Is diet coke good for you?
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This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?4 -
This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.1 -
This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...3 -
I dont think its a mega issue aslong as your not drinking tonnes and tonnes of it. I have 1 can of diet juice of sorts a day0
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Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.2 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Actually it does. Ask your dentist2 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.1 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Actually it does. Ask your dentist
Brushing and flossing can rid your mouth of bacteria that creates acid, but we are talking about acid from food and drink sources that can also erode your teeth. With these they recommend cutting back on the substance, using a straw, rinsing your mouth with water after consuming something highly acidic, and waiting to brush your teeth. This applies to wine, lemon, oranges, limes, soda, some juice, etc.1 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.4 -
This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
Do you have any peer reviewed literature stating that diet soda is bad for bone density???2 -
This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
Do you have any peer reviewed literature stating that diet soda is bad for bone density???
There were a few correlative studies that would suggest it does so in women. I believe it the juxtaposition was that it inhibited calcium absorption. But I don't think there were a ton of confirming studies.1 -
This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
Do you have any peer reviewed literature stating that diet soda is bad for bone density???
My mom was recently diagnosed with bone density issues and her doctor recommended that, among other things, she quit drinking diet soda. But experts apparently aren't sure if it is just a correlation or if it actually hurts bone density. Some experts seem to think that it's more about the diet soda displacing beverages with calcium than the soda itself.
Not a peer reviewed study, but an interesting summary that I found: http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/features/soda-osteoporosis#1
Honestly, I haven't seen anything to convince me that I'm at risk by continuing to drink it. I certainly don't think that the diet soda was what contributed to my mom's bone density issues -- she has multiple other risk factors and she never drank that much of it anyway.
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Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.
so brushing and flossing don't help with enamel health?
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Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.
And in 5 years they'll change their advice again...
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I second the bone density problem. My mum was diagnosed with osteoporosis, and one of the first things her specialist asked her was if she drank soda, which she did most days. He made her promise to stop drinking it forthwith or else she would just be hastening her condition and making it worse than it should be!1
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Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.
so brushing and flossing don't help with enamel health?
You're missing the argument here (or trying to make an argument where there shouldn't be one?). They said brushing and flossing *normally* helps by ridding your teeth of bacteria which creates acid, and from which you should infer that getting rid of that bacteria does indeed help enamel health.
The advice behind not brushing after particularly acidic food/beverage, is that that acid is already on your teeth, and brushing at that point would just be rubbing it into your enamel, doing more harm than good. So, you're supposed to rinse with water or wait until your saliva has a chance to neutralize it to a degree before brushing it.3 -
^^^^ Yep^^^^ I always wait at least 30 minutes before brushing my teeth after a meal or after drinking tea/coffee. Doing so straight after eating/drinking causes more damage than benefit.1
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Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.
so brushing and flossing don't help with enamel health?
You're missing the argument here (or trying to make an argument where there shouldn't be one?). They said brushing and flossing *normally* helps by ridding your teeth of bacteria which creates acid, and from which you should infer that getting rid of that bacteria does indeed help enamel health.
The advice behind not brushing after particularly acidic food/beverage, is that that acid is already on your teeth, and brushing at that point would just be rubbing it into your enamel, doing more harm than good. So, you're supposed to rinse with water or wait until your saliva has a chance to neutralize it to a degree before brushing it.
Where did I say that one should brush immediately after drinking soda? Please go back and read my question.3 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.
so brushing and flossing don't help with enamel health?
You're missing the argument here (or trying to make an argument where there shouldn't be one?). They said brushing and flossing *normally* helps by ridding your teeth of bacteria which creates acid, and from which you should infer that getting rid of that bacteria does indeed help enamel health.
The advice behind not brushing after particularly acidic food/beverage, is that that acid is already on your teeth, and brushing at that point would just be rubbing it into your enamel, doing more harm than good. So, you're supposed to rinse with water or wait until your saliva has a chance to neutralize it to a degree before brushing it.
Where did I say that one should brush immediately after drinking soda? Please go back and read my question.
You literally responded to this:
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.
With this:
so brushing and flossing don't help with enamel health?
I assumed a general tone of sassiness based on your previous responses and challenges within this thread, but my apologies if I got that part wrong.
I didn't insinuate that you said that one should brush/floss after drinking soda. I pointed out that your rebuttal was misplaced, as the comment you were replying to WAS highlighting why one shouldn't brush/floss after drinking soda, and your challenge was about something else entirely.
ETA: To clarify and directly answer your original question. Yes, brushing/flossing DOES help enamel health, as long as you don't do it immediately after eating/drinking very acidic foods.3 -
Also for clarification - whilst the sodas and bone density issue is a known risk - as someone said, it is believed to somehow interfere with calcium absorption - but this is not an issue with diet sodas in particular or with artificial sweeteners at all.
The issue is with all sodas, diet and regular.1 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.
And in 5 years they'll change their advice again...
Well, they might. They might not.
But for the time being, makes sense to follow current scientific medical advice ( actual scientific medical advice, not fake advice from silly woo sources.)
The caution about sodas and osteoporosis is current medical scientific advice.
Having said that, I do drink diet soda - but not in excess, perhaps equivalent of about 3 cans per week.
And if I had issues with osteoporosis, I would probably cut down further
Context and dosage are important and whether one is in a risk group to whom the advice applies.2 -
paperpudding wrote: »Also for clarification - whilst the sodas and bone density issue is a known risk - as someone said, it is believed to somehow interfere with calcium absorption - but this is not an issue with diet sodas in particular or with artificial sweeteners at all.
The issue is with all sodas, diet and regular.
And it was only with women. I wasn't identified with males.
But I would have to look for it, because I am not sure if the subject (although, it think it was a questionnaire) identified if they were exercising or specifically resistance training. And I think it was also link that those who were drinking soda, tend to have worse diets. So there were a lot of influencing factors.
So in an essence, those who are into fitness and health, tend to drink less soda, eat "cleaner" and exercise which is a forcing function for your skeletal system which prevents bone density issues.1 -
paperpudding wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
And he didn't say negate it or reverse it, he said prevent it. Huge difference. A dentist would agree that brushing and flossing after soda consumption will help prevent enamel loss.
No a dentist would not. It's like brushing your teeth with acid if you do it after. They recommend the opposite, which is waiting to brush your teeth. That is why I commented. Brushing and flossing helps most with acid by ridding it of bacteria on your teeth that creates acid. We are talking about acid from outside sources and they recommend rinsing with water, consuming less of that, using a straw, etc. Due to the fact that he seemed misinformed I decided to comment. I, also, then gave him another reason, which was bone density issues. I'm not sure why this bothered you so much.
And in 5 years they'll change their advice again...
Well, they might. They might not.
But for the time being, makes sense to follow current scientific medical advice ( actual scientific medical advice, not fake advice from silly woo sources.)
The caution about sodas and osteoporosis is current medical scientific advice.
Having said that, I do drink diet soda - but not in excess, perhaps equivalent of about 3 cans per week.
And if I had issues with osteoporosis, I would probably cut down further
Context and dosage are important and whether one is in a risk group to whom the advice applies.
In my 41 years, the advice regarding brushing/not brushing with soda has changed at least twice.
Butter, 4 or 5 times
Eggs, 4 or 5 times
Etc.0 -
Yes, sure there are other factors - and women tend to suffer from osteoporosis quite a bit more than men anyway.
Details of recomendations may change - but generally the bulk of medical advice doesn't change drastically.
So if one has or is at high risk of osteoporisis would be best to follow current medical advice and at least limit soda intake ( and exercise, take vit D/ calcium supplements etc)1 -
The question said that brushing and flossing would negate any harm to the teeth. If that's wrong, it seems fair to address it.Wynterbourne wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Didn't change the fact that they asked for reasons other than teeth and you continued to talk about teeth.
...
It would be like asking "Bearing in mind that deep-fried foods are low in calories, are they good for you?"
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I'm particularly alert to dental issues because they're a problem for me. My dentist doesn't agree that brushing and flossing will prevent harm from acidic drinks.stanmann571 wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »This is an insane discussion. It's bad for your teeth! Ask your dentist! Taking care of your teeth is incredibly important and an often overlooked health issue. You're better off skipping the juices, and soda (diet or otherwise) and sticking to water and milk.
That being said, Diet Coke alone shouldnt make you gain weight if the rest of your diet is on point. You can take steps to reduce the negative impact of highly acidic drinks on your teeth. For example, moderate your intake, drink with a straw and rinse your mouth when your done.
https://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day
Consider how you are fueling your body though; are you drinking Diet Coke because you're fatigued all the time and need the caffeine? You can be skinny with nutritional deficiencies and health problems (and bad teeth)!
Live your own life, treat yourself once in a while. But don't pretend that Diet Coke is a "healthy" drink because it has no calories.
absent the teeth issue, which can be solved via regular brushing and flossing. What exactly is not healthy about diet coke that is 99% water?
Well the acid in the soda eats away at enamel and once that is gone there is no getting it back. No amount of brushing and flossing will help that tooth. They also know that soda is bad for bone density but they have yet to figure out what about it causes bone loss. Most doctors say stick to 1 to 2 a day and you should be ok or switch to non-cola sodas because those who drank non-cola didn't have a bone density change. As for teeth, drinking through a straw can help with that issue and not brushing your teeth immediately after consuming a high acid drink like soda and orange juice.
They asked other than the teeth issue, what is not healthy about diet soda, and 99% of your response was about the teeth issue...
50% my response was also about bone issues actually. And the reason I explained teeth issues was that he acted like flossing and brushing would negate the issues it causes to teeth, and it doesn't.
Actually it does. Ask your dentist
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In vitro studies (a.k.a., test-tube studies of cells living outside the body) have shown that cells release more insulin when exposed to some artificial sweeteners. Increased insulin signals a cell to store more energy as fat (rather than use it as fuel), so this might partially explain the correlation between weight gain and artificial sweeteners. Much more research is necessary but for now I'm cutting way down on my diet soda consumption.1
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robinhelmstreit wrote: »In vitro studies (a.k.a., test-tube studies of cells living outside the body) have shown that cells release more insulin when exposed to some artificial sweeteners. Increased insulin signals a cell to store more energy as fat (rather than use it as fuel), so this might partially explain the correlation between weight gain and artificial sweeteners. Much more research is necessary but for now I'm cutting way down on my diet soda consumption.
There is no net fat storage in the body while in a caloric deficit.
Anecdotally, I drink diet soda virtually every day and have lost nearly 70 pounds and lowered my body fat percentage over 15%.8 -
robinhelmstreit wrote: »In vitro studies (a.k.a., test-tube studies of cells living outside the body) have shown that cells release more insulin when exposed to some artificial sweeteners. Increased insulin signals a cell to store more energy as fat (rather than use it as fuel), so this might partially explain the correlation between weight gain and artificial sweeteners. Much more research is necessary but for now I'm cutting way down on my diet soda consumption.
Which artificial sweeteners?
Were the "artificial sweeteners" separated from their dextrose fill?2
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