Blood sugar diet !
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Alatariel75 wrote: »The blood sugar diet is for everyone diabetic or not, read the book back to front
I trust Micheal mosley out of all the scientists plus I know people who have done the 5:2 who lost a lot of weight and kept it off I love avacado they are my life saver! Instead of pasta I have sweet potatoe, hits the spot haha !
Michael Mosely is not a scientist. He is a journalist with a degree in psychiatry (never practiced). He combines these skills to sell books.
I think psychiatry is a science, he would have studied loads of general science, all his reports are extremely scientific. Gets my vote anyway.
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Many children eat more than this a day. Adults are malnutritioned when under 1000 calories many times and it's likely a reason they suffer health issues. Not to mention you're applying some of those calories to vodka. And alcohol can screw up your blood sugar levels which is supposed approach of this diet.
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This is nothing more than a fad diet, unless you're medically supervised, eating less than 1,000 calories is dangerous. Your body needs the necessary nutrition to function properly. People write books over diets, because the masses of people that want to lose weight quickly will buy them.4
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Im starting my BSD journey this morning. Using it as a tool to kick start my weight loss. Well done Kimmisuee on your loss!3
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Wynterbourne wrote: »Alatariel75 wrote: »The blood sugar diet is for everyone diabetic or not, read the book back to front I trust Micheal mosley out of all the scientists plus I know people who have done the 5:2 who lost a lot of weight and kept it off I love avacado they are my life saver! Instead of pasta I have sweet potatoe, hits the spot haha !
Michael Mosely is not a scientist. He is a journalist with a degree in psychiatry (never practiced). He combines these skills to sell books.
Phycology * and that is a science
According to my Google results, he's a journalist and producer. He went to school to become a psychiatrist, but left without completing his degree. You need to research him a tad more.
5:2 or zig zag dieting is not a new concept. It's just something Michael Mosely recycled to cashed in on.
This book doesn't contain real science. He wrote the first chapter or two.....my blood tests before.....my blood tests after kind of thing. Then the primary writer took over......now that we have proof. Um what? How is this any kind of proof. I'm not a scientist (either) but even I know anecdotal "evidence" when I see it.
One persons result is hardly proof. So many factors could have contributed to positive results: any weight loss may have triggered positive results, exercise may have triggered positive results, diet type (ie: Mediterranean) may have triggered positive results, genetic factors may have triggered positive results.
I'm not inclined to read the Blood Sugar Diet.......my guess is the same standards of "science" are applied there.
Don't worry I'll be your proof !
I see that your are excited....but you missed the whole point of my post. Your anecdotal "evidence" isn't proof of any kind. Scientific studies contain control groups (this costs money). This diet compared to a more standard diet. People with the same health markers compared to other people with the same health markers.....the ONLY difference being the type of diet they chose.
Just losing weight IN ANY MANNER will improve certain health markers. Just adding exercise can improve health markers too. The real question is can you attribute those improvements to this specific plan......nope.
Britain's Dr. Oz..............7 -
You know whatever works for you in the end of the day I see a lot of negativity (and some lovely positivity and support) about this diet and as someone who can't eat a lot of food anyway without feeling sick or spending the day on the toilet (sorry not sorry) this is the first time I've felt good and in control of my food might not be for everyone but the book makes sence and it's working for me
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You know whatever works for you in the end of the day I see a lot of negativity (and some lovely positivity and support) about this diet and as someone who can't eat a lot of food anyway without feeling sick or spending the day on the toilet (sorry not sorry) this is the first time I've felt good and in control of my food might not be for everyone but the book makes sence and it's working for me
a very low calorie diet would work for anyone but it doesnt make it safe. not to mention the lean mass one would lose while eating this way and also the other health issues that can stem from a VLCD.5 -
From the BBC-Michael Mosley
Michael Mosley studied medicine in London and qualified as a doctor but for the last 25 years he’s been working as a documentary maker and an award winning science journalist.
His programmes have won an RTS, an EMMY and he was named ‘medical journalist of the year’ by the British Medical Association for a ground-breaking programme on Helicobacter pylori.
His most recent work includes Countdown to Life: The extraordinary making of you and various episodes of Horizon, including investigations of the benefits of high intensity exercise and the impact of e-cigarettes. He’s also a regular presenter on The One Show.
In Trust Me I’m a Doctor, Michael investigates the latest evidence behind health claims and headlines – for instance, whether sugar is really the new tobacco, how much is too much alcohol and whether we should worry about air pollution. He has also set up big experiments looking at the benefits of eating oily fish, whether cooking with turmeric can help prevent cancer and how to increase our levels of vitamin D.6 -
At least with him, he looks into scientific experiments to qualifying his findings. Unlike many documentaries that try to just skew information by cherry picking information and also not balancing it out with opposing views.karinrhodes wrote: »From the BBC-Michael Mosley
Michael Mosley studied medicine in London and qualified as a doctor but for the last 25 years he’s been working as a documentary maker and an award winning science journalist.
His programmes have won an RTS, an EMMY and he was named ‘medical journalist of the year’ by the British Medical Association for a ground-breaking programme on Helicobacter pylori.
His most recent work includes Countdown to Life: The extraordinary making of you and various episodes of Horizon, including investigations of the benefits of high intensity exercise and the impact of e-cigarettes. He’s also a regular presenter on The One Show.
In Trust Me I’m a Doctor, Michael investigates the latest evidence behind health claims and headlines – for instance, whether sugar is really the new tobacco, how much is too much alcohol and whether we should worry about air pollution. He has also set up big experiments looking at the benefits of eating oily fish, whether cooking with turmeric can help prevent cancer and how to increase our levels of vitamin D.
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I am also going to try the blood sugar diet... I have not seen any information about it being dangerous..I think it is about resetting how you see food. It is all about eating non-processed healthy foods it is only supposed to be done for 8 weeks. I have just watched How to stay young and they also recommended the 800 Cal diet. The results showed that fat was lost not muscle.
How is everyone else getting on? Any recipe recommendations?
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karinrhodes wrote: »I am also going to try the blood sugar diet... I have not seen any information about it being dangerous..I think it is about resetting how you see food. It is all about eating non-processed healthy foods it is only supposed to be done for 8 weeks. I have just watched How to stay young and they also recommended the 800 Cal diet. The results showed that fat was lost not muscle.
How is everyone else getting on? Any recipe recommendations?
Why not just eat a variety of healthy foods, at an appropriate calorie level to achieve your goals? Why a named diet, why only engage in something for 8 weeks? Also, eating 800 cals is not healthy, you will certainly lose both muscle and fat, probably some hair, your skin will be sallow and you will be so fatigued that you won't be able to exercise. Does that sound like something that will help you "stay young"?
Have you read the stickied most helpful forum posts?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300331/most-helpful-posts-getting-started-must-reads#latest
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here/p1
Reading these will be far more helpful than whereever you are getting these nonsense fad diet ideas from.5 -
You know whatever works for you in the end of the day I see a lot of negativity (and some lovely positivity and support) about this diet and as someone who can't eat a lot of food anyway without feeling sick or spending the day on the toilet (sorry not sorry) this is the first time I've felt good and in control of my food might not be for everyone but the book makes sence and it's working for me
If you aren't doing this for your blood sugar and you find that what you are eating makes you feel better then do it but up the foods you are eating to up the calories. It doesn't make sense to destroy your system with too few calories when you don't have blood sugar problems. There may be be a little science behind the blood sugar diet, but there is A LOT of science about the negative effects of eating too few calories. If you feel better eating this way then do but upping the calories shouldn't hurt your bowels since you would be eating the same things, just more. You talked a lot about it making sense to you, I hope this makes better sense
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Good for you Kimmisuee. Just wondering how its going? I started the BSD 2 weeks ago and I've found the food fairly easy to keep up with. I spoke to my dietitian about it who was very helpful. She pointed out the good and the bad. Her main concern was the lack of fibre which would impact some of the essential nutrients you get from grains and such so we decided to tweak it a bit by adding some Psyllium and brown rice along with a piece of fruit each day. So far I'm down 2kgs over 2 weeks which I'm more than happy with, I'm not in a hurry, just want to get the weight off and reduce the Diabetes risks. Hope you're still with it despite the negatives. Michael Mosely may or may not be a Scientist but not all scientists are good writers so their research doesn't make it to where it can be used by those who need it most.... cheers..
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Even if he isn't a scientist that doesn't obviate his work. His method has worked on me, so far. 10 days on the program and my A1C was within norms and my Dr told me to keep up the good work. And you do lose weight.
I'm following the 800 calorie diet but once my weight is acceptable to me, I will switch to 5-2 plan. I wonder if the naysayers have ever had a weight problem. Do they understand the emotional and physical impact of being over 100 lbs overweight. I've tried medically supervised plans that put me on 500 calories a day of soy based non-foods. Yes I lost weight, but difficult to stick with. And these packaged foods with artificial ingredients don't compare to a nice salad with protein and olive oil dressing. The eating is much healthier.
Also, the alternative, weight loss surgery is not fun. My daughter had a Rouen bypass. She is still overweight (thought not as grossly) still has health issues and has worse body image than before her surgery. After the surgery she said she would never freely submit to surgery again, so no surgery to remove excess fat. I didnt want that for her and I don't want it for myself. Plus she regularly has to have blood transfusions because her body no long processes iron
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So your alternatives areEven if he isn't a scientist that doesn't obviate his work. His method has worked on me, so far. 10 days on the program and my A1C was within norms and my Dr told me to keep up the good work. And you do lose weight.
I'm following the 800 calorie diet but once my weight is acceptable to me, I will switch to 5-2 plan. I wonder if the naysayers have ever had a weight problem. Do they understand the emotional and physical impact of being over 100 lbs overweight. I've tried medically supervised plans that put me on 500 calories a day of soy based non-foods. Yes I lost weight, but difficult to stick with. And these packaged foods with artificial ingredients don't compare to a nice salad with protein and olive oil dressing. The eating is much healthier.
Also, the alternative, weight loss surgery is not fun. My daughter had a Rouen bypass. She is still overweight (thought not as grossly) still has health issues and has worse body image than before her surgery. After the surgery she said she would never freely submit to surgery again, so no surgery to remove excess fat. I didnt want that for her and I don't want it for myself. Plus she regularly has to have blood transfusions because her body no long processes iron
1. 800 calories, then 5:2
2. 500 calories
3. Weight loss surgery
The naysayers suggest
4. Aiming for the target MFP gives you.
This naysayer had only 50 pounds to lose, so that doesn't count, I understand that, but I'm so happy I went with the naysayers, because the weight is still off, three years after I hit goal.3 -
Even if he isn't a scientist that doesn't obviate his work. His method has worked on me, so far. 10 days on the program and my A1C was within norms and my Dr told me to keep up the good work. And you do lose weight.
I'm following the 800 calorie diet but once my weight is acceptable to me, I will switch to 5-2 plan. I wonder if the naysayers have ever had a weight problem. Do they understand the emotional and physical impact of being over 100 lbs overweight. I've tried medically supervised plans that put me on 500 calories a day of soy based non-foods. Yes I lost weight, but difficult to stick with. And these packaged foods with artificial ingredients don't compare to a nice salad with protein and olive oil dressing. The eating is much healthier.
Also, the alternative, weight loss surgery is not fun. My daughter had a Rouen bypass. She is still overweight (thought not as grossly) still has health issues and has worse body image than before her surgery. After the surgery she said she would never freely submit to surgery again, so no surgery to remove excess fat. I didnt want that for her and I don't want it for myself. Plus she regularly has to have blood transfusions because her body no long processes iron
Since your A1c is a measure of your blood glucose levels for approximately the past three months (the lifespan of the type of blood cell they are looking at), ten days on a diet had zero impact on it. There are some reasons that science is better than not-science, and knowing what is significant and what's not is one of them.4 -
By the way, I'm pretty sure most of the nay-sayers know what it's like to have a weight problem. This is a weight loss forum. In my case I've lost 105 lbs and reduced my A1c from 11 to 4.7 by eating a balanced, moderate carb diet within my calories and exercising.7
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Even if he isn't a scientist that doesn't obviate his work. His method has worked on me, so far. 10 days on the program and my A1C was within norms and my Dr told me to keep up the good work. And you do lose weight.
I'm following the 800 calorie diet but once my weight is acceptable to me, I will switch to 5-2 plan. I wonder if the naysayers have ever had a weight problem. Do they understand the emotional and physical impact of being over 100 lbs overweight. I've tried medically supervised plans that put me on 500 calories a day of soy based non-foods. Yes I lost weight, but difficult to stick with. And these packaged foods with artificial ingredients don't compare to a nice salad with protein and olive oil dressing. The eating is much healthier.
Also, the alternative, weight loss surgery is not fun. My daughter had a Rouen bypass. She is still overweight (thought not as grossly) still has health issues and has worse body image than before her surgery. After the surgery she said she would never freely submit to surgery again, so no surgery to remove excess fat. I didnt want that for her and I don't want it for myself. Plus she regularly has to have blood transfusions because her body no long processes iron
Have you ever spent any time reading the success story section of these boards? There are countless examples of people who have lost significant amount of weight many have lost 100s of pounds, so yes, people on this site know what that feels like. Many also are diabetic and have been able to manage that, simply through losing weight, with no extreme restrictions on calories or diet overall.
What they also know is that extreme approaches like you're describing are rarely sustainable. Set MFP to lose 2 lbs/week. Eat a variety of foods that provide nutrition, satiety, and enjoyment within that calorie target. If your doctor wants you to limit carbs or added sugars to help manage your medical conditions then do that. The important thing is to eat at a calorie deficit that is not so extreme that it has other adverse effects. Log as accurately and honestly as possible, ideally using a food scale.3
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