But I would have to add a HONEYBUN

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  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?

    Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.

    Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.

    If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.

    The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.

    Getting enough calories is just as important as nutrients.

    Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.

    Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan?

    so if it comes down to a honey bun or nothing, then go with nothing? Still makes zero sense...

    if the choice is under eating or poor nutrtion, poor nutrition is the better or the two poor choices..

    Bro, work on your reading comprehension. Nothing was said about not having the ability to get nutrient dense food. I also acknowledged the need for sufficient calories.

    My post you were quoting

    Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.

    Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan


    If there are no restrictions medically or availability-wise do you think something more nutrient dense than a honeybun should fill in a calorie gap from 900 to 1200 calories?

    I clearly stated my thoughts that OP should eat whatever gets her to, or over 1200, guess you did not read and comprehend that part....

    You forgot to add the part that the additional calories should be nutrient dense if at all possible, which is important for someone eating so few calories.
  • nicolepburgess91
    nicolepburgess91 Posts: 82 Member
    Okay I'm just done reading comments on this thread.
    1 - I never said I was okay with this. Hence the reason for the thread in the first place. I was looking for advice, not judgement.
    2 - the original post stated that the honey bun was an exaggeration. For crying out loud, not everything is literal.
    3 - my sugar has 10 calories per teaspoon. I use artificial because my blood sugar drops when I get too much real sugar.
    4 - I also never said I eat clean. I only stated that I try to eat more clean than gas station confections with no substance other than trans fats and sugars and carbs.
    I'm so done with this thread. I came looking for help and support for my diet and am, instead, being criticized for the very thing I pointed out as a problem, myself!
    To those that DID offer advice and support and information on pros of weighing food, thank you very much. I appreciate it greatly and will try to get a good scale as soon as possible.
    To those who have read this post and immediately want to give more backlash, have fun. I won't be coming back here to read it.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    You can always have your thread deleted. Good luck OP
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    I was thinking drinking the calories for a while, too. Like full-fat milk instead of water.
  • allyphoe
    allyphoe Posts: 618 Member
    OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?

    Going by other threads, 180, 5'4", no specific goal weight.

    Also going by other threads, possibly actually losing 2-3 pounds a week on average, but tends to lose in fits and starts.
  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
    You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?

    Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.

    Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.

    If she has not lost any weight in a month, she is not undereating. Eating more will make even more difficult to lose.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    allyphoe wrote: »
    OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?

    Going by other threads, 180, 5'4", no specific goal weight.

    Also going by other threads, possibly actually losing 2-3 pounds a week on average, but tends to lose in fits and starts.

    If this is true, it's alarming.
  • lilolilo920
    lilolilo920 Posts: 184 Member
    OP, if you do come back, I would just like to point out that to lose weight, all that is required is a calorie deficit. Clean eating (whatever that is), Atkins, paleo, keto, etc are all methods of doing so. I suggest to try to stop getting caught up in semantics-CICI is all you need!! I'd also like to warn you against having too high a deficit. Speaking from experience, the bad skin, hair loss, amenorrhea, and muscle and heart catabolism just isn't worth it.
    Good luck on your journey.
  • bbell1985
    bbell1985 Posts: 4,571 Member
    Honeybuns are kind of gross tho. Might as well get a freshly baked cinnamon bun or doughnut.
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    allyphoe wrote: »
    OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?

    Going by other threads, 180, 5'4", no specific goal weight.

    Also going by other threads, possibly actually losing 2-3 pounds a week on average, but tends to lose in fits and starts.

    So she eats 900 calories for a few days, starves to death, eats triple that the rest of the days and so on...
    OP, learn to eat real food, in normal quantities. The solution is neither starving, not eating junk food to hit your goal. On the long run, what you are doing is not sustainable.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?

    Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.

    Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.

    If she has not lost any weight in a month, she is not undereating. Eating more will make even more difficult to lose.

    if you read the whole thread she isn't not losing weight....
  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
    Steph38878 wrote: »
    Op if you're not losing weight and it's been a month it's not because you're under-eating but since you're not gaining weight it's due to you eating at maintenance. The good thing is now you found out what you can eat to maintain your weight. Now all you have to do is reduce your calories a bit.

    Tighten up your numbers and eat at a deficit eating the calories MyFitnessPal recommends you'll lose weight. If you're not using a food scale and just eating "clean" you might consider buying one.

    Good luck!!

    She states she's only eating 900 calories. Food scale for sure. But she needs to lower calories, she's already too low...

    But she's not losing weight... it's been a month food labels often underestimate calories, so she may be eating more than she actually thinks. For example, I'm 5'2 and MyFitnessPal mentioned that if I eat at 1200 calories I will lose 2 pounds a week. If I eat 900 calories a day I will be losing more than 2 pounds a week.

    If Op is able to disclose her height and current weight we would be able to help her more. For now I'm going with she's eating more than she thinks and thus not losing weight. Even if the Op is 4'8, 25 pounds, and 155 pounds maintenance would be at 1800 calories.
    As mentioned before she's eating at maintenance and thus not losing weight she needs a deficit to lose weight.

    I highly doubt that. I am 4'11, 45 years old and 105 pounds and my maintenance is only 1300ish before I add in exercise. However, I totally agree with you that she is eating much more than she thinks she is.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    The best explanation is probably that she eats like described for a few days, binges, and so ends up maintaining. If so, eating a more sustainable diet with more calories is the answer. But since she's gone, I guess we won't know.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Okay for example. I ended my day yesterday at 795 calories.
    Breakfast: chewy chocolate chip granola bar, coffee with 3 tsp of artificial sweetener. = 140
    Lunch: one serving canned tuna, drained. 1/8 cup nonfat plain greek yogurt = 185 calories
    Dinner: lean cuisine, spaghetti with meat sauce = 310
    Snack: 3 servings of croutons (they're like chips to me) which was 120 calories.
    Snack 2: large ice pop= 50 calories

    I ate all day, had 6 bottles of water throughout the day. I was just full... I didn't want to eat anymore. I knew I could afford 405 calories and I legitimately searched for anything to reach that and couldn't even think to eat more.
    HOWEVER, I did experience a "whoosh" on the scale this morning. It shows a 3 pound loss in 24 hours. This, after no changes for about 3 and a half weeks.
    I understand the benefits of weighing foods. I could very well be eating more calories than I think. But I can't afford a decent food scale nor do I have time to weight everything I eat. I still don't believe I'm eating 400 more calories than I think I am.

    And that to you is a 'clean' diet?

    Please take a multi vitamin seeing as you eat no fruit or veg.

    I was going to say much the same thing. No vegetables. No fruit. primarily heavily processed convenience foods. Predominantly nutrient poor convenience foods. yowsa. I do hope you consider adding some vegetables, healthy fats, and a multi-vitamin.
  • daniellemichellecowger
    daniellemichellecowger Posts: 46 Member
    I used to eat less than a thousand calories a day. But let me say that it really wasn't healthy (I had body image issues). I was 118 lbs at 5'3" and I was skin and bones with no muscle. You can't build muscle eating like that. You have to just find a plan that works for you, that you can maintain. You can loose weight faster by not eating, but at what cost? And you'll probably just gain it back.
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