How damaging is having too much sugar in your diet?
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ilovefood9998 wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »It's great that you have managed to cut it out, but like in your other posts you need to start eating a more nutritionally balanced diet. Cutting out the 4000 calories from the soda may help with weight loss but overall it is a deficit that is required for weight loss, so if you're hitting your calorie goal as a result of cutting it out then yes you will see weight loss.
There can be side-effects from sugar withdrawal so you may find yourself feeling a bit more fatigued or grumpy.
If you haven't been to a doctor since you were 6 it would definitely be worth going in for a checkup particularly given the lack of nutrition you are getting.
Yes, the withdrawal is literally killing me. Especially at this time of year when it gets warm the cravings just get worse and worse. I am in calories deficit. I would be having 2200 calories to maintain my weight but now instead I eat only 1500 calories a day.
It's likely caffeine withdrawal. Have some iced tea. I make it myself and use very little sugar.0 -
Sugar won't "kill" you unless it's you main cause for weight gain. It's basically just an energy source. If it's in excess, it will be stored as fat. Also realize that fruits and vegetables contain sugar in them as well.
Not that simple.
This week I found another issue with excessive sugar. It wreaked havoc on my sleep.
I consumed excessive ice cream and cake on the Mother Days and the left over on Tuesday and both nights I've had about 2 hours of sleep. The over all calorie amount I consumed since the weekend to now is still maintenance. It's just the sugar from the ice cream cake and the regular cake that was extraordinarily excessive.
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stevencloser wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
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Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Spaghetti sauce always gets thrown around.
I don't get that one. But, I've never used jarred sauce, either.
Yeah, I once calculated out how much of the tomato sauce's sugar content was added sugar since it stated how much tomato was used to make the jar. It was like 1-2 gram, the rest is from the tomatoes.
I have a tomato sauce with meat and lots of vegetables in my recipe box, absolutely no added sugar, and yet it still has 7 grams. The claims about sugar in pasta sauce tend to use a whole jar (which is dishonest) and the sugar from the tomatoes.
It's also common for recipes for tomato sauces to include a bit of sugar. I never add it (I usually don't have sugar on hand), but I have respected Italian cookbooks that suggest it.2 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »Sugar won't "kill" you unless it's you main cause for weight gain. It's basically just an energy source. If it's in excess, it will be stored as fat. Also realize that fruits and vegetables contain sugar in them as well.
Not that simple.
This week I found another issue with excessive sugar. It wreaked havoc on my sleep.
I consumed excessive ice cream and cake on the Mother Days and the left over on Tuesday and both nights I've had about 2 hours of sleep. The over all calorie amount I consumed since the weekend to now is still maintenance. It's just the sugar from the ice cream cake and the regular cake that was extraordinarily excessive.
How much are you talking about?
I'd say that excessive sugar on occasion may not be worth it to you, but aren't going to hurt you. Truly excessive amount (like it interferes with your sleep, although I've never experienced that personally) would be unhealthy if it occurred regularly, of course, even within calories, as tons of add sugar (in items that also have lots of calories from added fat, especially) within calories would leave little room for more nutrient dense foods.1 -
stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Probably not surprised that there is, but usually surprised about the amount. That's one of the factors that make people fat. They underestimate. Kinda like, regular whole apple is under-tasty. Caramel, choco covered apple is the standard.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »Sugar won't "kill" you unless it's you main cause for weight gain. It's basically just an energy source. If it's in excess, it will be stored as fat. Also realize that fruits and vegetables contain sugar in them as well.
Not that simple.
This week I found another issue with excessive sugar. It wreaked havoc on my sleep.
I consumed excessive ice cream and cake on the Mother Days and the left over on Tuesday and both nights I've had about 2 hours of sleep. The over all calorie amount I consumed since the weekend to now is still maintenance. It's just the sugar from the ice cream cake and the regular cake that was extraordinarily excessive.
and how know that is not just from say insomnia or something else, how?2 -
If you like the carbonation just get carbonated water and add a little bit of actual juice, not artificial sweeteners. It's a tiny bit sweet so its not completely boring, but I have actually grown to like drinking just plain carbonated water as well.0
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endlessfall16 wrote: »Sugar won't "kill" you unless it's you main cause for weight gain. It's basically just an energy source. If it's in excess, it will be stored as fat. Also realize that fruits and vegetables contain sugar in them as well.
Not that simple.
This week I found another issue with excessive sugar. It wreaked havoc on my sleep.
I consumed excessive ice cream and cake on the Mother Days and the left over on Tuesday and both nights I've had about 2 hours of sleep. The over all calorie amount I consumed since the weekend to now is still maintenance. It's just the sugar from the ice cream cake and the regular cake that was extraordinarily excessive.
Sure, one normal sized piece of birthday cake and one normal serving of ice cream and I feel sick for hours. Lots of fast sugar like that helps me sleep though.
I have learned that excessive salt right before bed will cause me to wake several times in the night. A happy benefit of giving up excessive salt for Lent, and then resuming, noticing difference in sleep patterns, and figuring it out.
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kshama2001 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »Sugar won't "kill" you unless it's you main cause for weight gain. It's basically just an energy source. If it's in excess, it will be stored as fat. Also realize that fruits and vegetables contain sugar in them as well.
Not that simple.
This week I found another issue with excessive sugar. It wreaked havoc on my sleep.
I consumed excessive ice cream and cake on the Mother Days and the left over on Tuesday and both nights I've had about 2 hours of sleep. The over all calorie amount I consumed since the weekend to now is still maintenance. It's just the sugar from the ice cream cake and the regular cake that was extraordinarily excessive.
Sure, one normal sized piece of birthday cake and one normal serving of ice cream and I feel sick for hours. Lots of fast sugar like that helps me sleep though.
I have learned that excessive salt right before bed will cause me to wake several times in the night. A happy benefit of giving up excessive salt for Lent, and then resuming, noticing difference in sleep patterns, and figuring it out.
I sleep terribly when I have too much salt for dinner. It's not just getting up to drink water (and then getting up to use the restroom), it's like I'm restless for a good part of the night. I only noticed it over the past couple of years so maybe it's middle age?0 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »Sugar won't "kill" you unless it's you main cause for weight gain. It's basically just an energy source. If it's in excess, it will be stored as fat. Also realize that fruits and vegetables contain sugar in them as well.
Not that simple.
This week I found another issue with excessive sugar. It wreaked havoc on my sleep.
I consumed excessive ice cream and cake on the Mother Days and the left over on Tuesday and both nights I've had about 2 hours of sleep. The over all calorie amount I consumed since the weekend to now is still maintenance. It's just the sugar from the ice cream cake and the regular cake that was extraordinarily excessive.
and how know that is not just from say insomnia or something else, how?
The next days I cut out all this added sugar and slept well!!!
I know it's all anecdote but is there truth about not eating so much sugar before bedtime that kids were taught? (not cavity issue because we can brush.)0 -
I used to be a 2-3 cans of Mtn Dew a day drinker. I love me some soda, but that stuff is just not healthy.
Research is showing it can increase your likelihood for developing all sorts of awful diseases like Alzheimers.
My caffeine fix comes from coffee (I do take mine with sugar, but soooo much less than I would have with soda) and I get my soda-feel from La Croix. La Croix has been a godsend. No sugar, no artificial sugar (I hate the taste), and it comes in a boatload of delicious flavors. The carbonation and flavors make me feel like I'm having soda, but without the guilt or need to run an extra 30 minutes.2 -
Sugar starts becoming an issue if you experience glucose spikes above 140. That can happen to young and slim people but it tends to affect people more as they age and is more common among the heavy.
Once BG starts going above 140, you can stat experiences some effects on your health. This is without high fasting BG too.
I'd limit your sugar if you can. Diet sodas are better than regular.1 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Probably not surprised that there is, but usually surprised about the amount. That's one of the factors that make people fat. They underestimate. Kinda like, regular whole apple is under-tasty. Caramel, choco covered apple is the standard.
Not a thought I've ever had.5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Probably not surprised that there is, but usually surprised about the amount. That's one of the factors that make people fat. They underestimate. Kinda like, regular whole apple is under-tasty. Caramel, choco covered apple is the standard.
Not a thought I've ever had.
Obviously not applicable for all but a good majority that make chocolate cover fruits come into existence.
It blew my mind the first time I saw caramel apples, choco strawberries, etc...why would anyone want make these sweet fruits every sweeter..but now I've come to accept that the sweet taste is arbitrary. This place also blew my mind when I read many people didn't eat/like vegetables! Most vegetables are completely non-sweet taste.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Probably not surprised that there is, but usually surprised about the amount. That's one of the factors that make people fat. They underestimate. Kinda like, regular whole apple is under-tasty. Caramel, choco covered apple is the standard.
Really? Where are carnival-type candied apples standard over regular ol' apples?10 -
stevencloser wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Probably not surprised that there is, but usually surprised about the amount. That's one of the factors that make people fat. They underestimate. Kinda like, regular whole apple is under-tasty. Caramel, choco covered apple is the standard.
Really? Where are carnival-type candied apples standard over regular ol' apples?
I thought Granny Smith with a side of PB was standard...8 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »Sugar won't "kill" you unless it's you main cause for weight gain. It's basically just an energy source. If it's in excess, it will be stored as fat. Also realize that fruits and vegetables contain sugar in them as well.
Not that simple.
This week I found another issue with excessive sugar. It wreaked havoc on my sleep.
I consumed excessive ice cream and cake on the Mother Days and the left over on Tuesday and both nights I've had about 2 hours of sleep. The over all calorie amount I consumed since the weekend to now is still maintenance. It's just the sugar from the ice cream cake and the regular cake that was extraordinarily excessive.
and how know that is not just from say insomnia or something else, how?
The next days I cut out all this added sugar and slept well!!!
I know it's all anecdote but is there truth about not eating so much sugar before bedtime that kids were taught? (not cavity issue because we can brush.)
I've never heard that. I have heard not to eat anything right before bed, but that's a combo of diet woo and legitimate concern about reflux and other digestion issues.0 -
There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
sorry but excess calories get stored as fat ..if you eat sugar in a calorie deficit it DOES NOT get stored as fat.
and has anyone seen my tin foil hat????????????
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stevencloser wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Probably not surprised that there is, but usually surprised about the amount. That's one of the factors that make people fat. They underestimate. Kinda like, regular whole apple is under-tasty. Caramel, choco covered apple is the standard.
Really? Where are carnival-type candied apples standard over regular ol' apples?
At Mrs. Prindables.
I think @endlessfall16 is extrapolating the existence of candied fruit to somehow mean that's the typical way they're eaten. Perhaps specific to the US?
If so, I've never experienced that. The only time I've seen that kind of treat widespread is on a holiday when it seems like everyone is gifted (or gifting) treats - candied fruit included.3 -
stevencloser wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Probably not surprised that there is, but usually surprised about the amount. That's one of the factors that make people fat. They underestimate. Kinda like, regular whole apple is under-tasty. Caramel, choco covered apple is the standard.
Really? Where are carnival-type candied apples standard over regular ol' apples?
At Mrs. Prindables.
I think @endlessfall16 is extrapolating the existence of candied fruit to somehow mean that's the typical way they're eaten. Perhaps specific to the US?
If so, I've never experienced that. The only time I've seen that kind of treat widespread is on a holiday when it seems like everyone is gifted (or gifting) treats - candied fruit included.
I'm in the US and the last time I saw someone eating candied fruit was around Christmas. One of my co-workers brought dried apricots dipped in chocolate, but that was definitely a special holiday thing. I can't remember the last time I saw it before that. Day-in-day-out, the people I see eating fruit are just eating regular old undipped and uncandied fruit.4 -
For a few weeks in Autumn in the American Midwest, "caramel apples" are a thing around Halloween through about Thanksgiving. Sometimes they are covered with nuts as well.
But having one is a treat. Plain apples or apple slices are still the norm.
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Wait..... you haven't seen a doctor since you were 6? Your parents never took you to your school physicals? The school never asked for records/vaccine records?1
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ilovefood9998 wrote: »Replacing sugar pop with diet pop or water is a great idea. Fruit juice... not as much... Eat your fruit!
Moving beyond that... you are an 18yo at the prime of your muscle building potential. It is crazy to be concerned with reducing a 2200 calorie diet into a 1500 calorie one to lose weight unless you are significantly overweight or obese. Which you have said you aren't.
First I would examine how accurate your calculations are, but beyond that, I would concentrate on increasing movement and exercise, eating a healthy variety of food in normal portions and possibly on strength building exercises as opposed to trying to reduce body weight by reducing food intake.
I am overweight I am 5'9 and around 185-190 pounds I need to be around 150 pounds I have zero muscle mass I want to lose weight first so then i can gain muscle afterwards. I need a calorie deficit in order to lose the weight first and thats why i am eating 1500 calorie. The removal of soda alone is 800 calories less per day. The only exercise I do is walk I can only do around 10 sit ups and the next day I will be aching
I don't know much about the whole muscle-building thing so I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can chime in, but I think perhaps you have this backwards.
If you're overweight you'll have some muscle from hauling the extra weight around. You want to keep that, by eating a decent amount of protein and getting some kind of resistance or strength training. It may be different for you because you're young, and as @PAV8888 said you have great muscle-building potential right now, so perhaps it'll be easier for you to gain muscle later. But the general advice I see given to people on these forums is to try and preserve as much muscle mass as possible while losing, because it's much harder to rebuild it.
(I did not do any strength training, even though I was aware that I should, and I regret it now. I'm 10lbs or so from my goal weight and I'm flabby, it's going to take some work to get me into a half-decent shape! Don't make my mistake. It's hard because I find it exhausting to do that kind of exercise, so I sympathise with you there, but we'll only get better at it by practicing. I don't think sit ups are going to help you very much, so look into bodyweight routines online or join a gym to lift weights if you're able to.)
Also, bear in mind that your body likely isn't done growing yet, so make sure that you give it good nutrition and enough energy even if you are trying to lose some weight. Don't give yourself health problems in the future by skimping on this now.
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"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."ilovefood9998 wrote: »Yes, the withdrawal is literally killing me.
- Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
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quiksylver296 wrote: »I switched my sugar tracker on here for fiber. I have no medical issues that require me to track my sugar. Sugar is a carb. Carbs are already tracked.
I switched sugar for fiber also.
I am diabetic managed by diet and exercise. I do not take insulin so I do not need to know how much sugar is in a particular meal. As a diabetic, TOTAL carbs is the one number I need to be aware of to manage my disease (no more than 160 grams per day, spread out over 4-5 meals). As the daughter of a man who died of colon cancer, fiber is a very important number to pay attention to. Sugar has no importance at all, except where it adds to the total carbs.
I did this and also switched fat to sodium because I realized Im not ready to stop eating way too many g of fat - if I die, I die. Meh. lol2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
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Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Spaghetti sauce always gets thrown around.
I don't get that one. But, I've never used jarred sauce, either.
Now SODIUM that I understand being shocked by. Geeze.1 -
Good job on tapering off the sugary sodas. What are you replacing the soda with? Are you drinking more water?
Here are links on sugar's effects on the body:- http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/how-sugar-affects-your-body
- http://articles.mercola.com/sugar-side-effects.aspx
- https://www.liverdoctor.com/is-a-candida-infection-driving-your-sugar-cravings/
Since "one pound / 16 oz" = 3500 calories, right off, if you are not eating these calories back, you will lose one pound a week.
The important thing to keep in mind is that your body will continue to crave sugars / carbs unless you address the underlying cause of the sugar cravings by eliminating the candida overgrowth.
(You can check if you have this by taking a glass of distilled water (it must be distilled, not tap and not fortified mineral water) and spitting in it. Put the glass in your medicine cabinet over night and then look at it the next day. If you see threads growing, it's yeast.)
https://www.candidasupport.org/resources/saliva-test/
BTWs - Yeast is bad... it can lead to cancer...
http://oralcancerfoundation.org/complications/candida/
We are going through this with my youngest brother right now... the yeast was virulent, unrelenting, and he lost his tongue and is being fed via a GI tube. Have a dentist check your mouth thoroughly and DO NOT skip these checkups or neglect your oral health. if you are smoking or chewing or packing - STOP!
I encourage you to also do everything you can to eliminate sugar at this level, address the yeast (if you have it) and work with a nutritionist / medical personnel to obtain a diet that you can live with the rest of your life.
yeast is usually caused by something. diabetes,thyroid issues,inflammatory diseases,people with weakened immune systems(including AIDS). meds,smoking,dry mouth and some vitamin deficiencies can also cause an overgrowth of yeast. it can be transmitted sexually. are you saying he lost his tongue to a yeast infection? or cancer?0 -
There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
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Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
If this were the case then I would have had diabetes by now with all the sugar I used to consume as a teen/young adult.I would have been fat then too,. I got fat eating too much,and being sedentary, and yes that was a mostly healthy diet then too. as for cholesterol causing heart attacks and strokes,thats been proven to happen in those who have genetic cholesterol issues because the liver cannot process fat/cholesterol properly.It still wont make you fat unless you eat more than you burn.
I am one of those people with a genetic cholesterol issue. I eat plenty of carbs(carbs=sugar). those who are healthy with regular high cholesterol usually arent the ones who have heart related issues(from cholesterol) a lot of that was pushed by pharmaceutical companies to get people on statins,a scare tactic if you will.some of us have to take statins though. oh and my cholesterol is now fine and I still consume sugar and I lost weight.less than 10lbs from a healthy BMI. some people can change their cholesterol issues by losing weight, some with eating less of certain macros and others need to do that and take meds.1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »I switched my sugar tracker on here for fiber. I have no medical issues that require me to track my sugar. Sugar is a carb. Carbs are already tracked.
I switched mine for iron. My hemoglobin came in at 115 at my last checkup, which is low enough to concern me, but high enough that the pharmacist told me not to panic. I noticed in the reports feature (here on MFP) that I was usually getting way below the RDA. Since I've started tracking it, I've been hitting it pretty consistently. We shall see what the bloodwork is like at the next checkup.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »There's nothing wrong with eating fruit. It contains vitamins and fibre. Sugary drinks are one of the worst things you can consume. Liquid sugar and empty calories with no nutritional value at all.
But the diabetes isn't because of sugar. It's much more likely because of your weight.rheddmobile wrote: »It's all fun and games until someone gets diabetes!
Which I did, this past winter, and it sucks, so be happy you stopped now. You're young and more than likely you have escaped any bad effects, but a checkup is a good idea anyway.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Of course sugar causes diabetes. If you consume too much sugar over a long period of time your pancreas gets worn out trying to produce enough insulin to deal with it and the end result is type 2 diabetes. Your liver takes all the excess sugar and turns what the body doesn't need for energy at that moment and turns it into fat. The fat produced is partly LDL cholesterol which in turn blocks your arteries and causes strokes and heart attacks. Your liver also starts to store fat which is not good. The sugar industry has attacked and tried to discredit every scientist who has tried to make this known to society.
No, eating sugar doesn't CAUSE diabetes.
I agree. Excess body fat can also mess with insulin secretion. It's a double edged sword. Over consumption of sugar will contribute heavily to both scenarios. If your level of consumption is under control then fine, no it won't cause type 2 diabetes on it's own. Sadly for some people that's not the case. Type 2 diabetes used to be something associated with age but now people are getting it younger all the time. Sugar is hidden in so much of the foods we eat and manufacturers hide it under the guises of so many different names. They put it in foods specifically aimed at dieters and label them fat free to fool us.
I have never understood the bold - even if you don't know that some of the ingredients are sugar, it says right on the package nutrition label (in the US at least) how much sugar is in the food. How can it be hidden if it's right there on the label?
And there's no food item I could think of where you'd be surprised there is sugar in it and there's a substantial amount.
Probably not surprised that there is, but usually surprised about the amount. That's one of the factors that make people fat. They underestimate. Kinda like, regular whole apple is under-tasty. Caramel, choco covered apple is the standard.
Really? Where are carnival-type candied apples standard over regular ol' apples?
At Mrs. Prindables.
I think @endlessfall16 is extrapolating the existence of candied fruit to somehow mean that's the typical way they're eaten. Perhaps specific to the US?
If so, I've never experienced that. The only time I've seen that kind of treat widespread is on a holiday when it seems like everyone is gifted (or gifting) treats - candied fruit included.
I'm in the US and the last time I saw someone eating candied fruit was around Christmas. One of my co-workers brought dried apricots dipped in chocolate, but that was definitely a special holiday thing. I can't remember the last time I saw it before that. Day-in-day-out, the people I see eating fruit are just eating regular old undipped and uncandied fruit.
Once a week, I make dessert and I try to make it something that I can enjoy during the week if there are any leftovers. Meaning, shooting for about 200 calories or less per serving. So, more than a few of my recipes are... not candied fruit, but boozy fruit. And sometimes, a bit of both. Like if you take 4 seedless oranges and peel and section them, then pour a blend of 1/4 cup (60 mls) orange liquer or brandy and 1/2 cup (120 mls) orange marmalade over them and refrigerate? 8 servings at about 100 calories each.
(This week, I just made apple sauce in the crock-pot, though.)4
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