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JB035
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Okay then. I'm not going to deny I'm hardheaded! Haha
Eating a strict clean diet does suck for the most part. Looking back through my diary, I'm pretty much eating like IIFYM anyways. Occasional stuff here and there through out the weeks as long as it fits in my Macros. Some days I miss my goal and some days I go over, not sure how that plays out in the grand scheme of putting on muscle.
Ultimately I can eat a pretty good amount of food, as long as it's planned out and prepared. If not I will eat what ever the quickest. The problem with eating what ever is the cals jump up real high real quick, leaving less for the remainder of the day.
So this is my questions:
Are Protein, Carbs and Fats still important? You know what I mean... if you don't hit your base % numbers but get your cals, is it still the same?
Should it just add 200-300 cals or 1000?
Eating a strict clean diet does suck for the most part. Looking back through my diary, I'm pretty much eating like IIFYM anyways. Occasional stuff here and there through out the weeks as long as it fits in my Macros. Some days I miss my goal and some days I go over, not sure how that plays out in the grand scheme of putting on muscle.
Ultimately I can eat a pretty good amount of food, as long as it's planned out and prepared. If not I will eat what ever the quickest. The problem with eating what ever is the cals jump up real high real quick, leaving less for the remainder of the day.
So this is my questions:
Are Protein, Carbs and Fats still important? You know what I mean... if you don't hit your base % numbers but get your cals, is it still the same?
Should it just add 200-300 cals or 1000?
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Protein, Carbs and Fats are the MACRO part of IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macros). So, yes, they are important if that is the eating plan you are choosing. If you are just going for a total caloric deficit, and not IIFYM, then no, they don't matter.
I don't understand the second question.3 -
Yes all macros are important, but meeting your daily calorie requirement is going to be what gets you to your ultimate goal (losing, maintaining, gaining). Macros are important for body composition. That being said you want to make sure you hit your protein and fats, but carbs can vary since they are mostly for energy.
Not sure what you are asking with the last question.1 -
not sure what the question is..
must be a slow day on bb.com2 -
Okay then. I'm not going to deny I'm hardheaded! Haha
Eating a strict clean diet does suck for the most part. Looking back through my diary, I'm pretty much eating like IIFYM anyways. Occasional stuff here and there through out the weeks as long as it fits in my Macros. Some days I miss my goal and some days I go over, not sure how that plays out in the grand scheme of putting on muscle.
Ultimately I can eat a pretty good amount of food, as long as it's planned out and prepared. If not I will eat what ever the quickest. The problem with eating what ever is the cals jump up real high real quick, leaving less for the remainder of the day.
So this is my questions:
Are Protein, Carbs and Fats still important? You know what I mean... if you don't hit your base % numbers but get your cals, is it still the same?
Should it just add 200-300 cals or 1000?
No, it is not the same and thinking that it was stalled me for ages. Your body reacts differently to the different macros. Also, fats should be higher on low carb days and vice versa. To get a better understanding google "carb cycling".1 -
I'm not even sure what your goal is.
Are you wanting to build muscle?
Or are you wanting to drop weight?0 -
Ultimately when bulking, calories are king. However, you want to make sure you get a certain minimum of macros, these are the building blocks of muscle and body function, gym performance etc..
The recommendation I go by, grams per lean body mass:
Protein: .8 to 1g
Fats: .35 to .6g
Carbs: The rest
So while don't have to hit them exactly, you should at least aim for the minimum for optimal results.
When you say you miss your goal, do you miss your calorie goal or macros? I would say try your best to hit your calorie goal otherwise you may find yourself slowly slipping into maintenance and not bulking. This isn't great if your goal is to gain.3 -
@RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
Goal is to gain muscle and to not put on a bunch of fat while doing it.0 -
@joemac1988
I'm not looking to carb cycle.
I'm wanting to find a consistent way of eating that builds muscle with minimal to zero fat gains and is simple and sustainable. If that's even possible. Haha0 -
That is what I adjusted to as of last night.
Currently 5' 7" and 168 pounds looking to get to 175 with 12%to 13% bf and then maintain.
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Fat gain is an inevitability of bulking. You can minimise it by doing a slower bulk I believe/more of a recomp.1
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Well zero fat gains while bulking isn't going to be possible unfortunately! (Unless you are recomping where you can gain muscle and lose fat over a longer period of time.. but depending on your goals and how lean you are right now, this may not be something you are interested in). But when bulking, best way to control fat gains is to keep your surplus smaller (<0.5-1lb gained per week) and being sure to follow a program with progressive overload. And if you do it right, you shouldn't have too much to cut after. I have seen a lot of successful bulkers keep their abs no problem (especially if they started pretty lean). Is this your first bulk? If it is, it is always the hardest, once you build a good muscle foundation it gets easier and the fat gain gets less noticeable (sometimes.. you also become more of a perfectionist )
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So you want to recomp. Maybe your questions are answered in this thread.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10177803/recomposition-maintaining-weight-while-losing-fat/p11 -
Goal is to gain muscle and to not put on a bunch of fat while doing it.
It's not possible to gain muscle and not put on any fat.
Here's a very detailed read that may be worth your while: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/general-philosophies-of-muscle-mass-gain.html/3 -
@RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
Goal is to gain muscle and to not put on a bunch of fat while doing it.
not possible. For males it is about a 50/50 ratio fat to muscle gain ..so for every pound you add, you will add a half pound of muscle and a half pound of fat0 -
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@VintageFeline
Hatch Squat Program 2 days a week
3 days per week a Progressive loading upper body Program of my own.
Once or twice a week I'll throw in a metcon of my own making.
For example:
5 Rounds
10 deadlifts @ 185
10 Handstand Push Ups
10 cal row
10 power snatch's @ 95
10 chest to bar
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