Anybody what exercises like crazy 5-6 days a week (burn more than 2,000 cal daily)?
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NorthCascades wrote: »If I remember the most often quoted formula for calculating running calories correctly, it's 0.63 x bodyweight x distance (miles). So even a 200 pound person would have to run around 8 miles in an hour (that's a 7:30/mile pace) to burn 1,000 calories.
This isn't really here or there, but I think that formula should be taken with a grain of salt. When I started running, I used to bounce up and down a lot more, and I've improved my form over time, which means I'm wasting less energy on something that doesn't turn up in the math.
0.63 is an average over a statistical relevant sample size.
However, running power meters have started to measure the amount of power you use for horizontal propulsion vs vertical. 3d power meters add side to side too. I'd have to look to see if there is any data about power used vertically.1 -
Just wondering if some people go into extremes when it comes to burn your calories. Does anyone burn between 2000 and 3500 cal daily? I have never done it but I am wondering if it is possible. I guess it would be super tiring unless you are athlete
Sort of. Last year when I was installing flower beds for my wife I was doing my regular exercise program which burns 400 - 500 calories in a 30 minutes (total, not differential) -plus- I was shoveling dirt and gravel for 5 to 8 hours per day. That burns around 400 calories per hour or 2000 - 3200 calories right there. It was definitely tiring, but I had all my training from exercise on how to move without injuring myself, plus I could pretty much eat anything.0 -
Burning 2000 just from exercise, lol definitely not.
But I do workout twice a day most days, about 60 minutes each workout, and I usually burn 1000+ between both of those sessions. Most days, I burn between 2500 - 3500 calories a day in total, according to my fitbit.
It sounds extreme for sure, but my body has actually acclimated to it quite well.1 -
scorpio516 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »If I remember the most often quoted formula for calculating running calories correctly, it's 0.63 x bodyweight x distance (miles). So even a 200 pound person would have to run around 8 miles in an hour (that's a 7:30/mile pace) to burn 1,000 calories.
This isn't really here or there, but I think that formula should be taken with a grain of salt. When I started running, I used to bounce up and down a lot more, and I've improved my form over time, which means I'm wasting less energy on something that doesn't turn up in the math.
0.63 is an average over a statistical relevant sample size.
However, running power meters have started to measure the amount of power you use for horizontal propulsion vs vertical. 3d power meters add side to side too. I'd have to look to see if there is any data about power used vertically.
I'm very curious about running power meters. I've been advised to hold off for a while before getting one, not that I'm in the market yet, but that today's are all based on motion sensors and algorithms, not direct force measurement. I don't know if that's the case anymore, DCR did a post about a pair of insoles with about 25 strain gauges per foot.
When I get on my bike, I don't have a lot of choices. Push the pedal down when it comes up. Stand up occasionally to stretch out. When I run, the world feels open, I can take big strides or little ones, bounce up a little or a lot, etc.1 -
SoulRadiation wrote: »If my Fitbit is accurate (it seems to rate my exercise a little bit higher than MapMyWalk estimates) then I could be burning around that much...1-2K+ in exercise. I go on long walks (hours), hit the punching bag, and lift weights for exercise. I have some other stuff I want to get into like medicine ball throwing and riding my airdyne bike.
I do eat a lot and feel I have to eat back some exercise calories to have energy and be healthy. I try to get lots of everything, carbs, proteins, and fats...sometimes I struggle to meet my calorie goal because I'm full...or too tired and just want to go to sleep but then I'll drink whole milk and protein powder to keep it from being a ridiculous deficit...and I'm having pretty good success since Feb losing weight (32 lbs since Feb, 289-257).
It's a major time commitment because I walk as a primary way of doing cardio. I find it enjoyable, and go explore the various trails in my area...take pictures, and entertain myself on the internet as I walk. It took a while to build up to where I'm currently at in walking. My 7-day step total at the moment is 183,953...although 5-10% of those "steps" are me hitting the punching bag (I should track that because it would be fun to know but I haven't).
I stopped watching TV. I listen to the news and various podcasts while I'm walking to replace that kind of entertainment. I think my cable provider has an app where I could watch TV on it but I would probably walk myself into a lake if I start doing that...
I'm trying to get down to ~225 and then switch to a strength focused fitness program, drop the walking, and not have to change too much about what I eat.
I was an athletic guy in high school...played football (although I was too big at that time). In my 20's and 30's I was really into martial arts and we would train 2-3 hours at a time easily. I know somewhere in me is still a really athletic guy, and to find him I'm trying to eat a lot and do a lot of exercise where I monitor my heart rate to keep it in the fat-burning zone.
I'm relatively new to food logging, but have been trying diligently to stay on top of it on a daily basis. I don't know what my averages are because I haven't tried to figure that out yet...but I could easily eat 2500-3K. I also have 3-4K cheat days on occasion, and don't feel the least bit bad about getting beer, movie theater popcorn, pizza, etc...when there's an occasion to go have a date night/movie night/whatever.
I put on most of my weight following a back injury, and stopping some of the regular martial arts I had been doing when I would probably be burning god knows what during long training/sparring sessions. I didn't adjust my diet to my new activity level and I put on a ton of weight. So now, I've been building back up to a high activity level, cleaning up the diet, and trying to find my inner athlete again.
When you're pretty heavy, it seems you can burn some serious calories from a long walk. I would caution anybody starting out to NOT start out trying to go for long walks or create a big deficit through exercise. You'll need some months to build up the strength in your feet, shins, calves, and back. I have also had other times in my life where I was pretty active...so everybody's experiences may vary. So you probably don't want to start from nothing and go see what happens after a 3 hour hike in the woods for several days in a row. I would suggest 30 minutes and build up, and switching out your shoes often is a very good idea.
Kind of a rambling post...but those are some of my ideas and experiences so far as a big guy trying to lose weight, related to the topic of burning a ton of calories to lose weight. Good luck to everybody with your fitness goals this year!
fitbit also adds in your BMR. so its not all exercise calories.1 -
Just wondering if some people go into extremes when it comes to burn your calories. Does anyone burn between 2000 and 3500 cal daily? I have never done it but I am wondering if it is possible. I guess it would be super tiring unless you are athlete
Weight lifting (vigorous effort) burns 440 calories /hr. If you want to burn calories fast, drink lots of water, jump on a treadmill (for no less than 1 hour) and get that incline all the way up, and go at at least 2.5 MPH. You can also use the stairmaster; all this in combination with weight lifting. This type of routine requires a high level of expertise. I'm always available to answer any and all questions.
MyFitnessPal tells me if I go on a elliptrical for 60 min I burn a little over 1,000 cal. I have been on the elliptical in the past and easy 2 hours...Not recently but I didn't know that I was burning that much. Can I trust the numbers from MyFitnessPal?
If I remember the most often quoted formula for calculating running calories correctly, it's 0.63 x bodyweight x distance (miles). So even a 200 pound person would have to run around 8 miles in an hour (that's a 7:30/mile pace) to burn 1,000 calories.
I'd say the above quote of 440 calories per hour for weightlifting is overblown as well. Most weight lifting routines involve rest periods, and the heavier you're lifting the longer the rest periods usually are.
The biggest issue is that most people think they're burning a lot more calories in exercise than they actually are burning in reality. 2,000 calories of exercise a day is pretty intense and unless you're an elite athlete you're probably not going to be able to keep that up 5 to 6 days a week for long without overtraining and/or getting injured. Not to mention the fact that if you're in a calorie deficit, you're not adequately fueling those workouts in the first place.
Is your formula only for one hour? Or no matter how long it takes? I walked last Friday 5 miles in less than 2 hours. Does that mean according to your formula I burned about 866 cal? 0.63 x 275 x 5 miles = 866.25 Did I do that right?
For walking the multiplier is 0.3, so c430 calories.0 -
Reducing a pile of dirty fill to usable soil. Pickaxe, shovel, screen, and wheelbarrow. I've gone as much as around 1200 in three hours that way. Burns you up good.1
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On my tougher bike rides I burn 2500-3000 calories, but it ain't "easy" and it's certainly not something I could do more than maybe twice a week. Given I work full time, I can really only do once a week. That's assuming a 4-5 hour ride, with some climbing, done at a good pace. Not taking it easy all.
However if we're talking TDEE, 3500/day isn't that hard. Just biking to work and back puts me there, and I can do it daily.1 -
Burned 3,556 during the AZ marathon. However, I won't be doing that 5-6 days a week! lol.1
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NorthCascades wrote: »scorpio516 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »If I remember the most often quoted formula for calculating running calories correctly, it's 0.63 x bodyweight x distance (miles). So even a 200 pound person would have to run around 8 miles in an hour (that's a 7:30/mile pace) to burn 1,000 calories.
This isn't really here or there, but I think that formula should be taken with a grain of salt. When I started running, I used to bounce up and down a lot more, and I've improved my form over time, which means I'm wasting less energy on something that doesn't turn up in the math.
0.63 is an average over a statistical relevant sample size.
However, running power meters have started to measure the amount of power you use for horizontal propulsion vs vertical. 3d power meters add side to side too. I'd have to look to see if there is any data about power used vertically.
I'm very curious about running power meters. I've been advised to hold off for a while before getting one, not that I'm in the market yet, but that today's are all based on motion sensors and algorithms, not direct force measurement. I don't know if that's the case anymore, DCR did a post about a pair of insoles with about 25 strain gauges per foot.
Jim Vance wrote a book on running PMs. Its pretty good, but also written to sell you a Stryd
I'm looking at getting one once I can convince myself to buy a $200 you that might or might not have any value
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If my GPS watch is accurate, I'm 140 #, Female, 38, and burn about 1650 calories during a 20 mile run at 10 min/mi. I sure as heck wouldn't want to do that 5-6 times per week.1
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MyFitnessPal tells me if I go on a elliptrical for 60 min I burn a little over 1,000 cal.[/b] I have been on the elliptical in the past and easy 2 hours...Not recently but I didn't know that I was burning that much. Can I trust the numbers from MyFitnessPal?
In an hour of running at 7.5 Mph or 12km/h I burn 900 calories. I do an hour of elliptical between run days and have found they're inaccurate, the heart rate elevated when running is more and the muscle oxigenation requires a lot more energy, but ellipticals show similar calories.
There's another formula to calculate calories with the metabolic equivalent of task MET http://www.mhhe.com/hper/physed/clw/webreview/web07/tsld007.htm
Here are some METs of running: https://sites.google.com/site/compendiumofphysicalactivities/Activity-Categories/running
I stimate the MET of the elliptical to be like 8.5 at a pair of levels above half of the max resistance.0 -
My calorie burn data comes from my Garmin 920 HR monitor.
I checked my Training Peaks account and found a few workouts where I burned more than 2000 calories this year. These occurred during long runs: a couple of 18 mile runs, a 20 mile run, and a 26.2 mile run, the Shamrock Marathon in March. Since March, we have switched to a swim and run focus, so my calorie burns have been less. Last Saturday's Zone 2 bike ride was 3:08 in duration (48 miles) and my HR monitor showed 1235 calories expended. The last time I can remember exceeding 3000 calories burned was during a 70.3 distance triathlon last summer.
Of course, we take in calories during training to offset some of the calories burned. In my case, my coach has prescribed 255-320 calories per hour, 28-35 oz in fluids and 60-85g of carbs per hour as fuel during long efforts.
In response to the OP, I can't imagine doing the kind of training volume that would burn 2000 calories more than about once per week, except in the later stages of training for a full Ironman distance race.
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Thanks everyone. That was very interesting and helpful
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »fitbit also adds in your BMR. so its not all exercise calories.
I wonder what the difference is. Do you think the "Fitbit calorie adjustment" takes that into effect in terms of syncing with MFP? I've wondered about what is the best way to enter data collected from Fitbit here...I prefer this interface for logging food and enjoy the social aspect/feed/forums stuff.
So far what I would do is complete a "workout" that I started on my Fitbit, and then enter the calories it says as a new exercise over here. It seems to decrease the "Fitbit adjustment" as I would guess it should, but I really have no idea if they are in line with each other or if Fitbit is adding too many calories back into their "adjustment".
I was talking about this with a coworker who likes to do long bike rides and in so doing he burns a whole lot of calories. He didn't know, either. He did say that the longer you go on something like a long bike ride or a long run or walk or whatever...that you should expect you needed a certain number of those calories it was telling you just do keep doing whatever you would have otherwise been doing anyway so that they weren't all "exercise".
There's probably a good way to figure it all out, but as I feel like I'm eating a lot and exercising even more...and kind of a big person anyway...it probably isn't that important at my level, but I don't really know.
I don't eat back ALL of my exercise calories. But I feel like I have to eat back some or I would probably start feeling unwell with the level of walking and other exercise I'm doing.
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scorpio516 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »scorpio516 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »If I remember the most often quoted formula for calculating running calories correctly, it's 0.63 x bodyweight x distance (miles). So even a 200 pound person would have to run around 8 miles in an hour (that's a 7:30/mile pace) to burn 1,000 calories.
This isn't really here or there, but I think that formula should be taken with a grain of salt. When I started running, I used to bounce up and down a lot more, and I've improved my form over time, which means I'm wasting less energy on something that doesn't turn up in the math.
0.63 is an average over a statistical relevant sample size.
However, running power meters have started to measure the amount of power you use for horizontal propulsion vs vertical. 3d power meters add side to side too. I'd have to look to see if there is any data about power used vertically.
I'm very curious about running power meters. I've been advised to hold off for a while before getting one, not that I'm in the market yet, but that today's are all based on motion sensors and algorithms, not direct force measurement. I don't know if that's the case anymore, DCR did a post about a pair of insoles with about 25 strain gauges per foot.
Jim Vance wrote a book on running PMs. Its pretty good, but also written to sell you a Stryd
I'm looking at getting one once I can convince myself to buy a $200 you that might or might not have any value
If you ever do get one, I'd love to hear your thoughts after you've used it a while.
I've been tempted to get an insole-based one and put it in my ski boots. But if it's algorithms, all I'm going to do is confuse the thing. Like taking a new car with safety cameras into a car wash.0 -
SoulRadiation wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »fitbit also adds in your BMR. so its not all exercise calories.
I wonder what the difference is. Do you think the "Fitbit calorie adjustment" takes that into effect in terms of syncing with MFP? I've wondered about what is the best way to enter data collected from Fitbit here...I prefer this interface for logging food and enjoy the social aspect/feed/forums stuff.
So far what I would do is complete a "workout" that I started on my Fitbit, and then enter the calories it says as a new exercise over here. It seems to decrease the "Fitbit adjustment" as I would guess it should, but I really have no idea if they are in line with each other or if Fitbit is adding too many calories back into their "adjustment".
I was talking about this with a coworker who likes to do long bike rides and in so doing he burns a whole lot of calories. He didn't know, either. He did say that the longer you go on something like a long bike ride or a long run or walk or whatever...that you should expect you needed a certain number of those calories it was telling you just do keep doing whatever you would have otherwise been doing anyway so that they weren't all "exercise".
There's probably a good way to figure it all out, but as I feel like I'm eating a lot and exercising even more...and kind of a big person anyway...it probably isn't that important at my level, but I don't really know.
I don't eat back ALL of my exercise calories. But I feel like I have to eat back some or I would probably start feeling unwell with the level of walking and other exercise I'm doing.
I would sync your fitbit with MFP. the calorie adjustment is a formula it takes into account your BMR/ your deficit and your fitbit also works with that to give you your calorie burns.what you burn(the exercise calories it gives you back) is basically what you are burning. yeah its best to eat back some of your exercise calories as your deficit here at MFP is already built in without exercise.
if you have your fitbit synced and add the calories you burned manually then it will either give you an inflated number of calories burned or it could overwrite anything your fitbit shows. I have mine synced as it takes the guesswork out for me lol.everything is just an estimate anyway. but the more you workout the more calories you need to fuel your body and your workouts.
Im sure someone else can explain this a lot easier and more mathematically than what I can.1 -
misskris78 wrote: »If my GPS watch is accurate, I'm 140 #, Female, 38, and burn about 1650 calories during a 20 mile run at 10 min/mi. I sure as heck wouldn't want to do that 5-6 times per week.
Exactly. It takes me 3.5-4 hours to run a marathon and I don't even burn 2000 calories. Even for a larger person to get these kinds of burns from exercise on a regular basis would be pretty extraordinary.1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I would sync your fitbit with MFP. the calorie adjustment is a formula it takes into account your BMR/ your deficit and your fitbit also works with that to give you your calorie burns.what you burn(the exercise calories it gives you back) is basically what you are burning. yeah its best to eat back some of your exercise calories as your deficit here at MFP is already built in without exercise.
if you have your fitbit synced and add the calories you burned manually then it will either give you an inflated number of calories burned or it could overwrite anything your fitbit shows. I have mine synced as it takes the guesswork out for me lol.everything is just an estimate anyway. but the more you workout the more calories you need to fuel your body and your workouts.
Im sure someone else can explain this a lot easier and more mathematically than what I can.
I do have them synced now...I had some trouble getting that to work at first, but it seems to be working after I removed everything and added it back. One of my friends recommended logging my exercises anyway, which I'm doing...for support and also so I can look back and see what I was doing when it comes time to re-evaluate how everything is going.
MFP seems to aggregate your "cardio exercises" to keep you from pestering your friends with all of the wonderful things you do throughout the day (lol). I've found if I go for say a morning walk and walk for an hour or so I'll build up a "calorie adjustment". Then, when I "done" my Fitbit workout not only will I be able to see my "exercise" on Fitbit dashboard but if I log in here I'll see it pull data on-demand from Fitbit and adjust my "calorie adjustment".
My habit atm is to then log my exercise here with the number Fitbit gave me on the watch, and then I'll see the "calorie adjustment" number get decreased...but, lol, I don't know exactly what it's doing.
At first, I was really worried about it "doubling" my calories for exercise...but I don't think it's doing that. I'm not sure what to say about the calorie adjustment that's left after I log all of my exercises, though. I suspect Fitbit gives me a little more credit than I'm owed but, at my level of just trying to lose weight...amp up exercise and be able to eat roughly at my suspected maintenance level...it's probably irrelevant, as it's all estimates anyway and it doesn't matter if you're off by a couple of hundred calories even considering the exercise/food level.
I could see how that could translate into a performance or health issue if you were very fit or smaller/different goals of trying to gain weight.0 -
SoulRadiation wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I would sync your fitbit with MFP. the calorie adjustment is a formula it takes into account your BMR/ your deficit and your fitbit also works with that to give you your calorie burns.what you burn(the exercise calories it gives you back) is basically what you are burning. yeah its best to eat back some of your exercise calories as your deficit here at MFP is already built in without exercise.
if you have your fitbit synced and add the calories you burned manually then it will either give you an inflated number of calories burned or it could overwrite anything your fitbit shows. I have mine synced as it takes the guesswork out for me lol.everything is just an estimate anyway. but the more you workout the more calories you need to fuel your body and your workouts.
Im sure someone else can explain this a lot easier and more mathematically than what I can.
I do have them synced now...I had some trouble getting that to work at first, but it seems to be working after I removed everything and added it back. One of my friends recommended logging my exercises anyway, which I'm doing...for support and also so I can look back and see what I was doing when it comes time to re-evaluate how everything is going.
MFP seems to aggregate your "cardio exercises" to keep you from pestering your friends with all of the wonderful things you do throughout the day (lol). I've found if I go for say a morning walk and walk for an hour or so I'll build up a "calorie adjustment". Then, when I "done" my Fitbit workout not only will I be able to see my "exercise" on Fitbit dashboard but if I log in here I'll see it pull data on-demand from Fitbit and adjust my "calorie adjustment".
My habit atm is to then log my exercise here with the number Fitbit gave me on the watch, and then I'll see the "calorie adjustment" number get decreased...but, lol, I don't know exactly what it's doing.
At first, I was really worried about it "doubling" my calories for exercise...but I don't think it's doing that. I'm not sure what to say about the calorie adjustment that's left after I log all of my exercises, though. I suspect Fitbit gives me a little more credit than I'm owed but, at my level of just trying to lose weight...amp up exercise and be able to eat roughly at my suspected maintenance level...it's probably irrelevant, as it's all estimates anyway and it doesn't matter if you're off by a couple of hundred calories even considering the exercise/food level.
if you are losing weight then I really wouldnt worry too much,but once you get down to a smaller weight you may have to try and be more accurate with things. do you have negative adjustments enabled or?0
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