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Skinny vs fit
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TresaAswegan wrote: »I'm not sure how to feel about the "thick fit" thing. I mean it's fine to not want to be super lean.
But it's not really an obtainable goal for most women, as those girls are seriously #blessed to be storing their extra fat in all the right places.
(Meanwhile I have basically no boobs and a lot of extra belly, so any extra thickness does not look great on me, except maybe for my butt...)
Yeah, I don't call that thick fit. Don't get me wrong, she's a lovely looking woman but she got there through genetics, makeup, and photoshop.
I'd look like a sloppy bag of potatoes at that size.6 -
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Before my last weight gain, Thick fit was probably the best description for me. My weight bounced between 175 and 180lbs. I competed in sprint triathlons and generally came in the top 30%. I played full tackle football (ironman style). In 8 years of playing, I had 2 sprain ankles, 1 dislocated finger and one case of bursitis in my shoulder from a bad fall, even with my positions being Running back and middle linebacker (also played on every special team). I could bench press my weight, my squat max was about 275lbs and dead lift was at around 350lbs. I loved hitting a bikram yoga class twice a week and had no issue hitting all the poses.
I also actually had a healthy waist to hip ratio, blood pressure was on the low side of the healthy range, cholesterol levels were perfect, resting heart rate in the athletic range. Heck, even my body fat composition was still considered average at 28% (hydro static tested). But my BMI still had me sitting at the high end of overweight and I still wore a size 14.
Fit to me is having a good level of aerobic / anaerobic conditioning, sufficient strength and mobility to deal with the activities of daily living with ease while minimizing the risk of injury.
This is my definition as well. It's also my main goal on my journey. I don't really care how much weight I lose or how skinny I get. I just wanna get back to doing all those crazy active things I used to do and not wake up feeling like I got hit by a mack truck the next morning.
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i was in a gathering of dancers, they all have great bodies and relatively attractive faces but the one that separates those real attractive ones will depend on their maturity, gracefulness, and overall outlook in life.3
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Call me old fashioned but I don't see how plus size modelling is any better than using under-weight models.
In my eyes - both are positively reinforce a poor overall health and I think that the same as there are regulations with regards to models being underweight now, the same should be applied to over-weight.
That isn't me shaming anybody, it's me saying that I think that a model should be a model of health - something to aspire to, neither overweight or underweight are particularly healthy aspirations.
That's purely in reference to the above photos.
Anyway, for me.
It's personal preference, we all have preferences - both for own bodies and for the people we look for in a partner or general attraction.
I've always preferred Athletic/Lean girls but that ties in quite nicely because - I'm athletic and lean myself so, I guess it figures!
Additional note - The term 'skinny' irritates me in general, I don't see how it's descriptive of anything or anybody. Then again, I have so many bugbears with so much of todays popular terminology!8 -
To me a fit body is very sexy. A skinny body is just...meh, skinny.0
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Lots of things can make someone attractive. And different people will like/prefer different things. I do think fit (depending on how you define that because it's such a subject term) is the prevailing trend right now, but I'm probably biased because I typically run in more fitness oriented circles.1
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Life's a *kitten* and then you die. That's all I know.1
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Skinny vs fit? That's like peanut butter vs jelly. Milli vs Vanilli. Why can't we have both?1
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Because it's better than calling someone "fat" or "overweight"??? Seems like there are 100 terms now that mean similar but are more politically correct?
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Forget politically correct. I get so tired of having to be careful with words because it might offend someone. Now, for sure not going to go out and be rude and disrespectful intentionally. Absolutely not. But if there is an "opinion" question then I am going to voice my opinion and if someone is offended - and I feel like I stated things correctly and properly - then too bad!
Having said all that........
What looks good to one person may or may not look good to someone else. We are all different. We all like different things. I like Sweet Potatoe Pie and my brother likes Pumpkin Pie. Give one of us the wrong one and we will *NOT* be happy campers.
I have - with one exception - dated very fit and athletic women. But the one who did not look like all of the others was the one I would be with in a heartbeat. She was - BY FAR - the most attractive. To me! There is so much more than the physical. Yes, a nice butt and great hamstrings will definitely get my attention. But, does she keep my attention? With her personality (yes, I went there)? With her smile? With the sparkle in her eyes? With her laugh? With the way she moves? Her confidence? And, our chemsitry. Sometimes the "hawt chick" and you click. Sometimes it is her goofy friend that was for some reason catches your eye and BAM! You never know.
But, fit vs. skinny is the question. We have all *kinda* digressed from that.
I think that there is a somewhat accepted notion of what "skinny" is and of what "fit" is. Will it vary from person to person? Of course. But, generally speaking, I think that we all know the difference. We are - and here I go again - too worried about saying the wrong thing so we all temper what we say. Just my experience and my opinion.
I stick with "be respectful but be honest....and do not be intentionally mean or hurtful".2 -
It's all relative. Different people have different ideals of beauty. For myself personally, I consider myself most beautiful when I'm lifting - I feel strong, empowered and although some may consider my legs large and waist not tiny enough, I love my body. However this does NOT mean that I judge anyone else if they are not *fit*. I think thin, skinny, curvy, tall, broad...all look good on other people. I know girls who are bigger and carry themselves better than I could ever carry myself. They look gorgeous and confident and beautiful in every way. It's all relative.2
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@peaceout_aly ...... well said. And, agreed. I think that it is so very awesome that YOU feel strong and empowered....regardless of what others might think. That is the true essence of confidence and beauty!0
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cwolfman13 wrote: »RonnieTiajuana wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »This is what I lean towards...
I am pretty sure every guy leans toward that, as well as lots of women! lol
Nah...like I said in my post, my best friend likes his women rail thin...no curves, no muscles, etc. Michelle here would be too "big" for his tastes...clavicles aren't sticking out.
Yeah, I had a guy friend that liked his women rail thin. Most of his girlfriends look anorexic to me (and at least one actually was).1 -
FitLaughLove wrote: »Is fit really the new skinny?
In a marketing sense? Probably as it is simply an excuse to promote a certain "look" to flog crap that most people don't need.
Fit to me is having a good level of aerobic / anaerobic conditioning, sufficient strength and mobility to deal with the activities of daily living with ease while minimising the risk of injury.
The way that makes me end up looking is secondary.
I like this definition of 'fit' well enough.
And while I understand that a phrase like "fit is the new skinny" isn't positing that those two things - fit, skinny - are extremes on the same linear evaluative scale, much of the follow-on discussion seems a bit muddled about that.
Skinny and fat might be extremes on the same line; fit and unfit - however difficult to define - might be extremes on another scale entirely. Theyre not parallel, let alone equivaent.
While it's difficult to be fit while extremely fat or skinny, it's possible to be reasonably fit - per the definition quoted - within quite a broad range of body weight . . . or, to be quite unfit at anywhere on that scale.
By objective measures - resting heart rate, ability to sustain any given higher working heart rate for X amount of time, ability to lift X pounds, best rowing machine 500-meter split or 2K race time - my BMI 20 self and BMI 30 self put up very similar numbers (which were not terrible for my age group in either case). The big difference is that now more people think I look fit. So, looking fit <> being fit.
But attractiveness? Attractiveness has to be a multidimensional evaluative space, not linear at all, and pretty much observer-specific. Marketing-friendly appearance is a yet different evaluation space.
Personally, I tend to find people attractive in quite a range of body types, as long as they're intelligent, thoughtful, of good character, and fit enough to do routine things (like walk around all day at an arts festival without stressing). Marketing-wise, I want to see how clothes would look on me, so models should be li'l ol' ladies.
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nomorepuke wrote: »Runway models used to define what sexy was. Not anymore. Petite and fit girls who show off their booty and boobies are the new sexy
no they never did...not for the viewer anyway.
For example most men I know care more about confidence not what we "show" and trust me showing your *kitten* doesn't make you confident so petite fit girls who show it all aren't any more attractive.
Maybe to other girls (not girls not women)
Sexy is about how you carry yourself not weight or what you can show the world.1 -
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are as many different tastes in body styles and types as there are people. I try to just focus on being healthy and let the rest work itself out.1
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