Let's try again...lolol and talk about fasting...the pros and the cons!!

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  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    jjpptt2 wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    OP, you should probably step back and take an objective look at what you're doing and saying. On one hand you claim that your methods are awesome and argue with anybody who tries to tell you otherwise. On the other hand you complain of looking "like a crackhead" every time you try to lean out.

    If the methods aren't getting the desired results, then the methods are faulty. Or to put it another way, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

    1.I never claimed my methods are awesome if I did please copy and paste my quote.
    2. I don't argue with other folks I simply disagree and open for insightful thoughts... and ideas
    3. I am aware that my methods are too strict sometimes never did I encourage my lifestyle and nutrition on nobody else.
    4. Over the span of days (less than a week)on a 2000kcal diet I will gain fat I hate gaining fat.
    5. 1800kcal daily limit to me is more than I need to function and get a kick as workout and on top of that add a 5 mile run
    6.1800kcal daily limit for me is what keeps me around 150-153lbs with some fat around my stomach and at 16% bf according to the BIA machine
    Thanks.

    But why? Fat can be lost and it's not fat over a few days it's your body filling out with some much needed calories. Suck it up and eat more for a few months, see what that does for you. I bet you'd be surprised at how full your muscles can get and how little fat you will actually gain. You're simply not gaining fat on a few days at 2,000 calories, if you are your hormones are so far jacked up that staying below 2,000 is going to result in long term damage.

    I don't know if you've ever been fat, but this is a good read:
    http://jcdfitness.com/2009/10/the-former-fat-boy-syndrome/

    OK thank you for the idea, yes I was fat 188-192lbs early 20s it was horrible

    5' 9" @ 190lbs... You are either exceptionally hard on yourself, OR you have an unhealthy perspective on what is lean/fat/etc.

    I'm 5 8, 180ish... and while I'm by no mean lean... I'm not fat either. And I carry ALL my excess weight in my torso and midsection.

    You clearly don't want to hear it, and you're obviously set in your ways/thinking... but you're not going to get much support around here. Threads like this will never get you anything you like. So the question is this: are all of us wrong, or do you need to take a step back and re-evaluate?

    5' 9" @ 170lbs and 10% BF is going to look very different than 5' 9" and 10% BF at 140lbs.


    Lastly, if I take your stats at face value, you've got ~24lbs of fat mass currently. To get to 10% BF, you'd have to drop 9lbs of JUST fat. That brings you to about 140lbs. Considering you'll lose some lean body mass with that fat, you'll probaby have to get closer to 135lbs to be at 10% BF. 5' 9" @ 135lbs... that ain't good.

    Totally and 100% agree. I'm 5'7" and cut down to about 162 restricting too much and did not like the way I looked. I actually went back up to about 172, lowered my bf% to that 10-13% range and felt a ton better. It took a ton of work and patience, but totally worth it.
  • rakowskidp
    rakowskidp Posts: 231 Member
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Totally and 100% agree. I'm 5'7" and cut down to about 162 restricting too much and did not like the way I looked. I actually went back up to about 172, lowered my bf% to that 10-13% range and felt a ton better. It took a ton of work and patience, but totally worth it.
    That's impressive! I'm slightly over 17% (5'6" and ~142 lbs.) and pretty happy, considering where I was a year ago.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    edited November 2017
    New article in AcSM describing how the body adapts to a new daily calorie intake, so you probably can build muscle at 1500kcal-1800kcal instead of 2300kcal and looking like the michelin man

    [Edited by MFP Staff]

    Dude, Most guys wouldn't gain a single Gram on 2300, much less Look Like the Michelin man...
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    edited November 2017
    New article in AcSM describing how the body adapts to a new daily calorie intake, so you probably can build muscle at 1500kcal-1800kcal instead of 2300kcal and looking like the michelin man

    [Edited by MFP Staff]

    Yea.. no. I am a woman and I wouldn't even maintain, nevermind gain on 2300. Ha.
  • ladyhusker39
    ladyhusker39 Posts: 1,406 Member
    I also suspect some sort of substance abuse going on here as well.
  • Niyab90
    Niyab90 Posts: 1 Member
    I enjoy fasting when i want to drop a few pounds really quickly.
  • alexrosader
    alexrosader Posts: 79 Member
    I also suspect some sort of substance abuse going on here as well.

    Only in your dreams!
  • WispyBlue
    WispyBlue Posts: 41 Member
    I used fast once a week or so but I grew up in a culture where we fast for spiritual reasons. And I guess I just got use to it. I like how I feel when I fast. I think fasting isn’t harmful as long as you’re eating appropriate calories the rest of the week. When I was fasting weekly, I ate 1,500 - 1,800 calories the rest of the week. But right now, I’m trying to lose weight, so I’m eating 1,200 calories a day and no longer fasting.
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