But I would have to add a HONEYBUN
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Packerjohn wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.
The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.
Getting enough calories is just as important as nutrients.
Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.
Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan?
so if it comes down to a honey bun or nothing, then go with nothing? Still makes zero sense...
if the choice is under eating or poor nutrtion, poor nutrition is the better or the two poor choices..
Bro, work on your reading comprehension. Nothing was said about not having the ability to get nutrient dense food. I also acknowledged the need for sufficient calories.
My post you were quoting
Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.
Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan
If there are no restrictions medically or availability-wise do you think something more nutrient dense than a honeybun should fill in a calorie gap from 900 to 1200 calories?
I clearly stated my thoughts that OP should eat whatever gets her to, or over 1200, guess you did not read and comprehend that part....
You forgot to add the part that the additional calories should be nutrient dense if at all possible, which is important for someone eating so few calories.3 -
nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Okay for example. I ended my day yesterday at 795 calories.
Breakfast: chewy chocolate chip granola bar, coffee with 3 tsp of artificial sweetener. = 140
Lunch: one serving canned tuna, drained. 1/8 cup nonfat plain greek yogurt = 185 calories
Dinner: lean cuisine, spaghetti with meat sauce = 310
Snack: 3 servings of croutons (they're like chips to me) which was 120 calories.
Snack 2: large ice pop= 50 calories
I ate all day, had 6 bottles of water throughout the day. I was just full... I didn't want to eat anymore. I knew I could afford 405 calories and I legitimately searched for anything to reach that and couldn't even think to eat more.
HOWEVER, I did experience a "whoosh" on the scale this morning. It shows a 3 pound loss in 24 hours. This, after no changes for about 3 and a half weeks.
I understand the benefits of weighing foods. I could very well be eating more calories than I think. But I can't afford a decent food scale nor do I have time to weight everything I eat. I still don't believe I'm eating 400 more calories than I think I am.
There are really only three possibilities:- You are not being honest with yourself, and/or your measuring is way off, and you are eating more than you think.
- You have developed a disordered way of dealing with food and your body is no longer giving you appropriate hunger signals, and you are undereating and underfueling your body.
- There is something medically wrong and you need to see a doctor. No adult woman should feel full on 900 cals or less every day. Sure every once and awhile it might happen, but routinely eating that little should leave you starving.
I got my food scale for $13 on Amazon. It takes literally seconds to weigh your portions, especially on a day like the one you posted where you are mostly eating convenience foods. It would take me less than a minute to weigh everything you listed for the day. If you are really eating less than 900 cals per day every day, please take a little time to figure out why, best of luck.5 -
Okay I'm just done reading comments on this thread.
1 - I never said I was okay with this. Hence the reason for the thread in the first place. I was looking for advice, not judgement.
2 - the original post stated that the honey bun was an exaggeration. For crying out loud, not everything is literal.
3 - my sugar has 10 calories per teaspoon. I use artificial because my blood sugar drops when I get too much real sugar.
4 - I also never said I eat clean. I only stated that I try to eat more clean than gas station confections with no substance other than trans fats and sugars and carbs.
I'm so done with this thread. I came looking for help and support for my diet and am, instead, being criticized for the very thing I pointed out as a problem, myself!
To those that DID offer advice and support and information on pros of weighing food, thank you very much. I appreciate it greatly and will try to get a good scale as soon as possible.
To those who have read this post and immediately want to give more backlash, have fun. I won't be coming back here to read it.2 -
You can always have your thread deleted. Good luck OP3
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »For the most part I try to avoid things with ingredient lists this long:
enriched flour (wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), sugar, water, palm oil, vegetable shortening (soybean oil and palm oil with added mono- and diglycerides), yeast, contains 2% or less of each of the following: dextrose, salt, cornstarch, soy flour, monoglycerides, corn syrup, calcium carbonate, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda), datem, soy lecithin, soybean oil, dried honey, cinnamon, calcium sulfate, agar, colored with extracts of annatto and turmeric, titanium dioxide (for color), natural and artificial flavor, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, preserved with calcium propionate, sodium propionate, and potassium sorbate
Because....?
Because I prefer to eat as clean as possible. I'm not 100% into clean eating. But I would like to eat as clean as I can.
For the record, I believe it was this post that led most of us to believe you were saying you 'eat clean.' That's a loaded phrase around here, obviously. I hope you got some useful information from this thread, at the very least, that you can use going forward. No backlash.8 -
nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Okay I'm just done reading comments on this thread.
1 - I never said I was okay with this. Hence the reason for the thread in the first place. I was looking for advice, not judgement.
2 - the original post stated that the honey bun was an exaggeration. For crying out loud, not everything is literal.
3 - my sugar has 10 calories per teaspoon. I use artificial because my blood sugar drops when I get too much real sugar.
4 - I also never said I eat clean. I only stated that I try to eat more clean than gas station confections with no substance other than trans fats and sugars and carbs.
I'm so done with this thread. I came looking for help and support for my diet and am, instead, being criticized for the very thing I pointed out as a problem, myself!
To those that DID offer advice and support and information on pros of weighing food, thank you very much. I appreciate it greatly and will try to get a good scale as soon as possible.
To those who have read this post and immediately want to give more backlash, have fun. I won't be coming back here to read it.
Have you had a chance to check out the list I linked to? I ask, because based on your sample menu from yesterday it looks like you haven't implemented any of the suggestions so far. Are there suggested foods that sound good to you? What kinds of things are you going to try next?
What about adding a couple of glasses of V8 or a smoothie for some micronutrients? It's often easier to drink calories than to eat them.5 -
I was thinking drinking the calories for a while, too. Like full-fat milk instead of water.2
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fitoverfortymom wrote: »OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?
Going by other threads, 180, 5'4", no specific goal weight.
Also going by other threads, possibly actually losing 2-3 pounds a week on average, but tends to lose in fits and starts.3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If she has not lost any weight in a month, she is not undereating. Eating more will make even more difficult to lose.2 -
fitoverfortymom wrote: »OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?
Going by other threads, 180, 5'4", no specific goal weight.
Also going by other threads, possibly actually losing 2-3 pounds a week on average, but tends to lose in fits and starts.
If this is true, it's alarming.2 -
OP, if you do come back, I would just like to point out that to lose weight, all that is required is a calorie deficit. Clean eating (whatever that is), Atkins, paleo, keto, etc are all methods of doing so. I suggest to try to stop getting caught up in semantics-CICI is all you need!! I'd also like to warn you against having too high a deficit. Speaking from experience, the bad skin, hair loss, amenorrhea, and muscle and heart catabolism just isn't worth it.
Good luck on your journey.4 -
Honeybuns are kind of gross tho. Might as well get a freshly baked cinnamon bun or doughnut.4
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fitoverfortymom wrote: »OP, what are your current stats (height, weight, etc.) and your goal weight?
Going by other threads, 180, 5'4", no specific goal weight.
Also going by other threads, possibly actually losing 2-3 pounds a week on average, but tends to lose in fits and starts.
So she eats 900 calories for a few days, starves to death, eats triple that the rest of the days and so on...
OP, learn to eat real food, in normal quantities. The solution is neither starving, not eating junk food to hit your goal. On the long run, what you are doing is not sustainable.2 -
nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Okay for example. I ended my day yesterday at 795 calories.
Breakfast: chewy chocolate chip granola bar, coffee with 3 tsp of artificial sweetener. = 140
Lunch: one serving canned tuna, drained. 1/8 cup nonfat plain greek yogurt = 185 calories
Dinner: lean cuisine, spaghetti with meat sauce = 310
Snack: 3 servings of croutons (they're like chips to me) which was 120 calories.
Snack 2: large ice pop= 50 calories
I ate all day, had 6 bottles of water throughout the day. I was just full... I didn't want to eat anymore. I knew I could afford 405 calories and I legitimately searched for anything to reach that and couldn't even think to eat more.
HOWEVER, I did experience a "whoosh" on the scale this morning. It shows a 3 pound loss in 24 hours. This, after no changes for about 3 and a half weeks.
I understand the benefits of weighing foods. I could very well be eating more calories than I think. But I can't afford a decent food scale nor do I have time to weight everything I eat. I still don't believe I'm eating 400 more calories than I think I am.
1. Buy dried beans that would last you ages for the price of one Lean Cuisine meal or less.
2. Replace Lean cuisine with a bean dish every night for a week.
3. You now have enough money for a food scale.9 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If she has not lost any weight in a month, she is not undereating. Eating more will make even more difficult to lose.
if you read the whole thread she isn't not losing weight....0 -
xchocolategirl wrote: »Steph38878 wrote: »xchocolategirl wrote: »Op if you're not losing weight and it's been a month it's not because you're under-eating but since you're not gaining weight it's due to you eating at maintenance. The good thing is now you found out what you can eat to maintain your weight. Now all you have to do is reduce your calories a bit.
Tighten up your numbers and eat at a deficit eating the calories MyFitnessPal recommends you'll lose weight. If you're not using a food scale and just eating "clean" you might consider buying one.
Good luck!!
She states she's only eating 900 calories. Food scale for sure. But she needs to lower calories, she's already too low...
But she's not losing weight... it's been a month food labels often underestimate calories, so she may be eating more than she actually thinks. For example, I'm 5'2 and MyFitnessPal mentioned that if I eat at 1200 calories I will lose 2 pounds a week. If I eat 900 calories a day I will be losing more than 2 pounds a week.
If Op is able to disclose her height and current weight we would be able to help her more. For now I'm going with she's eating more than she thinks and thus not losing weight. Even if the Op is 4'8, 25 pounds, and 155 pounds maintenance would be at 1800 calories.
As mentioned before she's eating at maintenance and thus not losing weight she needs a deficit to lose weight.
I highly doubt that. I am 4'11, 45 years old and 105 pounds and my maintenance is only 1300ish before I add in exercise. However, I totally agree with you that she is eating much more than she thinks she is.2 -
The best explanation is probably that she eats like described for a few days, binges, and so ends up maintaining. If so, eating a more sustainable diet with more calories is the answer. But since she's gone, I guess we won't know.3
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TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Okay for example. I ended my day yesterday at 795 calories.
Breakfast: chewy chocolate chip granola bar, coffee with 3 tsp of artificial sweetener. = 140
Lunch: one serving canned tuna, drained. 1/8 cup nonfat plain greek yogurt = 185 calories
Dinner: lean cuisine, spaghetti with meat sauce = 310
Snack: 3 servings of croutons (they're like chips to me) which was 120 calories.
Snack 2: large ice pop= 50 calories
I ate all day, had 6 bottles of water throughout the day. I was just full... I didn't want to eat anymore. I knew I could afford 405 calories and I legitimately searched for anything to reach that and couldn't even think to eat more.
HOWEVER, I did experience a "whoosh" on the scale this morning. It shows a 3 pound loss in 24 hours. This, after no changes for about 3 and a half weeks.
I understand the benefits of weighing foods. I could very well be eating more calories than I think. But I can't afford a decent food scale nor do I have time to weight everything I eat. I still don't believe I'm eating 400 more calories than I think I am.
And that to you is a 'clean' diet?
Please take a multi vitamin seeing as you eat no fruit or veg.
I was going to say much the same thing. No vegetables. No fruit. primarily heavily processed convenience foods. Predominantly nutrient poor convenience foods. yowsa. I do hope you consider adding some vegetables, healthy fats, and a multi-vitamin.3 -
I used to eat less than a thousand calories a day. But let me say that it really wasn't healthy (I had body image issues). I was 118 lbs at 5'3" and I was skin and bones with no muscle. You can't build muscle eating like that. You have to just find a plan that works for you, that you can maintain. You can loose weight faster by not eating, but at what cost? And you'll probably just gain it back.0
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