April 2017 Running Challenge
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »@elise4270 I said I'd never pay that much for ice cream but I do. I get the dixie cups so I don't eat the whole half gallon ha ha
Question - I think in the March thread someone posted a link to half marathons all over, can you repost that? I have some of my friends talked into a vacation destination race.
I did a Google search and found:
http://www.halfmarathons.net/
http://www.runningintheusa.com/Race/List.aspx?Special=halfmarathon
I don't think I saw the original post, but maybe this will "jog" run someone's memory.
That's it, duh why couldn't I find it. I see what you did there, jog run LOL
OMG the local Fleet Feet is hiring, Skip already sent me a text asking if she can apply. Good Lordie we will not have any money if she is in THAT store all the time.5 -
It's been a while since I've posted this and we've got a lot of new runners here so I'm posting it again.
Strava Global Heatmap
When I go somewhere new and need to find a running route, or even if I just want to find a new route near my home, I like to use the Strava heatmap tool. This tool collects all of the Strava input and puts it on a map. You can play with the settings but I find the most detail shows up when I select:
Blue
100%
Run
Toggle Labels
Play around with it and see what you like best. You can only zoom in so far.
Once I find a likely route, I'll then look at area with Google Maps. I use both the satellite view and street view to make sure it's a route I'd want to run. Not all routes on the heatmap turn out to be good routes to run.
Thank you for posting this @7lenny7 ! You've helped me in two ways:
1) this could be useful for routes in Punta Cana over the next week of my vacation
2) this reminded me that I wanted to pull up and print out the routes I already mapped in Punta Cana in the route builder in Map My Run1 -
Hi all
Aim: 130k
4/2: 13.1k -casual run-
4/3: 1.5k -cause I am lazy, that's why-
4/4: 4k -as c/d of leg day training-
4/6: 5k -after gym-
4/7: 8.5k -intervals-
4/8: 9.1k -various surfaces-
4/9: 12.5k -trail-
4/11: 4.5k -c/d from strength training-
4/13: 9.7k -intervals-
4/14: 14.8k -various surfaces-
4/19: 2.5 -c/d from strength training-
84.6/130k
After so much food, back to business!6 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »@elise4270 I said I'd never pay that much for ice cream but I do. I get the dixie cups so I don't eat the whole half gallon ha ha
Question - I think in the March thread someone posted a link to half marathons all over, can you repost that? I have some of my friends talked into a vacation destination race.
I did a Google search and found:
http://www.halfmarathons.net/
http://www.runningintheusa.com/Race/List.aspx?Special=halfmarathon
I don't think I saw the original post, but maybe this will "jog" run someone's memory.
That's it, duh why couldn't I find it. I see what you did there, jog run LOL
OMG the local Fleet Feet is hiring, Skip already sent me a text asking if she can apply. Good Lordie we will not have any money if she is in THAT store all the time.
Well.... Eventually she'll own everything and will run out of things to buy.... And hey! That's what HER check is for!3 -
@skippygirlsmom you know the comment about putting the ice cream in a Dixie cups, or maybe buying the little ones, makes me think I could have ice cream in moderation....
But I know I'm the one that sits down with the 1/2 gallon.... That's why we get Ben and Jerry's in pints, because if it were a gallon.... I mean, if DH is the least bit slow getting to his pint.... It's mine.
I'd still like to experiment with having ice cream in moderation.... But let's be honest, I just lack restraint with pies and ice cream.
How do y'all do it.. knowing it's in the freezer. Waiting. So cold and creamy... With bits of crunchies in it. Salty crunchies. And caramel.
I best be careful. A person (may or may not be an MD) hooked me up this AM with a course of prednisone. (My shot seems to have already worn off).
Eh, oh disclaimer- don't share ur RX with others even if they have a script of their own.
Run. Bare. Footed. International run barefoot day is in May. (I say that so the last thing u read isn't ice cream) think I may try to walk/run barefoot today. I hate shoes anyhow.4 -
@elise4270 sometimes I'm good if I have a cup it will make me happy. Other times I eat a couple of them ha ha!!
I might have to try the barefoot think, think of the money we'd save a shoes
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »@elise4270 I saw that too about the caveman - too funny
I can't believe he ran barefooted for 26+ miles!
I can't believe he's 50! Maybe I should adopt that lifestyle.
No doubt! You see the pic of Amby Burfoot? He's 70.
ETA http://www.runnersworld.com/boston-marathon/how-notables-fared-at-the-2017-boston-marathon
I've just been reading about an eighty year old who is running his 100th marathon next week in London. He's one of the only people to have run London every year since it began in 1981.
Question- should I taunt my work colleague doing his second marathon with this information?4 -
I'm thinking of going back towards the barefoot thing. Partly because i was listening to a podcast earlier and they were discussing wear on shoes. The main but of a shoe that deteriorates is the midsole, as it gets compressed. Really barefoot shoes don't have a midsole so should last longer.
Question for @7lenny7 - what shoes so you wear on your trail in the dark to give good prio-perception? I like the idea of running without a head-torch just with ambient light, but I'm worried the trees will get me.0 -
Ok. You guys asked for the race recap, so here it is. You might manage to make it through the whole thing by tomorrow (this is why I rarely do race re-caps). If you don't have an extra hour to kill, the TLDR version is that I went to Boston, I ran the race, it was hard, I finished and am elated. The part that I did not include is that I am still having trouble walking and I'm not sure but I may have done significant damage to my hamstrings. Unlike @MobyCarp, I was unwise and did not hold back when I know I should have. At this point, I am not sure if I will ever run another marathon or not. I guess I need to take some time off to heal. I am thinking that might be at least 6 weeks.
I also have some comments to add on the recent discussion regarding qualifying for Boston. However, after typing the race recap, my wrists hurt in addition to my legs. I'm off to take some Tylenol and I will save it for tomorrow. Enjoy the recap...remember...you asked for it!
2017 Boston Marathon race recap:
We arrived in Boston on Friday morning after a direct flight out from Cincinnati at 7:45. We checked into our hotel and headed down to the fitness expo on foot. It was less than 1 mile walk from our hotel. There were many stops along the way for photos since all things “Boston Marathon” were starting to appear all over town. There was a crew setting up the stands along the finish line and tents in Copely Square. We were particularly impressed with all of the workers out planting blue and yellow pansies in just about every available square inch of dirt.
At the Expo, I picked up my bib (more photos), my race shirt, and lots of other swag available for purchase at the Adidas official merchandise tent, including my celebration jacket. It’s pretty easy to get carried away in there. My husband sampled the Sam Adams 26.2 brew, I bought a “Boston Runnah” t-shirt from the Saucony booth, and we finished our way through the expo. At the end of the expo, there was a huge video of the course preview, with comments from elite runners about different challenges on the course. I got a little choked up while watching it, I have to admit. But the one thing that I took away from that video was that this course is uniquely challenging and managing the race and respecting the course were going to be key if I was going to finish it.
After the expo, we had some lunch and did some more exploring of the city and all that was going on. At the end of the day, I was pretty tired and my hamstrings were feeling all of the walking we did. My husband was running the 5K in the morning, so we headed back to our hotel, had a quick bite to eat at the bar and called it an early night. I slept like crap. The nerves were already beginning to kick in.
On Saturday, I got up around 6:30 and fiddled around killing time until we were ready to head down to Boston Common for the 5K. It was only a short walk from our hotel, which turned out to be in an ideal location and I will for sure stay there again if I ever return. With 10,000 entrants in the 5K, it was quite a scene at the start. My husband made his way back to the 10 minute pace group. It took about 12 minutes after the gun for him to cross the start line. The race was exciting to watch because it was the first time I had spectated an elite level 5K.
Participants were still making their way across the starting line when the first finishers showed up. Ben True set an American record of 13:20 (mind blowing!) My husband thought it was so cool that he participated in a race in which a record was set. He wants to go back next year to do it again.
We capped Saturday off by doing more walking around town, watching the 1 mile invitational from the bleachers at the finish line and taking the subway out to the North End, where we had reservations at an Italian place with gluten-free pizza and pasta. I had the gnocci which was delicious.
On Sunday I got up and did a short shake out run along Commonwealth Avenue and the Charles River. There were so many people out running it was crazy. My legs were tired and my easy pace came in around a 9:15 minute mile. This was not good news, so I knew that I was going to have to take it easy the rest of the day. We decided to take a break from the excitement of the marathon, and took the subway out to Cambridge for brunch. We hung around Harvard Yard, sitting in the shade and people watching. We returned back to our hotel around 4PM, where I settled into the bed for the rest of the night. We watched the Pens game and my husband walked around the corner to get us food from a restaurant that served breakfast all day and had gluten free pancakes. I was super excited for this, as this is always my pre-race meal of choice at home, and I always save an extra for race morning.
I was up several times during the night, but all in all, I was able to get a decent amount of sleep. My stomach was giving me problems, which had me concerned, but in the morning it turned out not to be an issue. I had everything ready to go for the race and got out the door with plenty of time to make it down to the bus loading area. I had arrangements to meet up with my mother’s best friend’s granddaughter, who was also running the race, but we had gotten some signals crossed and that ended up just being a cluster of extra stress. When I didn’t find her by 8:15, I just headed on over to catch the bus on my own.
The ride out to Hopkinton was kind of surreal. It was amazing to me how efficiently they were able to load and transport nearly 30,000 runners to the starting line on school buses. I sat next to a lady on the bus who was running her third Boston marathon. She was nervous because she had injured her tailbone skiing a month ago and was unsure how she would be able to hold up. I told her we were in a similar boat. The bus ride went by quickly, but it also seemed like we were driving forever. It was hard to believe that we were going to run that whole distance back into town. We unloaded from the bus, paused at the entrance to the athlete’s village for photos from the race photographers and headed off to get in line for the toilets. The sun was already starting to beat down at this point, so I knew it was going to be hot. I grabbed an extra bottle of water and downed it. By the time I finished using the bathroom, they had already called for my wave to start making our way down to the start. This was about a 15 minute walk. The streets were already lined with tons of spectators cheering you on before you even got to the starting line. Once there, I used the bathroom one last time and headed to my corral. By the time I reached it, my wave had already started. I had about 3 minutes of walking toward the start and then I was off. There was very little time spent sitting and waiting around…My Boston Marathon had begun!
I paused for a moment after the start to really absorb where I was and what I was doing. People were racing by me, flying down the hill, but I knew that I had to stick to my plan to hold back as much as I could. After every warning I had heard about not starting off too fast at Boston, it would not be wise not to heed it. My plan was to start off at a 9 minute mile. My Garmin said my pace was 8:50, which was close enough and felt comfortable. I fell into pace with another lady close to my age. She was from Canada and was also trying to hold herself back. We chatted for a while and ran the first 5 miles together. They flew by. She told me that she had hoped to finish around 3:30-3:40, so I knew she had plans on speeding up. At mile five, she started to pick up the pace, so I wished her good luck and told her to go on with her race. She thanked me for keeping her company. From there I just continued to trudge along at my comfortable pace. My legs already hurt and I wondered how long they would hold out. I should have been stopping to stretch, but I did not want to lose my momentum. I was holding true to my promise to myself and really enjoying the race. I was reading signs and high-fiving children and fist pumping when my “Mojo Running Club” tank drew calls from the crowd.
It was really starting to get hot, so I made sure to stop at every water stop for Gatorade or water. By mile 10, a lot of people around me had already started to walk. Folks were pouring cups of water over their heads. There were several spots along the course set up as makeshift sprinklers and I ran through as many of them as I could. I was starting to feel tired around mile 14, and I was counting the miles until 17, where I knew my husband would be waiting to see me. Just as planned, he was standing by the mile 17 marker. He yelled” You’re killing it” to me and I ran over and gave him a quick kiss. It was the boost I needed to get me through the hills as I entered into Newton.
The hills in Newton were not that bad, certainly not as bad as I had expected. I noticed that I was passing quite a lot of people now who were walking. I went up and down several hills and finally made it to mile 20 where I thought I should encounter Heartbreak Hill. I kept running, but I did not see this hill coming up. Had I remembered the course incorrectly? Did the hill start at mile 21? I kept running on and looking forward for Heartbreak Hill when I noticed a sign “Top of the Hill!” A woman running next to me asked” Was that Heartbreak Hill?” I shrugged. I didn’t think so. Then I saw another sign. “You made it over Heart Break Hill!” Wow! That was certainly not what I had expected.
I looked at my Garmin and did a quick calculation and realized that if I held my current pace, I could finish in under 3:55, which would be a BQ. I decided to try and turn it up a bit and see what I could do. I flew down the hill pretty fast, but when I hit the flat ground at the bottom, I realized I had very little left in the tank. I had only taken two and a half gels at this point and really should have taken another, but the thought of trying to suck down a gel right then was far less appealing than trying to run on fumes. I continued on, making sure to get as much Gatorade as I could at the water stops. I was running past the cemetery and I thought of the video I had just watched and how they called it the “haunted” mile because so many races were lost there. I thought about @MobyCarp’s warning that this part of the course was a struggle for him. I knew all that I could do was to just keep running. I kept telling this to myself, out loud. I was not the only person talking to myself at this point and I didn’t even care if I was. I just kept saying “Just keep running”. And I did. I had no idea how fast I was running, just that I was on autopilot and headed for the finish line. The crowd at this point was unbelievable. Thousands of people just cheering me on. I don’t think I could have made it without them. Then came the best surprise of all. As I made the turn onto Hereford Street, there was my husband, shouting my name. I wasn’t expecting to see him again because the finish line area is crowded, so we just agreed to meet at the designated area. But there he was to give me that extra little push I needed to make it onto Boylston.
The trek down Boylston Street might just be the longest segment of a race I can remember. It honestly felt like I was running on a treadmill, or that somebody was taking the finish line and moving it back with every step. I could see it, but it wasn’t getting any closer. Where were those bleachers? Shouldn’t I be there by now? I’m quite certain I could not have lasted another step, when all of a sudden there it was, the blue and yellow painted asphalt that was the finish line of the Boston Marathon. I had dreamed about this moment forever. I gave it that final push and hit the button on my Garmin. It said 3:53:13. I had finished the Boston Marathon…in Boston Qualifying time! I could not have been more elated!
The journey down the shoot after the race was a bit of a blur. I stopped and posed for a photo. The sun had gone in and it was windy and I suddenly needed a mylar blanket, so I waited in line for that. I picked up a water, stopped for another photo, got my food bag that had nothing even remotely appealing. I was beginning to wonder if I had the energy to make it to the family meeting area when somebody handed me a chocolate protein drink. I couldn’t even open it, and had to ask one of the volunteers for help. When I finally took a sip, it was just about the best thing I had ever tasted in my life. I drank it down as I hobbled my way through the chute to the family meeting area. I was headed for the “G” post, which just happened to be right outside the front door to our hotel.
I waited in my designated area for my husband for about 10 minutes. I chatted with a lady from Guatemala who had just finished the race. I wanted to sit down. I didn’t want to sit down. My foot was cramping. My hamstrings were on fire. I was about to head up to my room and text my husband when he showed up. He was energized by the excitement of the race and beaming over my finish. There was a huge celebration party going on in the hotel bar/patio and he wanted to join in. He insisted that I needed a glass of champagne before my shower. Although that sounded like the last thing in the world I wanted at that moment, his enthusiasm was contagious. So I downed a huge glass of water while he headed off to buy me a glass of champagne. I have to admit…it tasted amazing!
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Got a four mile walk done today. Hip mostly agreed with me, but I'm not going to try running on it again until after I talk to the doctor.
Every time a runner passed me I wanted to yell out, "I RUN TOO REALLY I DO I'M JUST INJURED RIGHT NOW."8 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »@kgirlhart Happy Birthday
@stoshew71 I was just thinking, you know you live in a running town when like 20 people from your local area ran in Boston yesterday.
I know. And I know about half of them in person.
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@lporter229 great race report I got through or quick because I'm a fast reader but not runner1
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Fabulous race report @lporter229! You did such an amazing job! Hope your hamstrings get better soon.1
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1---4.48
3---3.05
5---2.85 walk
9---3.30 walk
11---4.77
14---6.07
16---4.36 fastest run yet.
18---3.88
19---2.8 Barefoot Walk. Cuz I just had to try it out. Definitely good for the gait!
35.58/50
RACES!!!
XTERRA Rock Dallas Trail Run May 27 (Tentative)
XTERRA Jurassic Trail Run Jul 8 (Tentative)1 -
WK: 4.17.17 - 4.23.17
M - Rest / Recover Day
T - 10.8 m. 9:35 pace.
W - 9.8 m. 9:40 pace.
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Since we're on the topic of barefoot running, I was wondering if anyone ever started by running in socks. Seems like they would offer some protection and the full barefoot experience.
Then I started searching around and found out about people who do this and even paint a coat of Plasti-Dip on the bottom for more protection. Anyone ever try this?
http://barefootrunning.com/?p=2052
Then I came across a new kickstarter product called Skinners.
http://skinners.cc/1 -
Awesome race and fantastic report @lporter229! So happy for you - what a great race. But take care of those poor legs.
Date :::: Miles :::: April MTD (goal = 95)
04/01/17 :::: 7.7 :::: 7.7
04/02/17 :::: 3.5 :::: 11.2
04/03/17 :::: 2.5 :::: 13.7
04/04/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 13.7
04/05/17 :::: 3.5 :::: 17.2
04/06/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 17.2
04/07/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 17.2
04/08/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 17.2
04/09/17 :::: 3.5 :::: 20.6
04/10/17 :::: 3.0 :::: 23.6
04/11/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 23.6
04/12/17 :::: 3.2 :::: 26.8
04/13/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 26.8
04/14/17 :::: 4.0 :::: 30.8
04/15/17 :::: 6.2 :::: 37.0
04/16/17 :::: 2.7 :::: 39.7
04/17/17 :::: 3.7 :::: 43.4
04/18/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 43.4
04/19/17 :::: 3.1 :::: 46.6
Rain today and an unusual schedule so I decided to hit the treadmill at the Y on my way for a later start (and later finish) to work. I overshot my usual speed setting when I was getting started, but it felt okay so I just kept going. According to my Garmin (we'll just conveniently ignore that the treadmill disagreed slightly with both the pace and distance) I ended up doing a 5k in almost my fastest 5k race time. Regardless of the technicalities of what my pace actually was, I'm feeling good that I am starting to notice some consistent improvement in my average pace and how long I can maintain it.
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4??? I think?? mile walk with coworker. Followed by 3.3 mile run. - since I didn't have tracker going during walk, I do have proof that I won't ALWAYS be "running in place"5
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4/1: 5.8 miles
4/2: 2.8 miles
4/3: X-train (elliptical)
4/4: 3.6 miles
4/5: 5 miles
4/6: rest
4/7: 3.6 miles
4/8: 6.3 miles
4/9: 3 miles
4/10: rest
4/11: 4 miles
4/12: 5 miles
4/13: 4 miles
4/14: rest
4/15: 8 miles
4/16: 5 miles
4/17: PT/30 DS
4/18: 5 miles
4/19: 5 miles
TOTAL: 66.1/100 miles
Tried my hand at some mile repeats for speed work this afternoon: 1 mile warm up (9:38), 2 x 1 mile at 10K pace followed by 1/2 mile recovery (splits of 9:08, 5:03, 9:06, 5:32), 1 mile cool down (9:31). I started off the run with a little less energy than I'd like and hotter/muggier than I've been used to, so I felt like I needed to push myself a little harder for the two fast miles, but I still managed to hit my split goal (9:05-9:15) for both miles. Didn't really care what the recovery and warm/up cool down paces were.
I had to squeeze in my miles after work and rush home to shower before heading off to volunteer training. I'm pretty excited to be a Course Marshal for the Capital City Half Marathon, which is also the USTAF Half Marathon Championship this year. I'll be in the first zone of the course, so that will be fun. At first I was kind bummed that I wouldn't be ready to run a half for this race due to setback from my stress injury but I'm pretty pumped to see things from this side of things.4 -
Nevermind....2
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@skippygirlsmom Staff Discount = Momma gets new kicks.skippygirlsmom wrote: »OMG the local Fleet Feet is hiring, Skip already sent me a text asking if she can apply. Good Lordie we will not have any money if she is in THAT store all the time.
Now I have an urge for Ice Cream - I wonder what caused that??
@lporter229 Great Race report - Tip my hat to you for a BQ @BM. Glad to hear that you ran with a Canadian Lady for a while ( my people ) drawing support from each other. Your comments about Heart Break Hill reflect what my friend/mentor/coach Ken said about Heart Break Hill, he has 5 BM Completions. As he put it they need to put a sign on the Hill so people realize what/where they are. Supposedly there is a statue of John Kelly at the base of the Hill that is not visible from the road. Saying that I must add that in the heat of events he can be Course Blind, if his shoe doesn't land on it he won't see it.
14 km today - missed the regular Wednesday night shorty (5-7k) Club run for a run up Judah Hill. My Strava of Todays run and the other March 20 run I completed on the same Route.
I initially though that I had a big improvement in pace, then realized I was comparing a 13.5km run to a 14km run.
Yet Garmin Connect definitely shows a 4 minute difference in time between the March 20 run and Todays run, not sure why Strava shows nothing different.
I Think I figured it out. Strava seems to use Elapsed Time and Garmin Connect is using Moving Time. Which means Strava does not delete the Stop/Rest Time.
Even though it was only 4C I was a wet sloppy mess by the time I was done. Still managed to add a little kick in the last 500m to get my pace down to 5:49/km.
Now where is that Honey Brown Brew hiding.
04/01 0.0 km – 140. km – 0.0 km – YTD 300.05
04/02 6.5 km – 135.5km - 6.5km
04/05 5.2 km – 130.3km - 11.7km
04/08 21.3 km – 109.0km - 33.0km
04/12 5.0 km – 104.0km - 38.0km
04/15 12.1 km – 89.9km - 50.1km
04/16 5.0 km – 84.9km - 55.1km
04/17 5.3 km – 79.6km - 60.4km
04/19 14.0 km – 65.6km - 74.4km – YTD 374.4 Judah Hill Climb from home.
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@lporter229 - Great race report. You ran a classic first time Boston. If When you go back, you'll have a better idea what to expect and how to manage the race.
No running for me today. Scheduled visit with my podiatrist. He totally missed the clue that I was wearing the current year Boston Celebration jacket, and asked me about the race that was up and coming last time I saw him. Took me a minute to dredge Bend, Oregon out of my memory banks. Then I had to tell him, "The feet you're looking at ran the Boston Marathon two days ago." I'm pleased that it wasn't obvious to him that I had just run a marathon. I still have all my toenails. He says I have blisters under my calluses, could I take a few days off? I expect my feet will be fine when my quads let me run easy again.
Went to see the documentary, "BOSTON - An American Running Story" this evening. Worth every penny. I'll have to write my sister and tell her she should have tolerated the hour drive from Lincoln to Omaha to see it, and dragged my other sister (the retired music teacher) along for the mini-documentary at the end on the making of the sound track.
Saw more people at the movie who didn't look like marathon runners than I expected, as well as seeing several familiar faces. Lots of chatter about how various folks' marathon went on Monday. Good times, nice way to pass time while I'm waiting to be able to run again.5 -
@lporter229 That was a terrific recap and worth the wait. I love how you didn't recognize Heartbreak Hill as if you faced harder hills than that. So amazing. I hope that you heal quickly.0
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So planned and ran 12 miles today. Legs were fairly fresh until mile 9....and then could feel myself slowing down a lot. Also having more difficulty than expected with lungs. My mother's basement has a mold issue...I hope that I didn't inhale any spores. Or it could be that I am not in as great a shape as I want to be. I finished 12 miles in 153 minutes, had to stop once to tie shoes. My music shut off after 6.5 miles due to my forgetting to charge my mp3 player. Very tough to run without music. Had a little cramping in left calf at mile 6 which didn't last long. I had a pretty full meal 2 hours earlier....going to change that. Light meals from now on. 2 hours is still not enough time to digest prior to a long run.
This will probably be my last run x 1 week. I am working the next 3 nights (12 hour shifts). On Sunday probably need to pack. My husband and I are headed to Nashville TN. On the agenda is a Joe Walsh/Tom Petty concert Tuesday night at the Bridgestone.
4/19...12 miles
4/18...4 miles
4/17...8 miles
4/14....8 miles
4/12....4.36 miles
4/9....10 miles
4/8....8 miles
4/2....9 miles
Total ....63.36 miles
goal...50 miles
Indianapolis Mini Marathon (Half Marathon)....May 6
Geist Reservoir Half...May 20
Indy Women's Half Marathon....September 30 (tentative)
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juliet3455 wrote: »14 km today - missed the regular Wednesday night shorty (5-7k) Club run for a run up Judah Hill. My Strava of Todays run and the other March 20 run I completed on the same Route.
I initially though that I had a big improvement in pace, then realized I was comparing a 13.5km run to a 14km run.
Yet Garmin Connect definitely shows a 4 minute difference in time between the March 20 run and Todays run, not sure why Strava shows nothing different.
I Think I figured it out. Strava seems to use Elapsed Time and Garmin Connect is using Moving Time. Which means Strava does not delete the Stop/Rest Time.
Now you've confused ME. Not sure what you're saying. My Strava is always different and shorter than Garmin because Strava only shows moving time, and Garmin shows total time.0 -
Happy Birthday @jessicalferrara!
Happy Birthday @kgirlhart!
@7lenny7 "Proprioception" is my word of the week. Thanks!
"Proprioception (/ˌproʊprioʊˈsɛpʃən, -priə-/[1][2] pro-pree-o-sep-shən), from Latin proprius, meaning "one's own", "individual", and capio, capere, to take or grasp, is the sense of the relative position of neighbouring parts of the body and strength of effort being employed in movement."
And thanks for the relink to Strava Global Heatmaps. Found some cool stuff. Weird, though, it doesn't show any heat where I've done quite a few runs. Must not have been updated for a while in my area.
@lporter229 Brilliant recap! My eyes misted up. Equally brilliant run! I sincerely hope your hamstrings heal quickly and completely.2 -
20/04 - 4.2 mile run (Taper #2) followed with 2 mile Interval & Shoulders
Completed
• 11/03 - 10K Run The Solar System (thanks for the tip) - 52:01
• 12/03 - TM Half Marathon (plugged in the MK HM route - attempt 1 ) - 1:54:02
• 25/03 - TM Half Marathon (plugged in the MK HM route - attempt 2 ) - 1:53:53
• 15/04 - TM Easter Bunny support run (plugged in the MK HM route - attempt 2 ) - 1:59:03
Coming up:
• 01/05 - Milton Keynes HM
• 18/06 - Run-Bedford-Run - 10K
• 02/09 - Bedford HM
• 24/09 - Windsor HM1 -
juliet3455 wrote: »14 km today - missed the regular Wednesday night shorty (5-7k) Club run for a run up Judah Hill. My Strava of Todays run and the other March 20 run I completed on the same Route.
I initially though that I had a big improvement in pace, then realized I was comparing a 13.5km run to a 14km run.
Yet Garmin Connect definitely shows a 4 minute difference in time between the March 20 run and Todays run, not sure why Strava shows nothing different.
I Think I figured it out. Strava seems to use Elapsed Time and Garmin Connect is using Moving Time. Which means Strava does not delete the Stop/Rest Time.
Now you've confused ME. Not sure what you're saying. My Strava is always different and shorter than Garmin because Strava only shows moving time, and Garmin shows total time.
me too. so for example my Tomtom tells me I spent 4hours 23 minutes on my 13.7miles explore of the trails in Exmoor the other week, even though I paused it mostly when we stopped (and certainly when we sat at the pub for lunch) and it states 'active hours'. Strava takes that same run and tells me I ran for 3h28 minutes.
For the geeks - here are the stplits given by both (disclaimer - technical trail and my average pace is always slow around 12 minute miles. And we walked most of mile 9 as we'd just eaten)
Mile Strava TomTom
1 12.44 14.04
2 12.15 28.09
3 15.39 24.57
4 15.04 14.15
5 15.34 31.49
6 17.56 23.34
7 14.51 18.42
8 14.01 15.24
9 15.29 53.21
10 15.23 18.04
11 15.32 30.19
13 14.44 22.46
0.7 14.43 14.08
Total3.28 4.28
So from this, I think Tomtom doesn't pause the data - I'm quite sure it didn't take 53 minutes to walk mile 9, it was an easy stroll, without many ups. Interestingly Tomtom tells me it was a 13.14mile run, whereas Strava gives me 13.7miles.1 -
Great idea to re-post this, @7lenny7 !It's been a while since I've posted this and we've got a lot of new runners here so I'm posting it again.
Strava Global Heatmap
When I go somewhere new and need to find a running route, or even if I just want to find a new route near my home, I like to use the Strava heatmap tool. This tool collects all of the Strava input and puts it on a map. You can play with the settings but I find the most detail shows up when I select:
Blue
100%
Run
Toggle Labels
Play around with it and see what you like best. You can only zoom in so far.
Once I find a likely route, I'll then look at area with Google Maps. I use both the satellite view and street view to make sure it's a route I'd want to run. Not all routes on the heatmap turn out to be good routes to run.
You can also use the heatmap when you plan routes with Strava, which I find really useful.
You can show the heatmap (and segments) as overlay on the regular map to see where other people run. And create a route by clicking at points and then dragging the route around, and in the end you can save it and then load it on your phone when you start tracking an activity with the Strava app. Then let it show both your planned routes as well as your actual track as you run/ride. I often do that when I run in a new area.
Every now and then I decide to follow a very faint trace on the heat map to try out a new trail. And then I'm in the middle of a forest and ask myself: how you can have enough people fighting their way to the underbush in that spot that it shows up on the heat map - and realise I'm in the process of adding one more run to the data to reinforce that line, so the next person will be fooled into looking for a trail there as well
But 99% of the time, it works well. And I've found lots of trails I otherwise would have missed.
@Orphia I think you can chose in the privacy settings if your runs should be used to add to the global heatmap or not.
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@girlinahat I've got a Tomtom watch too; and mine for sure has no auto-stop feature. Strava on the other hand subtracts all the time it thinks you were stopped, so whenever there are some traffic lights or photo stops along the way, my final average pace on Strava will be faster than the one from the watch data directly.
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@WhatMeRunning I have some Vibram Furoshiki shoes; walking around in them feels pretty much like walking in socks to me; although they do offer maybe a little more protection and grip? I always feel weird walking through the city in them, but it's kind of fun too.
I haven't tried running in them though. The Skinners look nice too. I think I need want a pair!
@OSUbuckeye906 That's awesome that you are volunteering at the race!
I'm always thinking maybe I should do that one day. But there are so few races around here, I can never bring myself to pass up running them. But I'm always really grateful to the volunteers - so great that so many people are willing to spend their time to give others the chance to enjoy a race.
@lporter229 I LOVED reading your race report. What a brilliant marathon, congratulations again!4
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