods cost more for some stupid reasons. God knows why1 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.0 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.3 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
@chocoliyt Have you thought about buying a glucose monitor? They are relatively inexpensive, although the test strips get costly. If you want to know what foods spike BG, and avoid or limit those foods, a BG monitor is the only way to know.
Check you BG an hour and two hours after eating certain foods to see how they affect you. You may find processed carbs are a problem but you may also find they are not. Testing is the only way to really know.
As wholegrain bread contain a lot of fibrewhich prevents sugar spikes. Yes sugar levels will rise as they do with all carbs but this rise is gradual rather than quick which is much healthier for a diabetic.0 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
???? Why do metabolically healthy people need to do more than eat a varied diet? Why will the body's normal responses to food hurt someone who is metabolically healthy?
Why should people without medical conditions be using glucometers?
Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying here?
The OP did say he/she was eating bread with meals, not in isolation.
OP, the bigger question is why aren't you feeling full after your meals? The whole discussion about bread is really missing the point since bread isn't the only thing being eaten.
What do your typical meals consist of?6 -
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I love bread. Actually, I love pretty much all carbs (bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, chips, candy etc.) In late December, I made the decision to lose 20 pounds. I have tracked every single bite everyday since then and except for a couple of slip-ups, I always stay within my macros. I love seeing the pounds drop! What I like most about MFP is that you can have pretty much anything and it comes down to personal choices. If you feel you must have bread, go ahead have bread if it fits into your macros for the day. If you know you need bread at dinner, plan for it early in the day and leave yourself enough carbs left to have that dinner bread. Also, check the label carefully and compare what you buy to other breads, wraps, pitas. It's all about your decisions and your choices. You can have just about anything but stay within your macros.0
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
yes but not everyone with a metabolic issue has problems with BG or have insulin resistance. I know I dont.1 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
The OP did say he/she was eating bread with meals, not in isolation.
OP, the bigger question is why aren't you feeling full after your meals? The whole discussion about bread is really missing the point since bread isn't the only thing being eaten.
What do your typical meals consist of?
I believe OP was saying that eating bread with their meals makes them feel full, so when they read that you should give up bread, they were afraid they wouldn't feel full if they did.1 -
I believe OP was saying that eating bread with their meals makes them feel full, so when they read that you should give up bread, they were afraid they wouldn't feel full if they did.
Exactly. OP shouldn't worry about bread if she is staying withing her target calories and is satisfied with her meals.
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
Why is it bad for glucose to spike in a normally healthy person? Isn't that what it's supposed to do? I know little about diabetes, but you're coming across as saying glucose spikes are bad because it's bad for diabetics and people with IR.5 -
Why is it bad for glucose to spike in a normally healthy person? Isn't that what it's supposed to do? I know little about diabetes, but you're coming across as saying glucose spikes are bad because it's bad for diabetics and people with IR.
Spikes in blood sugar can be bad for diabetics because their pancreas does not produce the proper amounts of insulin to convert it.
You are right. For a normal person with a fully functioning pancreas, they are not bad and there is no reason for a normal healthy person to use a glucometer.
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
@chocoliyt Have you thought about buying a glucose monitor? They are relatively inexpensive, although the test strips get costly. If you want to know what foods spike BG, and avoid or limit those foods, a BG monitor is the only way to know.
Check you BG an hour and two hours after eating certain foods to see how they affect you. You may find processed carbs are a problem but you may also find they are not. Testing is the only way to really know.
As wholegrain bread contain a lot of fibrewhich prevents sugar spikes. Yes sugar levels will rise as they do with all carbs but this rise is gradual rather than quick which is much healthier for a diabetic.
Perhaps for you. I still have not ,et a bread that does not cause BG quick spikes, as shown by my glucometre. A juice or pop will raise it faster, but bread is generally worse, for me, than the vegetables I eat.0 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
???? Why do metabolically healthy people need to do more than eat a varied diet? Why will the body's normal responses to food hurt someone who is metabolically healthy?
Why should people without medical conditions be using glucometers?
Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying here?
The OP did say he/she was eating bread with meals, not in isolation.
OP, the bigger question is why aren't you feeling full after your meals? The whole discussion about bread is really missing the point since bread isn't the only thing being eaten.
What do your typical meals consist of?
The OP appeared worried about the effect of foods like bread on her BG. A glucometre will show if any food is having a negative affect on BG. That is why I suggested it.
If they do well with carbs, BG will not go high. High BG will eventually cause damage to tissue. If the OP is worried about BG, they should test to put those fears to reast, or they can alther their diets to address the issue.
I gotta say, I'm surprised so many responded to a suggestion to test BG if worried about BG.0 -
I like bread. I usually use one slice for sandwich or to have with my meal since I usually eat 2+ a day. I eat different kinds of bread. Some are lower calorie0
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speaking of bread...I like to toast french bread then rub garlic into it & add a little butter mmmm2
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
yes but not everyone with a metabolic issue has problems with BG or have insulin resistance. I know I dont.
Congrats. If the OP is metabolically healthy, a postprandial BG reading will show that.Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
Why is it bad for glucose to spike in a normally healthy person? Isn't that what it's supposed to do? I know little about diabetes, but you're coming across as saying glucose spikes are bad because it's bad for diabetics and people with IR.
Reapeatedly high BG will cause tissue damage (CVD, kidney and nerve damage, etc). The level that was thought to cause damage has been lowered over the past few years. This includes non-diabetics.
Insulin spikes are helpful. Blood glucose spikes are not.0 -
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
Why does it matter if your body is handling it the way it should?1 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
@chocoliyt Have you thought about buying a glucose monitor? They are relatively inexpensive, although the test strips get costly. If you want to know what foods spike BG, and avoid or limit those foods, a BG monitor is the only way to know.
Check you BG an hour and two hours after eating certain foods to see how they affect you. You may find processed carbs are a problem but you may also find they are not. Testing is the only way to really know.
As wholegrain bread contain a lot of fibrewhich prevents sugar spikes. Yes sugar levels will rise as they do with all carbs but this rise is gradual rather than quick which is much healthier for a diabetic.
Perhaps for you. I still have not ,et a bread that does not cause BG quick spikes, as shown by my glucometre. A juice or pop will raise it faster, but bread is generally worse, for me, than the vegetables I eat.
when you are getting tested for diabetes, a usual test performed is the doctor gives you a can of soda and you drink it, they test your sugars after 2 hours to see if your sugars go down.. if they are high and passed 10 still after 2 hours you are likely to be diabetic or close to it.
If they come down a bit but are still on the high side by the 2 hours, you are probably prediabetic..
A normal healthy person will drink the soda and within 2 hours will have a reading between 3 and 7
I had to drink this awful orange sugar water concoction and almost threw it up because it was so bad (I only had a few seconds to chug a big glass of it-darn nurse timed it), I'd have loved a can of soda instead
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?0 -
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
@chocoliyt Have you thought about buying a glucose monitor? They are relatively inexpensive, although the test strips get costly. If you want to know what foods spike BG, and avoid or limit those foods, a BG monitor is the only way to know.
Check you BG an hour and two hours after eating certain foods to see how they affect you. You may find processed carbs are a problem but you may also find they are not. Testing is the only way to really know.
As wholegrain bread contain a lot of fibrewhich prevents sugar spikes. Yes sugar levels will rise as they do with all carbs but this rise is gradual rather than quick which is much healthier for a diabetic.
Perhaps for you. I still have not ,et a bread that does not cause BG quick spikes, as shown by my glucometre. A juice or pop will raise it faster, but bread is generally worse, for me, than the vegetables I eat.
when you are getting tested for diabetes, a usual test performed is the doctor gives you a can of soda and you drink it, they test your sugars after 2 hours to see if your sugars go down.. if they are high and passed 10 still after 2 hours you are likely to be diabetic or close to it.
If they come down a bit but are still on the high side by the 2 hours, you are probably prediabetic..
A normal healthy person will drink the soda and within 2 hours will have a reading between 3 and 7
Getting an Oral Glucose Tolerance Test (OGTT) done will tell a person a lot. True.Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
Why does it matter if your body is handling it the way it should?
This is getting a bit circular... How do you know your body is handling it the way it should unless you test? I honestly thought I was fine until I discovered that I wasn't completely normal.0 -
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
@chocoliyt Have you thought about buying a glucose monitor? They are relatively inexpensive, although the test strips get costly. If you want to know what foods spike BG, and avoid or limit those foods, a BG monitor is the only way to know.
Check you BG an hour and two hours after eating certain foods to see how they affect you. You may find processed carbs are a problem but you may also find they are not. Testing is the only way to really know.
As wholegrain bread contain a lot of fibrewhich prevents sugar spikes. Yes sugar levels will rise as they do with all carbs but this rise is gradual rather than quick which is much healthier for a diabetic.
Perhaps for you. I still have not ,et a bread that does not cause BG quick spikes, as shown by my glucometre. A juice or pop will raise it faster, but bread is generally worse, for me, than the vegetables I eat.
when you are getting tested for diabetes, a usual test performed is the doctor gives you a can of soda and you drink it, they test your sugars after 2 hours to see if your sugars go down.. if they are high and passed 10 still after 2 hours you are likely to be diabetic or close to it.
If they come down a bit but are still on the high side by the 2 hours, you are probably prediabetic..
A normal healthy person will drink the soda and within 2 hours will have a reading between 3 and 7
I had to drink this awful orange sugar water concoction and almost threw it up because it was so bad (I only had a few seconds to chug a big glass of it-darn nurse timed it), I'd have loved a can of soda instead
LOL good lord, thats awful, sounds like they were just cheaping out.. it was probably that powdered tang that smells like drain cleaner
its not cheaping out, when they give you a glucose test its usually a sugary sweet drink(sickeningly sweet).They arent cheap either. they dont give you soda or at least not at any of the glucose tests I have had(or anyone else I know have had). its gross at any rate lol3
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