Let's try again...lolol and talk about fasting...the pros and the cons!!
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alexrosader
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150-152lbs
5'9
32 male
16%bf
Wanna get down to at least 10%
Current kcall daily I try not to break 1600
Protein calories about 1000kcal that's about 1lb and 4oz of chicken drumsticks and 2 or 3 harboiled eggs. The rest of calories come from bananas, apples ,oranges and hot chocolate daily in the morning. I try to eat all of the above mentioned by at least 3pm then break my fast again at 6am I also have one cheat day where I'll coname more carbs from fruits and quinoa beans brown rice adding up about 3000 then the next day I really don't eat anything and I feel great!! Barely any weight gain....anyone like fasting?
150-152lbs
5'9
32 male
16%bf
Wanna get down to at least 10%
Current kcall daily I try not to break 1600
Protein calories about 1000kcal that's about 1lb and 4oz of chicken drumsticks and 2 or 3 harboiled eggs. The rest of calories come from bananas, apples ,oranges and hot chocolate daily in the morning. I try to eat all of the above mentioned by at least 3pm then break my fast again at 6am I also have one cheat day where I'll coname more carbs from fruits and quinoa beans brown rice adding up about 3000 then the next day I really don't eat anything and I feel great!! Barely any weight gain....anyone like fasting?
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You don't gain weight because your are under eating not because you're fasting.
Your diet is severely deficient. Get help.15 -
Like I said in your other thread, I only fast for medical reasons.0
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Eat less than 20g net carbs per day (carbs minus fiber). Eat all the fat and protein you want. Joy ensues.8
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RemoteOutpost wrote: »Eat less than 20g net carbs per day (carbs minus fiber). Eat all the fat and protein you want. Joy ensues.
Why????3 -
So you fast from 3pm to 6am?
An you refeed once a week?
Are you just looking for other fasters, or is there a question?0 -
RemoteOutpost wrote: »Eat less than 20g net carbs per day (carbs minus fiber). Eat all the fat and protein you want. Joy ensues.
That would make me very sad. And completely irrelevant to fasting....6 -
RemoteOutpost wrote: »Eat less than 20g net carbs per day (carbs minus fiber). Eat all the fat and protein you want. Joy ensues.
Yeah, if I did that, gut cramps and a day on the toilet would ensue, not joy...3 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »You don't gain weight because your are under eating not because you're fasting.
Your diet is severely deficient. Get help.
This. I also told you in your other thread that you are under eating. I'm the same height as you, the same age as you, and at that body fat (which is around where I compete at) I'm 175 pounds. I'm also a woman and I don't go below 1600 when cutting. Ever.
You need to eat more. If your picture is current you should stop trying to lose weight for a while and fix your hormones. Eating 1600 calories followed by a 3,000 calorie binge and a ZERO calorie day isn't helping your hormones which in turn is making it so you are forced to eat less and less which in turn is destroying your lean mass. A true refeed for the deficit you are doing is going to be a few weeks long. You aren't improving your hormonal profile with a single day refeed followed by a complete fasting day.2 -
So you fast from 3pm to 6am?
An you refeed once a week?
Are you just looking for other fasters, or is there a question?
Looking for other fasters and would like stats, experience on how fasting has helped or not helped basically. I mention fasting and the whole room goes wild, maybe because there are a lot of "cookie monsters" or "snack craving" lunatics that mistake hunger for a lack of NOT DRINKING WATER OR STAYING PROPERLY HYDRATED4 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »You don't gain weight because your are under eating not because you're fasting.
Your diet is severely deficient. Get help.
This. I also told you in your other thread that you are under eating. I'm the same height as you, the same age as you, and at that body fat (which is around where I compete at) I'm 175 pounds. I'm also a woman and I don't go below 1600 when cutting. Ever.
You need to eat more. If your picture is current you should stop trying to lose weight for a while and fix your hormones. Eating 1600 calories followed by a 3,000 calorie binge and a ZERO calorie day isn't helping your hormones which in turn is making it so you are forced to eat less and less which in turn is destroying your lean mass. A true refeed for the deficit you are doing is going to be a few weeks long. You aren't improving your hormonal profile with a single day refeed followed by a complete fasting day.
I hover around 150-155 when bulking. To me a bulking diet consists of about 1500kcal-1800kcal ($pECIFIC FOR me because i am a small individual)Going up to 2000 calories makes me feel bloated even if I split up 2000 caories throughout the day and I don't even feEl like eating food after 3pm unless it's a fruit. I binge on natural foods NOT pizza or pasta or candy I've done that already last year and although it was great to have a day of eating candybars, oatmealwith honey, cookies crap like that I did gain some soft water retention around my gut and I don't like that. Now I cheat with fruits, brown rice, sweet potato, quinoa and it's not as bad as cheating with processed white starches. My picture is from about 3 weeks ago.
My hormones are fine my body has adapted.
I'm not going over 2000kcal daily if I do I will look like a water buffalo, or look like a soft polar bear, I'm not comfortable with that.3 -
Pros - You get to eat more food during the times you're not fasting.
Cons - You're hungry during the times you are fasting.4 -
I do a fairly standard 18:6 (ish) during the week... weekends are a crapshoot based on kids/family stuff. I typically work out either first thing in the morning, or on my lunch break, and I typically start eating mid-afternoon. I stop eating when I'm done eating... that could e 7pm, could be 10pm. I don't get crazy about the timing.
I'm 5' 8" and can be anywhere from 160-180 depending on goals and time of year.
I've been as low as 10.5% BF.
Hard cutting is 1800 cals per day, maintenance is around 2300. Both net. Both are reasonable approximations based on how I estimate/log.
It hasn't done anything special for me... but it lines up well with my natural preferences (I prefer to work out fasted, I prefer to eat more in the evenings, I prefer bigger meals and feeling full) and I like having the degree of structure it gives.1 -
I presume that you are fasting long hours daily to convert your body into burning fat and not sugar. It appears that you lack nutrients. I would eat Dr Joel Fuhrman's GBOMBS diet. Bitter greens, collards, kale, turnip tops, watercress. Onions. Mushrooms. Beans. Berries. Seeds. Eaten together these catalyze your bodies disease fighting properties. Yes I know that beans have carbs. I eat LCHF too but can't skip bean's disease fighting properties.5
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yvanvillegas wrote: »So you fast from 3pm to 6am?
An you refeed once a week?
Are you just looking for other fasters, or is there a question?
Looking for other fasters and would like stats, experience on how fasting has helped or not helped basically. I mention fasting and the whole room goes wild, maybe because there are a lot of "cookie monsters" or "snack craving" lunatics that mistake hunger for a lack of NOT DRINKING WATER OR STAYING PROPERLY HYDRATED
Seriously? Yet for some reason your posts are the only posts about fasting that get a negative reaction from the cookie monsters, but they're fine with the hundreds of other fasting threads. Makes you think, doesn't it?
The short of it: fasting helps some people meet caloric goals and doesn't help others. The end.6 -
yvanvillegas wrote: »So you fast from 3pm to 6am?
An you refeed once a week?
Are you just looking for other fasters, or is there a question?
Looking for other fasters and would like stats, experience on how fasting has helped or not helped basically. I mention fasting and the whole room goes wild, maybe because there are a lot of "cookie monsters" or "snack craving" lunatics that mistake hunger for a lack of NOT DRINKING WATER OR STAYING PROPERLY HYDRATED
I'll take being called a cookie monster and lunatic over crybaby any day.
You'd get let push-back if you'd stop insulting people.
I don't fast because I don't like how it makes me feel mentally. I have enough mental issues without being consumed over clock-watching until my next feeding window.4 -
yvanvillegas wrote: »So you fast from 3pm to 6am?
An you refeed once a week?
Are you just looking for other fasters, or is there a question?
Looking for other fasters and would like stats, experience on how fasting has helped or not helped basically. I mention fasting and the whole room goes wild, maybe because there are a lot of "cookie monsters" or "snack craving" lunatics that mistake hunger for a lack of NOT DRINKING WATER OR STAYING PROPERLY HYDRATED
The responses you get on your threads about fasting are nothing to do with the thread being about fasting.
I fast, but I also eat a proper diet, that is balanced and nutrient dense. I don't restrict calories to ridiculously low levels, but I still get results.
If you actually gain on more calories it is likely your metabolism has adapted to low calories, or you've lost an awful lot of muscle. Well done.7 -
yvanvillegas wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »You don't gain weight because your are under eating not because you're fasting.
Your diet is severely deficient. Get help.
This. I also told you in your other thread that you are under eating. I'm the same height as you, the same age as you, and at that body fat (which is around where I compete at) I'm 175 pounds. I'm also a woman and I don't go below 1600 when cutting. Ever.
You need to eat more. If your picture is current you should stop trying to lose weight for a while and fix your hormones. Eating 1600 calories followed by a 3,000 calorie binge and a ZERO calorie day isn't helping your hormones which in turn is making it so you are forced to eat less and less which in turn is destroying your lean mass. A true refeed for the deficit you are doing is going to be a few weeks long. You aren't improving your hormonal profile with a single day refeed followed by a complete fasting day.
I hover around 150-155 when bulking. To me a bulking diet consists of about 1500kcal-1800kcal ($pECIFIC FOR me because i am a small individual)Going up to 2000 calories makes me feel bloated even if I split up 2000 caories throughout the day and I don't even feEl like eating food after 3pm unless it's a fruit. I binge on natural foods NOT pizza or pasta or candy I've done that already last year and although it was great to have a day of eating candybars, oatmealwith honey, cookies crap like that I did gain some soft water retention around my gut and I don't like that. Now I cheat with fruits, brown rice, sweet potato, quinoa and it's not as bad as cheating with processed white starches. My picture is from about 3 weeks ago.
My hormones are fine my body has adapted.
I'm not going over 2000kcal daily if I do I will look like a water buffalo, or look like a soft polar bear, I'm not comfortable with that.
You are not a small individual. You're 5'8" and if 2000 calories makes you feel bloated you need to seek medical attention. 2000 calories on a bulk is NOT bulking. That's not even coming close to what your TDEE is. I think you need to seek some counseling because what you are saying about food is all the signs of orthorexia.14 -
I fast weight control. Once a week I fast for 36 hrs (10 pm Sun - 10 am Tues). On Wed - Fri I usually fast from around 9:30 - 10 pm until at least 1:00 pm the next day (usually more like 2-2:30).
But my diet is nowhere as strict as yours and I eat over maintenance on both Sat and Sun.
Do you only eat vegetables on your cheat day, or not at all?1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I fast weight control. Once a week I fast for 36 hrs (10 pm Sun - 10 am Tues). On Wed - Fri I usually fast from around 9:30 - 10 pm until at least 1:00 pm the next day (usually more like 2-2:30).
But my diet is nowhere as strict as yours and I eat over maintenance on both Sat and Sun.
Do you only eat vegetables on your cheat day, or not at all?Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I fast weight control. Once a week I fast for 36 hrs (10 pm Sun - 10 am Tues). On Wed - Fri I usually fast from around 9:30 - 10 pm until at least 1:00 pm the next day (usually more like 2-2:30).
But my diet is nowhere as strict as yours and I eat over maintenance on both Sat and Sun.
Do you only eat vegetables on your cheat day, or not at all?
On cheat day I eat 3000 calories in chicken , sausage, but mostly fruits, apples, bananas, oranges, sweet potatoes, brown rice, quinoa, maybe oatmeal if it's available in my cabinet. Next day I fast 20 hours I'd say then it's back to dieting again0 -
RemoteOutpost wrote: »Eat less than 20g net carbs per day (carbs minus fiber). Eat all the fat and protein you want. Joy Weight gain ensues.
Fixed it for you.
Keto is not magical.5
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