The age old "You can't target areas of fat, lifting" BS!
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He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.0 -
Look if I didn't put BS in the title, no one would have commented.1
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Sort of off topic, but I follow a girl who is sub 15% body fat (per bod pod test) and hardly has striations/shreds at all. Having a solid muscle base makes a huge difference.2
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TresaAswegan wrote: »Sort of off topic, but I follow a girl who is sub 15% body fat (per bod pod test) and hardly has striations/shreds at all. Having a solid muscle base makes a huge difference.
That's kind of funny because I was about to post something similar...my buddies ex is rail thin and has about nothing for body fat...or muscle. She has no striations...1 -
He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.2 -
so you are using a n=1 sample size to dispute proven science?8
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Tacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?0 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
genetics4 -
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?genetics
Are we guessing? Cuz I've seen his parents.0 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
The same way the next person loses from their legs or arms first...0 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
geneticsTacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
geneticsTacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
genetics
Are we guessing? Cuz I've seen his parents.
No, seriously. Different people gain/lose in certain areas sooner/later than others. And remember that our genetic material is passed down through generations upon generations, not just from parent to child.7 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
Genetics...I lose fat from my extremities first...then my neck...then my face, etc.2 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
geneticsTacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
geneticsTacklewasher wrote: »He does what he calls cardio benching, 135 lbs for 4 to 6 fatigue sets in a row. We're talking 75 reps first set then it dwindles down, 300-400 total reps. Chest starting to show striations now. I've done his chest routine with him and 225 lbs til you reach 250 reps. I thought I was gonna die,lol.
Like over training a certain muscle, been watching too much CT Fletcher.
Why is he only training one muscle group? And why the high reps? Didn't think more than 20 reps per set (which is usually at a lower weight) was necessary and was considered overtraining.
He works everything just over trains some things cuz those are his favs. He consider tris and calves a major muscle group too,lol.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first is all. That's why the muscles are showing there more than other areas. I'm not working out much (beginner weights is all) but have lost most of my fat where my collar bones are. Still have a 44W though. Just the way things are. If I could target, I'd target my belly first.
So he loses fat from his shoulders and chest first.....why?
genetics
Are we guessing? Cuz I've seen his parents.
nope...some people lose fat from certain areas faster than others do from other areas...
not sure why that is such a difficult concept to grasp...
take your argument and flip it around. if spot training is not a myth then we can't we all just reduce fat from where we want?4 -
As a matter of fact I've seen his uncles,aunts, grand parents. I know this cuz he's my brother. We are same height 6'3 but a different type of genetic, he got equal from both sides, I got my father's side.
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So, you worked out with "a guy," that now happens to be your brother, that does 75-rep sets of 135 on bench?
Yes, I do believe BS is in the air.10 -
Lifting increases muscle, it does next to nothing for fat.5
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TavistockToad wrote: »
But it's a fun topic to discuss. Unless I offend someone's nutritional manhood.-1 -
And adding to that, you've tracked the weight loss progress of the entire family tree and taken note of where each person loses fat first?
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So, you worked out with "a guy," that now happens to be your brother, that does 75-rep sets of 135 on bench?
Yes, I do believe BS is in the air.
I put BS in the topic because had I not, there wouldn't be this much response. But as for BS on him being my brother, it was because a question about genetics or if you doubt he is strong then I wonder why. I must have touched on a nerve or something. You doubt 75 rep because you power lift? Yeah I did it for twelve years and....-1 -
As a matter of fact I've seen his uncles,aunts, grand parents. I know this cuz he's my brother. We are same height 6'3 but a different type of genetic, he got equal from both sides, I got my father's side.
Unless your mother and father are hanging out on the same branch of the family tree, that is not possible.
The fact that you look or act like your dad more than a mix of your dad and mom doesn't mean that you got your father's genes and that's it. Genetics is way too complex to be visible to the naked eye in that way.7 -
As a matter of fact I've seen his uncles,aunts, grand parents. I know this cuz he's my brother. We are same height 6'3 but a different type of genetic, he got equal from both sides, I got my father's side.
Unless your mother and father are hanging out on the same branch of the family tree, that is not possible.
The fact that you look or act like your dad more than a mix of your dad and mom doesn't mean that you got your father's genes and that's it. Genetics is way too complex to be visible to the naked eye in that way.
I laughed uncontrollably at that.9 -
I worked out with a guy that was over weight, 335 lbs. Didn't do the typical cardio or diet thing. Weight still the same now but he has been blasting his shoulders with super hi reps and is strong as hell. His shoulders have striations front and back but every where else is the same as before. So to say you can't target certain areas and lose fat in that specific area seems bogus.
I'm not the Sci-fi nutrition guy, so I just wanted to know. If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it myself.
He was probably in recomp and your extremities are generally the first place far leaves, he also may have increased the total muscle in that area through supersets resulting in enough muscle to show definition.
Deadlifts require the entire body to preform right? Well quite a few of us do them weekly yet we still have fat stores. They destroy my obliques and lats yet those are areas with higher fat concentrations for me.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »
Interesting. I'm not sure 2 studies that focused on arms only would constitute 'proved' but it is interesting data.
Nothing in science can be proved. We haven't even been able to prove that the sun will rise tomorrow, never mind that fat can't be spot reduced. We'll just have to be satisfied knowing that all of the available evidence tells us both things are true.3 -
Lol, good answers.0
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As a matter of fact I've seen his uncles,aunts, grand parents. I know this cuz he's my brother. We are same height 6'3 but a different type of genetic, he got equal from both sides, I got my father's side.
Unless you're identical twins, you only share 50 % of your genes (out of those that vary) with your brother.0 -
Gotcha. Still seems weird that the fat disappeared from his shoulders and no where else while replacing fat in that area with muscle while staying the same weight. Too see striations on one body part and no where else is weird. I personally have striations in different places while maintaining my 2 pak. My fat is mostly in the belly with a thin layer all over while being considered obese with a BMI of 30. I am 6'3 255 lbs,
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Gotcha. Still seems weird that the fat disappeared from his shoulders and no where else while replacing fat in that area with muscle while staying the same weight. Too see striations on one body part and no where else is weird. I personally have striations in different places while maintaining my 2 pak. My fat is mostly in the belly with a thin layer all over while being considered obese with a BMI of 30. I am 6'3 255 lbs,
you just answered your own question.
If spot reduction was a myth then you should be able to s pot reduce from the areas that you want to, but you can't, because spot reduction is not a thing.4 -
So you build muscle in a certain area that's fat. It's still there just spread out over a larger muscle now. I'm just messing with ya. We are heavy lifters and heavy people. He's more of a super heavy weight and I'm just a heavy weight in power lifting.
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