Carbohydrates
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Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
See, this is the problem with suggesting someone should check their blood sugar levels when it's in absence of medical direction and interpretation. The average person isn't going to know enough about what the reading means or when to be concerned. This isn't a personal swipe at you, Christine.
Post consumption elevation of blood sugar is normal and expected, your body will produce insulin and drop it in response. How high that spike is and whether or not it is something to be concerned about is dependent on several factors. Having your doctor check your HbA1C and a glucose tolerance test will give a more complete picture than a single random blood sugar test.6 -
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Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
It could be a warning. It could be a fluke.
I had an OGTT done a few years back. My fasting BG was a 6 (I've since discovered that my FBG is always my highest reading of the day - overactive liver or something). And hour after the drink I was 9.6 (prediabetic high) but by 2 hrs after my BG was falling fast and was a low 4. They made me eat again because it wasn't stopping. Reactive hypoglycemia.
My glucometre has shown me the same trend repeatedly. Handy tool. I also know that my FBG is still my highest reading of the day and the fasted way to get it down is to eat something. My postprandial BG readings are never more than a 6, and usually in the mid 5's. The glucometre is helpful for finding out how foods affect you, so you can adjust and eat more appropriate foods for your situation. If one can handle bread fine, that's something useful to know too.
In Canada, there is just normal, prediabetic, and diabetic. A FBG for a prediabetic is a 5.6, and normal is <5.5. If you end up with a bunch of 5.5 readings, it could be a sign that it could be watched. If you get a bunch of 5.0's what you are doing now is working great for you.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
See, this is the problem with suggesting someone should check their blood sugar levels when it's in absence of medical direction and interpretation. The average person isn't going to know enough about what the reading means or when to be concerned. This isn't a personal swipe at you, Christine.
Post consumption elevation of blood sugar is normal and expected, your body will produce insulin and drop it in response. How high that spike is and whether or not it is something to be concerned about is dependent on several factors. Having your doctor check your HbA1C and a glucose tolerance test will give a more complete picture than a single random blood sugar test.
That's why I find a glucometre to be a handy tool. You can test yourself repeatedly throughout the day, and make a point of testing after specific carbs that you want information about.
My endo said NOTHING to me about my slightly high OGTT and prediabetic tests except that it should be watched. I presume she meant she'll watch it as it goes higher. Relying just on doctor advice (on a FBG test or A1c) is not always in a person's best interests. Sometimes looking into it yourself is a good way to help yourself.
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
@chocoliyt Have you thought about buying a glucose monitor? They are relatively inexpensive, although the test strips get costly. If you want to know what foods spike BG, and avoid or limit those foods, a BG monitor is the only way to know.
Check you BG an hour and two hours after eating certain foods to see how they affect you. You may find processed carbs are a problem but you may also find they are not. Testing is the only way to really know.
As wholegrain bread contain a lot of fibrewhich prevents sugar spikes. Yes sugar levels will rise as they do with all carbs but this rise is gradual rather than quick which is much healthier for a diabetic.
Perhaps for you. I still have not ,et a bread that does not cause BG quick spikes, as shown by my glucometre. A juice or pop will raise it faster, but bread is generally worse, for me, than the vegetables I eat.
when you are getting tested for diabetes, a usual test performed is the doctor gives you a can of soda and you drink it, they test your sugars after 2 hours to see if your sugars go down.. if they are high and passed 10 still after 2 hours you are likely to be diabetic or close to it.
If they come down a bit but are still on the high side by the 2 hours, you are probably prediabetic..
A normal healthy person will drink the soda and within 2 hours will have a reading between 3 and 7
I had to drink this awful orange sugar water concoction and almost threw it up because it was so bad (I only had a few seconds to chug a big glass of it-darn nurse timed it), I'd have loved a can of soda instead
LOL good lord, thats awful, sounds like they were just cheaping out.. it was probably that powdered tang that smells like drain cleaner
its not cheaping out, when they give you a glucose test its usually a sugary sweet drink(sickeningly sweet).They arent cheap either. they dont give you soda or at least not at any of the glucose tests I have had(or anyone else I know have had). its gross at any rate lol
... well then.. either way.. sounds like soda would be an all around winner regardless? lol.. i wonder how much sugar they put in the orange stuff
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
See, this is the problem with suggesting someone should check their blood sugar levels when it's in absence of medical direction and interpretation. The average person isn't going to know enough about what the reading means or when to be concerned. This isn't a personal swipe at you, Christine.
Post consumption elevation of blood sugar is normal and expected, your body will produce insulin and drop it in response. How high that spike is and whether or not it is something to be concerned about is dependent on several factors. Having your doctor check your HbA1C and a glucose tolerance test will give a more complete picture than a single random blood sugar test.
That's why I find a glucometre to be a handy tool. You can test yourself repeatedly throughout the day, and make a point of testing after specific carbs that you want information about.
My endo said NOTHING to me about my slightly high OGTT and prediabetic tests except that it should be watched. I presume she meant she'll watch it as it goes higher. Relying just on doctor advice (on a FBG test or A1c) is not always in a person's best interests. Sometimes looking into it yourself is a good way to help yourself.
Honestly, it just sounds expensive, painful, and unnecessary. For someone who understands and can interpret the results and it's that important to them, then fine. I think for the average person, it's overkill.0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
@chocoliyt Have you thought about buying a glucose monitor? They are relatively inexpensive, although the test strips get costly. If you want to know what foods spike BG, and avoid or limit those foods, a BG monitor is the only way to know.
Check you BG an hour and two hours after eating certain foods to see how they affect you. You may find processed carbs are a problem but you may also find they are not. Testing is the only way to really know.
As wholegrain bread contain a lot of fibrewhich prevents sugar spikes. Yes sugar levels will rise as they do with all carbs but this rise is gradual rather than quick which is much healthier for a diabetic.
Perhaps for you. I still have not ,et a bread that does not cause BG quick spikes, as shown by my glucometre. A juice or pop will raise it faster, but bread is generally worse, for me, than the vegetables I eat.
when you are getting tested for diabetes, a usual test performed is the doctor gives you a can of soda and you drink it, they test your sugars after 2 hours to see if your sugars go down.. if they are high and passed 10 still after 2 hours you are likely to be diabetic or close to it.
If they come down a bit but are still on the high side by the 2 hours, you are probably prediabetic..
A normal healthy person will drink the soda and within 2 hours will have a reading between 3 and 7
I had to drink this awful orange sugar water concoction and almost threw it up because it was so bad (I only had a few seconds to chug a big glass of it-darn nurse timed it), I'd have loved a can of soda instead
LOL good lord, thats awful, sounds like they were just cheaping out.. it was probably that powdered tang that smells like drain cleaner
its not cheaping out, when they give you a glucose test its usually a sugary sweet drink(sickeningly sweet).They arent cheap either. they dont give you soda or at least not at any of the glucose tests I have had(or anyone else I know have had). its gross at any rate lol
... well then.. either way.. sounds like soda would be an all around winner regardless? lol.. i wonder how much sugar they put in the orange stuff
I dont know but its really NASTY a soda would have been a better replacement lol0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Ahh okay, double the soda, perhaps thats why.. LOL
I feel like they may of used soda years ago tho..unless i was just too young and misunderstood the person who said they got it done, maybe they used soda as a describing word lol..
I could be wrong. This was for the OGTT test. Maybe they use other amounts for shorter tests.nutmegoreo wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
See, this is the problem with suggesting someone should check their blood sugar levels when it's in absence of medical direction and interpretation. The average person isn't going to know enough about what the reading means or when to be concerned. This isn't a personal swipe at you, Christine.
Post consumption elevation of blood sugar is normal and expected, your body will produce insulin and drop it in response. How high that spike is and whether or not it is something to be concerned about is dependent on several factors. Having your doctor check your HbA1C and a glucose tolerance test will give a more complete picture than a single random blood sugar test.
That's why I find a glucometre to be a handy tool. You can test yourself repeatedly throughout the day, and make a point of testing after specific carbs that you want information about.
My endo said NOTHING to me about my slightly high OGTT and prediabetic tests except that it should be watched. I presume she meant she'll watch it as it goes higher. Relying just on doctor advice (on a FBG test or A1c) is not always in a person's best interests. Sometimes looking into it yourself is a good way to help yourself.
Honestly, it just sounds expensive, painful, and unnecessary. For someone who understands and can interpret the results and it's that important to them, then fine, but I think for the average person, it's overkill.
TBH, the thought of testing, and doing it the first time, was the scariest part. Testing is quick and just about completely painless.
Expensive is another matter. The meter is cheap, the replacement strips are expensive if doing testing multiple times per day on an ongoing basis.0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Ahh okay, double the soda, perhaps thats why.. LOL
I feel like they may of used soda years ago tho..unless i was just too young and misunderstood the person who said they got it done, maybe they used soda as a describing word lol..
it used to come in a glass bottle with a screw top. they have orange,cola and in some places another flavor cant remember what flavor. so yeah it kind of looked like an old soda bottle but fatter at the bottom.but yeah it didnt taste like soda, it tasted like orange flavored koolaid with about a half lb of sugar added.its syrupy or at least it was lol0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Ahh okay, double the soda, perhaps thats why.. LOL
I feel like they may of used soda years ago tho..unless i was just too young and misunderstood the person who said they got it done, maybe they used soda as a describing word lol..
I had to drink the sweet syrup stuff with both of my pregnancies, mine was green. This was 22 years ago, and i definitely wasnt soda. I was given the all clear.nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
See, this is the problem with suggesting someone should check their blood sugar levels when it's in absence of medical direction and interpretation. The average person isn't going to know enough about what the reading means or when to be concerned. This isn't a personal swipe at you, Christine.
Post consumption elevation of blood sugar is normal and expected, your body will produce insulin and drop it in response. How high that spike is and whether or not it is something to be concerned about is dependent on several factors. Having your doctor check your HbA1C and a glucose tolerance test will give a more complete picture than a single random blood sugar test.
@nutmegoreo I completely understand, and you're right, I wouldn't have the first clue how to decipher the numbers.
My Uncle recently died from complications of diabetes, and there's been a niggling voice in the back of my head ever since, and i have become much more interested in reading about peoples experiences on here re: diabetes. I should haul my butt into the doctors and get tested, just to ease my mind.0 -
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Here is a great place to learn to make your own healthy delicious breads, both sour dough and standard. The no knead method is pretty darned foolproof, just don't use the sour dough starter recipe using pineapple juice, it is WAY to complicated. He has videos etc. and the forums are interesting too.
http://breadtopia.com/
If you don't want to make sour dough starter from scratch you can order dried starter that you feed from breadtopia or from http://www.kingarthurflour.com/, the shop there has both dried and fresh starters.
Baking your own bread is a delight. Enjoy it.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Ahh okay, double the soda, perhaps thats why.. LOL
I feel like they may of used soda years ago tho..unless i was just too young and misunderstood the person who said they got it done, maybe they used soda as a describing word lol..
I had to drink the sweet syrup stuff with both of my pregnancies, mine was green. This was 22 years ago, and i definitely wasnt soda. I was given the all clear.nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
See, this is the problem with suggesting someone should check their blood sugar levels when it's in absence of medical direction and interpretation. The average person isn't going to know enough about what the reading means or when to be concerned. This isn't a personal swipe at you, Christine.
Post consumption elevation of blood sugar is normal and expected, your body will produce insulin and drop it in response. How high that spike is and whether or not it is something to be concerned about is dependent on several factors. Having your doctor check your HbA1C and a glucose tolerance test will give a more complete picture than a single random blood sugar test.
@nutmegoreo I completely understand, and you're right, I wouldn't have the first clue how to decipher the numbers.
My Uncle recently died from complications of diabetes, and there's been a niggling voice in the back of my head ever since, and i have become much more interested in reading about peoples experiences on here re: diabetes. I should haul my butt into the doctors and get tested, just to ease my mind.
I am sorry to hear about your uncle. Was he type 1 or type 2? I think I recall you saying that he didn't control it well, my apologies if I'm wrong. Absolutely, go get tested. It will help ease your mind. The success you've had with your weight loss is a bonus on your part. Watching others suffer ill effects from their health, particularly those related to lifestyle choices, can really play on your mind and make you wonder if you are doing everything you can. You could also ask to review your diet with a dietician. That may help put your mind at ease, or give you some ideas of changes.0 -
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Ahh okay, double the soda, perhaps thats why.. LOL
I feel like they may of used soda years ago tho..unless i was just too young and misunderstood the person who said they got it done, maybe they used soda as a describing word lol..
I had to drink the sweet syrup stuff with both of my pregnancies, mine was green. This was 22 years ago, and i definitely wasnt soda. I was given the all clear.nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
See, this is the problem with suggesting someone should check their blood sugar levels when it's in absence of medical direction and interpretation. The average person isn't going to know enough about what the reading means or when to be concerned. This isn't a personal swipe at you, Christine.
Post consumption elevation of blood sugar is normal and expected, your body will produce insulin and drop it in response. How high that spike is and whether or not it is something to be concerned about is dependent on several factors. Having your doctor check your HbA1C and a glucose tolerance test will give a more complete picture than a single random blood sugar test.
@nutmegoreo I completely understand, and you're right, I wouldn't have the first clue how to decipher the numbers.
My Uncle recently died from complications of diabetes, and there's been a niggling voice in the back of my head ever since, and i have become much more interested in reading about peoples experiences on here re: diabetes. I should haul my butt into the doctors and get tested, just to ease my mind.
I am sorry to hear about your uncle. Was he type 1 or type 2? I think I recall you saying that he didn't control it well, my apologies if I'm wrong. Absolutely, go get tested. It will help ease your mind. The success you've had with your weight loss is a bonus on your part. Watching others suffer ill effects from their health, particularly those related to lifestyle choices, can really play on your mind and make you wonder if you are doing everything you can. You could also ask to review your diet with a dietician. That may help put your mind at ease, or give you some ideas of changes.
He was type 2, and no he didn't have a diabetic friendly diet. His doctor predicted what was going to happen to him if he continued on as he was, and unfortunately, his prediction came true..0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »I have only one regret about how i handled my diabetes.
but you are still here and now know how to do it correctly. so theres that0 -
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Christine_72 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Ahh okay, double the soda, perhaps thats why.. LOL
I feel like they may of used soda years ago tho..unless i was just too young and misunderstood the person who said they got it done, maybe they used soda as a describing word lol..
I had to drink the sweet syrup stuff with both of my pregnancies, mine was green. This was 22 years ago, and i definitely wasnt soda. I was given the all clear.nutmegoreo wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »
That depends on the type of bread you are eating. White bread is but wholemeal and wholegrain bread are complex carbohydrates and don't cause these sugar spikes.
Bread wll; cause spikes in blood glucose. I haven't met a bread that doesn't.
Unless a person is diabetic or IR, this is not a problem. Yes it spikes, it also falls.
It will fall for T2Ds. Eventually.
But yes, BG spikes are mainly problems for those with metabolic problems. A high spike will hurt anyone's health though. That is why I recommended a glucometre.
If a person does not have a metabolic issue, there is no need to meter because their pancreas is working just fine to accommodate various BG levels.
If BG does not spike high, I agree, but how do you know your BG is not spiking high unless you've tested?
I'd like to do it just out of curiosity, just because i feel fine doesn't mean i am..
So if someone did a BG test and their numbers were higher than normal, but not prediabetic high, is this a warning sign of possible future problems with diabetes?
See, this is the problem with suggesting someone should check their blood sugar levels when it's in absence of medical direction and interpretation. The average person isn't going to know enough about what the reading means or when to be concerned. This isn't a personal swipe at you, Christine.
Post consumption elevation of blood sugar is normal and expected, your body will produce insulin and drop it in response. How high that spike is and whether or not it is something to be concerned about is dependent on several factors. Having your doctor check your HbA1C and a glucose tolerance test will give a more complete picture than a single random blood sugar test.
@nutmegoreo I completely understand, and you're right, I wouldn't have the first clue how to decipher the numbers.
My Uncle recently died from complications of diabetes, and there's been a niggling voice in the back of my head ever since, and i have become much more interested in reading about peoples experiences on here re: diabetes. I should haul my butt into the doctors and get tested, just to ease my mind.
I am sorry to hear about your uncle. Was he type 1 or type 2? I think I recall you saying that he didn't control it well, my apologies if I'm wrong. Absolutely, go get tested. It will help ease your mind. The success you've had with your weight loss is a bonus on your part. Watching others suffer ill effects from their health, particularly those related to lifestyle choices, can really play on your mind and make you wonder if you are doing everything you can. You could also ask to review your diet with a dietician. That may help put your mind at ease, or give you some ideas of changes.
He was type 2, and no he didn't have a diabetic friendly diet. His doctor predicted what was going to happen to him if he continued on as he was, and unfortunately, his prediction came true..
I am sorry for your loss, and that it's been weighing on you. Go see your doc and a dietician. :flowerforyou:1 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Yeah lol
Irreversible damage though. Or at least it is so far.
Going to be a year of laser treatments on my legs before i know for sure if the skin can be fixed or not.
sorry you have to deal with that. but hindsight and all that. hope it can be fixed0 -
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OP was not concerned about BG levels affecting their health. They had heard that insulin spikes cause your body to store fat. Which isn't true. So they can just continue eating their bread, no need to jump to unnecessary conclusions.3
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Christine_72 wrote: »
@nutmegoreo I completely understand, and you're right, I wouldn't have the first clue how to decipher the numbers.
My Uncle recently died from complications of diabetes, and there's been a niggling voice in the back of my head ever since, and i have become much more interested in reading about peoples experiences on here re: diabetes. I should haul my butt into the doctors and get tested, just to ease my mind.
Christine, it definitely would not be a bad idea to get tested. Peace of mind is a good thing.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »
Honestly, it just sounds expensive, painful, and unnecessary. For someone who understands and can interpret the results and it's that important to them, then fine, but I think for the average person, it's overkill.
TBH, the thought of testing, and doing it the first time, was the scariest part. Testing is quick and just about completely painless.
Expensive is another matter. The meter is cheap, the replacement strips are expensive if doing testing multiple times per day on an ongoing basis.
If you are this concerned, you should just go and get an a1c at your doctor's and see what your 3 month average blood glucose is. Why go through all the expense of multiple glucometer testing which doesn't give you the complete picture.
One more time: it does NOT matter how high your BG spikes, as long as your body responds properly with insulin spikes to bring it down. Any doctor worth his/her salt will do a serum glucose test as part of regular labs like lipids, etc. THAT will tell if any additional testing is warranted. If it stays high or you have an average high (which can only be determined by an a1c) you have a problem. Neither of which can be properly determined by a glucometer. There is a reason why diabetics not on insulin are told to only test once a day in the morning after fasting overnight.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »
Honestly, it just sounds expensive, painful, and unnecessary. For someone who understands and can interpret the results and it's that important to them, then fine, but I think for the average person, it's overkill.
TBH, the thought of testing, and doing it the first time, was the scariest part. Testing is quick and just about completely painless.
Expensive is another matter. The meter is cheap, the replacement strips are expensive if doing testing multiple times per day on an ongoing basis.
If you are this concerned, you should just go and get an a1c at your doctor's and see what your 3 month average blood glucose is. Why go through all the expense of multiple glucometer testing which doesn't give you the complete picture.
One more time: it does NOT matter how high your BG spikes, as long as your body responds properly with insulin spikes to bring it down. Any doctor worth his/her salt will do a serum glucose test as part of regular labs like lipids, etc. THAT will tell if any additional testing is warranted. If it stays high or you have an average high (which can only be determined by an a1c) you have a problem. Neither of which can be properly determined by a glucometer. There is a reason why diabetics not on insulin are told to only test once a day in the morning after fasting overnight.
I think my glucometer testing gives a very complete picture. I know exactly when my BG is higher than I would like, and what causes it. It's a bit expensive but its my health. If I am going to spend money on something, health is a good choice for me.
I understand what you are saying, but I think you are incorrect. High BG, even if insulin brings it down quickly (like it does for me) is damaging. If it stays high, that's more damaging. If it is high often, and stays high often, that is the most damaging. I think people should shoot for no damage at all.
How high your BG is, whether it stays high, and what foods caused the high, can all be shown by a glucometere. That is its function. A doctor ordered lab won't tell you that. It's giving some control and responsibility to the patient. For those who want less responsibility, or choose to just trust in doctors, then a trip to the doctor and a couple of tests may satisfy them and tell them enough. It won't tell them how bread affects their BG in the 2 hours after eating it.
Don't get me wrong. I am not testing all the time. I have not tested for days since nothing is new. If I want to try a new food, I'll test. It was a homemade banana coconut flour muffin last week that I checked. I also checked a few FBGs. About 6 test strips last week. None so far ths week.
A glucometre is just a tool. A continuous glucose monitor to try for a couple of weeks would be fascinating. To see exactly how BG is affected by stress, exercise, and what it does at night would be a wealth of information. I know Peter Attia does this.
I also realize that some people would not be interested in knowing more. They might not want that tool. That;s fine. It doesn't mean there is a problem with the tool though. That person just does not want to use the tool or has no interest in learning what o do with the information it gives. That's fine. To each their own.2 -
you could figure out if this is true for yourself.. since the diet fad of the 80s was high-carb/low-fat and people somehow managed to lose weight despite those pesky simple carbs causing their bodies to store fat.0 -
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psuLemon wrote:
The bigger question is, who eats white bread. That stuff taste like crap. Now potato bread or a pumpernickel bread is where it's at. Although, I am a huge fan of multigrain breads as well. So many good breads and white bread is not even in the category.
I have eaten white bread whole of my life
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psuLemon wrote:
The bigger question is, who eats white bread. That stuff taste like crap. Now potato bread or a pumpernickel bread is where it's at. Although, I am a huge fan of multigrain breads as well. So many good breads and white bread is not even in the category.
I have eaten white bread whole of my life
Ill chalk it up to being young. But expand your horizons on breads. There are so many good ones out there. 0
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