What do you count as "water"?
frankpappalardo
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Sorry, I'm sure this is posted somewhere but I can't find it...
If I have 8 oz of coffee, do I check off 1 water? What about tea, beer, wine, soup, etc?
If I have 8 oz of coffee, do I check off 1 water? What about tea, beer, wine, soup, etc?
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frankpappalardo wrote: »Sorry, I'm sure this is posted somewhere but I can't find it...
If I have 8 oz of coffee, do I check off 1 water? What about tea, beer, wine, soup, etc?
I only log plain water as water. Other fluids such as tea, coffee, juice, I log with the relevant meals.7 -
I count coffee, diet soda, tea, watery veg...4
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Just keep hydrated - there's no need to make this unnecessarily overly complicated with ridiculous rules. I don't track water because I keep plenty hydrated through a variety of liquids and foods. Just be sure to log the calories of anything that has them. I might not count the beer/wine or other alcohol because they can dehydrate you but the others are fine.5
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I was taught that besides water, tea and coffee only counts if you drink it plain, i.e. no sugar, no cream, no honey etc... All other liquids does not count towards the daily water intake. For my body that seems to be the accurate way of counting due to very tangible fluctuations whenever I go low on any of those three despite drinking/eating(e.g. water based soups) that should have compensated for the glasses of water/tea/coffee I have not had.
Personally I don't count the calories for tea since it's only 5 and I oftentimes are a couple of hundred below target.1 -
If I drink it I count it.0
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I was taught that besides water, tea and coffee only counts if you drink it plain, i.e. no sugar, no cream, no honey etc... All other liquids does not count towards the daily water intake. For my body that seems to be the accurate way of counting due to very tangible fluctuations whenever I go low on any of those three despite drinking/eating(e.g. water based soups) that should have compensated for the glasses of water/tea/coffee I have not had.
Makes no sense whatsoever. They're still composed of 99.9% water. If I put steak sauce on my steak, do I no longer have to log it as a steak because I put something else on it? Of course you still have to log and account for the calories if it's a calorific drink, but the fact that it has calories doesn't mean that it doesn't contribute to your hydration needs.13 -
That whole "drink 8 glasses a day stuff" is nonsense. You get water in food and other drinks. Drink when you're thirsty.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/upshot/no-you-do-not-have-to-drink-8-glasses-of-water-a-day.html6 -
I was taught that besides water, tea and coffee only counts if you drink it plain, i.e. no sugar, no cream, no honey etc... All other liquids does not count towards the daily water intake. For my body that seems to be the accurate way of counting due to very tangible fluctuations whenever I go low on any of those three despite drinking/eating(e.g. water based soups) that should have compensated for the glasses of water/tea/coffee I have not had.
Makes no sense whatsoever. They're still composed of 99.9% water. If I put steak sauce on my steak, do I no longer have to log it as a steak because I put something else on it? Of course you still have to log and account for the calories if it's a calorific drink, but the fact that it has calories doesn't mean that it doesn't contribute to your hydration needs.
Spot on.1 -
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I drink distilled or purified water with Great Value Sugar Free Drink Mixes and it works quite well.
Failed too many times in the past to fail again because of hydration.
I count my 4 1/2 liter bottles of water everyday its just that its got flavor in it.0 -
Makes no sense whatsoever. They're still composed of 99.9% water. If I put steak sauce on my steak, do I no longer have to log it as a steak because I put something else on it? Of course you still have to log and account for the calories if it's a calorific drink, but the fact that it has calories doesn't mean that it doesn't contribute to your hydration needs.
As I mentioned, for my body that is how it works. It may be different for anyone. And sure liquid in general should count, but the body is a funny thing, and does not follow logic. It may just be one of those things that differs from person to person. The question was "What do you count as water?" So there is no need to go to attack and be rude or angry about how I count MY water.3 -
That whole "drink 8 glasses a day stuff" is nonsense. You get water in food and other drinks. Drink when you're thirsty.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/upshot/no-you-do-not-have-to-drink-8-glasses-of-water-a-day.html
That is true, but in my case I forget to drink all together. I rarely feel thirst. Before I started "counting" water, I only drank 1-2 glasses of any liquid per day. I never felt thirsty, just hungry, or lightheaded. By counting the glasses, I'm easier getting more water, which in turn also have taken away many of my cravings for snacks and foods.5 -
I don't keep track of my water but it includes coffee, tea, water, coke zero, fruit juice, sports drink ...2
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Makes no sense whatsoever. They're still composed of 99.9% water. If I put steak sauce on my steak, do I no longer have to log it as a steak because I put something else on it? Of course you still have to log and account for the calories if it's a calorific drink, but the fact that it has calories doesn't mean that it doesn't contribute to your hydration needs.
As I mentioned, for my body that is how it works. It may be different for anyone. And sure liquid in general should count, but the body is a funny thing, and does not follow logic. It may just be one of those things that differs from person to person. The question was "What do you count as water?" So there is no need to go to attack and be rude or angry about how I count MY water.
Nah @AnvilHead is right, Its silly not to count something like tea if it has cream...even cream is a liquid... But they werent attacking you, Simply pointing out the silly8 -
Thanks all! This is helpful. I hope to get to a point where I don't have to count, but for now I want to shoot for that magic 8 cups and see what happens. From my experience, if I only drink when I feel thirsty I fall way short of that, even if I do count coffee.0
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Makes no sense whatsoever. They're still composed of 99.9% water. If I put steak sauce on my steak, do I no longer have to log it as a steak because I put something else on it? Of course you still have to log and account for the calories if it's a calorific drink, but the fact that it has calories doesn't mean that it doesn't contribute to your hydration needs.
As I mentioned, for my body that is how it works. It may be different for anyone. And sure liquid in general should count, but the body is a funny thing, and does not follow logic. It may just be one of those things that differs from person to person. The question was "What do you count as water?" So there is no need to go to attack and be rude or angry about how I count MY water.
No, your body isn't rejecting water because it has other things in it. You can log it however you like. I promise nobody is concerned with your logging preferences. But tea is water (plain or not), coffee is water (plain or not), soda is water, juice is water, flavored water is water, carbonated water is water. You said what you were taught. AnvilHead is just letting you know that you were taught wrong.11 -
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I find it interesting that people would log coffee and tea differently than they do plain water. If you swallow some dry instant coffee crystals and then drink a cup of hot water, your body can't tell a difference from putting the crystals in a cup of hot water and drinking that.7
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As a nurse, when completing fluid balance charts all liquid counts right down to yoghurt or custard.
But in documenting we will differentiate the type of fluid, method in (IV infusion, orally etc).
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As an individual I only count my water as water.
I do take mental note of other fluids I've taken though, such as tea or coffee, alcohol etc - but I don't put those fluid amounts towards my personal water goals.5 -
The only thing i count as water is plain water. If the only fluids i get are from tea and coffee i can feel noticeable water retention that evening and into the next day. But if i also drink a couple Litres of water, I'm fine and have no problems.1
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When I started out on MFP (in winter) I logged water, tea and coffee as water (those being nearly everything I drank). Now that it's summer I only log water, because I find I need eight glasses of actual plain water to stay hydrated. I don't care too deeply about it, though.0
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TimothyFish wrote: »I find it interesting that people would log coffee and tea differently than they do plain water. If you swallow some dry instant coffee crystals and then drink a cup of hot water, your body can't tell a difference from putting the crystals in a cup of hot water and drinking that.
I drink a cup of tea with my breakfast and log it as part of breakfast.
I drink various juices with my lunch and log them as part of lunch.
I drink either coffee or juice with dinner and log them as part of dinner.
I may possibly have coffee during the morning at work and log this under snacks (items consumed apart from my three main meals)
None of this counts as water for me, although I can see how it helps with hydration.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »I find it interesting that people would log coffee and tea differently than they do plain water. If you swallow some dry instant coffee crystals and then drink a cup of hot water, your body can't tell a difference from putting the crystals in a cup of hot water and drinking that.
I found this on webmd. "Although tea contains only about one-third the caffeine found in coffee, preliminary studies show that the caffeine may actually help to increase tea's cancer-protection effects. Caffeine is a diuretic and stimulates urination, and you can actually get dehydrated by drinking too much tea or coffee -- so take it easy." So it appears it isn't the same as plain water after all, which hydrates you.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »I find it interesting that people would log coffee and tea differently than they do plain water. If you swallow some dry instant coffee crystals and then drink a cup of hot water, your body can't tell a difference from putting the crystals in a cup of hot water and drinking that.
I found this on webmd. "Although tea contains only about one-third the caffeine found in coffee, preliminary studies show that the caffeine may actually help to increase tea's cancer-protection effects. Caffeine is a diuretic and stimulates urination, and you can actually get dehydrated by drinking too much tea or coffee -- so take it easy." So it appears it isn't the same as plain water after all, which hydrates you.
That's pretty much earned the status of "old wives' tale." Whoever is quoted was just repeating the same conventional wisdom that was passed down to them.2 -
I stopped logging water and black coffee. I drink enough that I don't need to worry and my coffee is close enough to no calories to not bother.0
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TimothyFish wrote: »I find it interesting that people would log coffee and tea differently than they do plain water. If you swallow some dry instant coffee crystals and then drink a cup of hot water, your body can't tell a difference from putting the crystals in a cup of hot water and drinking that.
I drink a cup of tea with my breakfast and log it as part of breakfast.
I drink various juices with my lunch and log them as part of lunch.
I drink either coffee or juice with dinner and log them as part of dinner.
I may possibly have coffee during the morning at work and log this under snacks (items consumed apart from my three main meals)
None of this counts as water for me, although I can see how it helps with hydration.
Well, yes, you'd need to log anything with calories as a food, but you could also add it to water if you wanted. I don't log anything I drink because I have no cause to track fluids, and other than water I only drink diet beverages, black coffee and plain tea.0 -
Fine. I wont try to help anyone anymore. Happy?1
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