Doc said to cut carbs and sugar..
varia2u
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But he never said my body would feel malnourished. I generally eat healthy but now I spend more time looking for carbs. I can't plan meals until I figure this out. Can anyone relate?
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What led up to the advice? Did he give a target number?1
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Do you have a target? "cut carbs and sugar" is kind of ambiguous so it's hard to help. If you've been eating a lot of carbs those first few days to a week can be kind of rough. There are things you can do to help the transition but without more info on how you need to eat, it's hard to help. You may not need to go low enough to have to deal with all that.
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why did he tell you to cut carbs?.1
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cut down or cut out completely? and for what reason?0
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What are you now eating, what were you eating before?0
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if he told you to cut out something, did he provide you with a recommendation to see a RD to help figure out what you now can/can't eat?0
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Do you have hyperinsulemia, diabetic?0
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Did he give you a range of carbs to eat or cut out completely? Did he tell you if you go low carbs or keto that you probably should the amount of increase good fats you are eating?0
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Thanks for all the replies. Primary reason is due to high blood sugar. Weight is a secondary factor though not crucial probably because my BP, cholesterol, and other numbers have always been in the normal/low range. He didn't give a target number but did advise that I see a nutritionist, which I plan to do. He gave me a booklet which listed every kitchen staple as no good:certain veggies, starchy legumes, pasta, rice, whole grains, sugar etc as a no-no.
It lists meat, cheese, eggs, butter, and non starchy veggies as okay.
My typical diet before all this consisted of all veggies, fish, rice, fruit, eggs, coffee, whole grains/wheat, occasional shrimp, and dairy minus straight cow's milk. Snd bread.
Limited: pasta, meat maybe once or twice a week, red meat once in a blue moon and no pork at all.
I don't drink soda, rarely drink juice, and rarely eat fast food and then I'm selective if I do.
Cooking methods: boil, saute, steam, and bake. When I cook I tend to cut the sugar called for in a recipe. I never ever cook anything that calls for a cup of sugar (brownies, anyone?).
Yes, I like bread, both eating and baking.
Snacks: Not so much and I don't have a sweet tooth.
Some members on one side of my family have diabetes, though not sure what type. The other side is healthy with no significant issues.
Now I am trying to eat more meat (not a fan), loading up on veggies, salad, tons of eggs. Bread I will eat when I'm feeling particularly starved, not more than 2 slices a day. Haven't had pasta since the doc visit and have been using Swerve sweetener instead of sugar.
Other than high sugar my health is good. BP is always on the low end, low cholesterol and so on.
Exercise habits: I try though admittedly I need to get back on a routine. Biggest setback is i travel a lot. 5 hours in a car can wipe a person out. My preferences for workouts are calisthenics, insanity, some P90X, weight training. Nothing "extreme".
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You have a smart doctor. I had to discover this on my own. I started with taking my sugar six times a day. Pre and 2 hour post prandial. I discovered which foods elevated my blood glucose and eliminated them from my diet. My A1c is now normal and my blood sugars average around 98. You can do a web search for this and visit dietdoctor.com for more information on this subject.
Good luck and healthy life!
Forgot to mention, I weighed 180 pounds a year ago and am now down to 144. Female, 5'8", age 62. Low carb diet started June 2016. Loosing the weight was easy peasy.2 -
When you cut carbs, you need to increase fats to feel fuller. Healthy fats, of course. I eat a lot of eggs, bacon(healthy-ish) and avocado. I also eat a lot of cheeses and meats, I looove steak!!2
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Hthrbee1978 wrote: »When you cut carbs, you need to increase fats to feel fuller. Healthy fats, of course. I eat a lot of eggs, bacon(healthy-ish) and avocado. I also eat a lot of cheeses and meats, I looove steak!!
Out of curiosity, what do you consider "unhealthy fats"? Trans?0 -
Thanks for all the replies. Primary reason is due to high blood sugar. Weight is a secondary factor though not crucial probably because my BP, cholesterol, and other numbers have always been in the normal/low range. He didn't give a target number but did advise that I see a nutritionist, which I plan to do. He gave me a booklet which listed every kitchen staple as no good:certain veggies, starchy legumes, pasta, rice, whole grains, sugar etc as a no-no.
Ah, this is helpful. I'd say that the nutritionist (RD?) should be useful and you should talk to him or her about your current eating and what you find satisfying and so on.
Often weight loss alone (if you have weight to lose) will resolve blood sugar issues, and there's also no need to go low carb for many people, although it can be helpful advice. Often doctors assume that you won't be all that compliant so have more extreme advice (cut out X!) assuming that means you will eat it less. Don't know here, but the nutritionist will sort it out, and it doesn't seem like you really need to immediately go low carb. Maybe try cutting back on carbs and making sure that you are eating them with protein and fiber? Your diet before doesn't sound back, but perhaps it was unbalanced and could be made more balanced by adjusting portions or changing it around if there were lots of meals or snacks that were largely just carbs or very high carb and low protein (common for some with breakfast and snacks, sometimes lunch).
In your first post you sounded like you weren't satisfied with your new diet, is there something that feels missing or unsatisfying?2 -
Check out diet doctor.com. It has all kinds of information and videos on cutting carbs2
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High blood sugar = likely type 2 diabetes (or possibly 'pre diabetes'). Read up on diabetic diets and adopt that. There are cookbooks and all sorts of support material.2
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Hthrbee1978 wrote: »When you cut carbs, you need to increase fats to feel fuller. Healthy fats, of course. I eat a lot of eggs, bacon(healthy-ish) and avocado. I also eat a lot of cheeses and meats, I looove steak!!
Out of curiosity, what do you consider "unhealthy fats"? Trans?
For myself, I try to avoid trans fats, anything hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated, margarine (fake butters), vegetable oils. I prefer using coconut and olive oils.1 -
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Thank you all for the amazing replies.
@Aquawave I like that idea of testing then targeting the culprit foods. It seems like a good approach instead of drastically slashing carbs.
@Hthrbee1978 I like cheese and always use butter (not margarine), but I'm not much if a carnivore. Clearly I'll have to increase my protein intake.
@lemurcat12 I think you might be on to something with the unbalanced diet part. Yet how do vegetarians manage to stay healthy?
This is quite a mystery.
You're right, I'm not satisfied because, well, I'm starving! At least that's how it feels. Went to bed last night feeling hungry and woke up feeling like a hungry tiger. I'm slowly finding low carb recipes to try but in the meantime I feel like I'm running on empty.
I will check out the website everyone recommended and so far I'm still on the hunt for new recipes. Although I'm not diabetic, taking that approach seems to be the only way to not tip over the edge until I can see a nutritionist.
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can you open up your diary? so we can see what you are currently eating? (even better would be a pre-doctor and post-doctor recommendation log so we could compare)0
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Hthrbee1978 wrote: »When you cut carbs, you need to increase fats to feel fuller. Healthy fats, of course. I eat a lot of eggs, bacon(healthy-ish) and avocado. I also eat a lot of cheeses and meats, I looove steak!!
Out of curiosity, what do you consider "unhealthy fats"? Trans?
I avoid most trans fats, and lean more toward fresh real butter and seed oils, avocado oils etc..
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Not related to what you're eating, but when I had gestational diabetes, it was strongly recommended to me to walk after every meal to help regulate blood sugar. Is that something you could try to implement, at least as often as you can? Walking is even less intense than the other exercises you mentioned.
As others said, try increasing fats to help you feel satisfied when eating less carbs. For bread, have you looked into any low carb/paleo bread recipes? I know they're not the same as good gluten-y breads, but there are recipes that use coconut flour, or almond flour, and you might find one you like. It's worth a try if you don't mind experimenting.1 -
noclady1995 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Hthrbee1978 wrote: »When you cut carbs, you need to increase fats to feel fuller. Healthy fats, of course. I eat a lot of eggs, bacon(healthy-ish) and avocado. I also eat a lot of cheeses and meats, I looove steak!!
Out of curiosity, what do you consider "unhealthy fats"? Trans?
For myself, I try to avoid trans fats, anything hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated, margarine (fake butters), vegetable oils. I prefer using coconut and olive oils.
You... avoid vegetable oils, and use coconut and olive oils? Although coconuts and olives are technically fruits, their oils are classed as vegetable oil. And chemically, they are no different to things like rapeseed oil (canola) and sunflower oil. And my margarine uses only olive oil, so not all margarine is created equal!
OP, if you're at risk of diabetes, maybe reducing carbs is a good idea. But there's no need to eliminate them. Losing weight is the best way to sort out blood sugar.2 -
MarziPanda95 wrote: »noclady1995 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Hthrbee1978 wrote: »When you cut carbs, you need to increase fats to feel fuller. Healthy fats, of course. I eat a lot of eggs, bacon(healthy-ish) and avocado. I also eat a lot of cheeses and meats, I looove steak!!
Out of curiosity, what do you consider "unhealthy fats"? Trans?
For myself, I try to avoid trans fats, anything hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated, margarine (fake butters), vegetable oils. I prefer using coconut and olive oils.
You... avoid vegetable oils, and use coconut and olive oils? Although coconuts and olives are technically fruits, their oils are classed as vegetable oil. And chemically, they are no different to things like rapeseed oil (canola) and sunflower oil. And my margarine uses only olive oil, so not all margarine is created equal!
OP, if you're at risk of diabetes, maybe reducing carbs is a good idea. But there's no need to eliminate them. Losing weight is the best way to sort out blood sugar.
I believe the person meant vegetable seed oils and that is an issue for a different thread. Hyperinsulemia causes weight gain, not the other way around. It is a complex metabolic issue that has been vehemently argued about on these discussion boards. Just trying to loose the weight without getting to the underlying cause, high insulin levels, still results in issues (including diabetes and heart disease). Depending on the severity of the condition, eating to your blood glucose meter can help you figure out how many grams of carbs you can eat. I can eat about 20-30 grams a day and my glucose stays within a range of 75 to 120. As an example, a slice of whole, multi grain bread would cause my two hour postprandial glucose to go up to 180, so I do not eat bread or any kind of grain. YMMV
I do not have the time to do a dissertation on this subject, so visiting the other website for explanations is best and joining the Low Carber Daily Forum is also very helpful.1 -
Sounds like you should be doing Keto then 1
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@varia2u Lots of people cutting carbs and sugar and many of them diabetic over at:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group0 -
OP: I was diagnosed T2Dm 3 years ago. I reduced my carbs but I have not gone low carb. My BG numbers are great.
I eat a maximum of 160 grams of carbs per day, per my doctor's recommendation. She is a Certified Diabetic Educator so is up on all the newest research. I eat bread, fruit, veggies, pasta, legumes, whole grains (bowl of oatmeal most mornings). I just don't eat all of it in one day.
Typical day for me:
Breakfast is coffee with half and half and a bowl of oatmeal
Lunch is Greek yogurt, and sandwich with only one slice of bread and some kind of meat, and some fruit
Dinner typically starts with a big salad and is often a one-pot meal with meat, veggies, and a starch which may be beans, dal, brown rice, pasta, or potatoes.
Snacks are usually protein snacks like eggs, nuts, more yogurt with protein powder mixed in, etc.
Cutting carbs is the first way to manage high blood glucose, but many do not need to go low carb. Exercise also helps.1 -
I found cutting carbs easier if I use vegetables instead of pasta, bread or rice under my protein. For example, I love cauliflower and broccoli rice, and zuchinni noodles. I put eggs or turkey or chicken or fish over them just like someone might use rice or spaghetti. I still get plenty of carbs from my fruit like berries and things like sweet potatoes and oatmeal. I like nuts and avocados for fats as they are tasty and reduce my hunger.1
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Thanks for clarifying.Hthrbee1978 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Hthrbee1978 wrote: »When you cut carbs, you need to increase fats to feel fuller. Healthy fats, of course. I eat a lot of eggs, bacon(healthy-ish) and avocado. I also eat a lot of cheeses and meats, I looove steak!!
Out of curiosity, what do you consider "unhealthy fats"? Trans?
I avoid most trans fats, and lean more toward fresh real butter and seed oils, avocado oils etc..0 -
I found cutting carbs easier if I use vegetables instead of pasta, bread or rice under my protein. For example, I love cauliflower and broccoli rice, and zuchinni noodles. I put eggs or turkey or chicken or fish over them just like someone might use rice or spaghetti. I still get plenty of carbs from my fruit like berries and things like sweet potatoes and oatmeal. I like nuts and avocados for fats as they are tasty and reduce my hunger.
I discovered the joys of zoodles last week. I love the stuff
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