What terms/phrases wind you up about losing weight?
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I'm sure it's been said before, but I've been triggered and need a safe space.
"Toxins"
"Dairy is only for baby cows"
"Sugar is addicting"
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The baby cow thing is one of the top ones for me, for sure. Or "we weren't MEANT to drink milk."7
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lemurcat12 wrote: »The baby cow thing is one of the top ones for me, for sure. Or "we weren't MEANT to drink milk."
Always sets my teeth on edge. I'm pretty sure I'm not "meant" to be doing a lot of things that I'm doing right now, but it's hardly a compelling argument.7 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »The baby cow thing is one of the top ones for me, for sure. Or "we weren't MEANT to drink milk."
They all read Skinny *kitten*.
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janejellyroll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »The baby cow thing is one of the top ones for me, for sure. Or "we weren't MEANT to drink milk."
Always sets my teeth on edge. I'm pretty sure I'm not "meant" to be doing a lot of things that I'm doing right now, but it's hardly a compelling argument.
Definitely unpopular in certain circles, but along these lines, I wish all naturalistic fallacies would die a fiery death.
Something is not necessarily bad because humans were/are involved in some way. Something is not necessarily good because it arose without human influence.8 -
Ha yes, aesthetics and athletic physiques both vary considerably. Swimmers, runners, jumpers, football players, soccer players, hockey players, hip hop dancers, ballet dancers.. they all have very different typical physiques influenced greatly by the specific demands of their sport. I think when people discuss their personal perferred aesthetics, they should be very careful about the way they phrase things.
This actually winds me up a bit, the idea that to be athletic every woman needs to be at 20% body fat. It's not true. It is typical of many sports, but by far not all. If you look at your average shot-putter, you will see a good deal more body fat. Competive rowers are typically lean, but not all of them (I have a cousin who is an NCAA college athletic rower and quite heavy).
In grad school I was a member of a bellydance group. At 200 lbs, 5'9", I was far from "athletic looking" but my dancing could bring a full theatre of people to their feet, particularly when I was able to perform the deep backwards bends. Now, I know a lot of people here will go "200 lb woman EEWWWWWW" but honestly, that is generally not the reaction people have when they see a belly dancer in action. I've included pictures from a full hour show that I did with two of the women I danced with. You go try to bellydance for an hour and tell me it doesn't require a great deal of athleticism and physical fitness. I dare you.
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janejellyroll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »The baby cow thing is one of the top ones for me, for sure. Or "we weren't MEANT to drink milk."
Always sets my teeth on edge. I'm pretty sure I'm not "meant" to be doing a lot of things that I'm doing right now, but it's hardly a compelling argument.
Definitely unpopular in certain circles, but along these lines, I wish all naturalistic fallacies would die a fiery death.
Something is not necessarily bad because humans were/are involved in some way. Something is not necessarily good because it arose without human influence.
Yeah, you have to evaluate things on their actual impact, not whether or not they are "natural" or not.4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »The baby cow thing is one of the top ones for me, for sure. Or "we weren't MEANT to drink milk."
Always sets my teeth on edge. I'm pretty sure I'm not "meant" to be doing a lot of things that I'm doing right now, but it's hardly a compelling argument.
Definitely unpopular in certain circles, but along these lines, I wish all naturalistic fallacies would die a fiery death.
Something is not necessarily bad because humans were/are involved in some way. Something is not necessarily good because it arose without human influence.
Yep, deadly nightshade is natural.4 -
Now, I know a lot of people here will go "200 lb woman EEWWWWWW"
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I've included pictures from a full hour show that I did with two of the women I danced with. You go try to bellydance for an hour and tell me it doesn't require a great deal of athleticism and physical fitness. I dare you.
You're my hero. I am definitely not going "ewww"!5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »The baby cow thing is one of the top ones for me, for sure. Or "we weren't MEANT to drink milk."
They all read Skinny *kitten*.
Ah yes, 'Soda is liquid Satan'. Such an objective read. NOT! I read the first couple of paragraphs of that book garbage and my blood pressure went through the roof.
Thankfully I didn't make it to Chapter 4, "The Dead, Rotting Decomposing Flesh Diet" because I probably would have killed someone.4 -
just about everything on pinterest6
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »It's not a term or phrase but it annoys me when people don't "believe" in calorie counting or CICO or they think weight loss is specific to certain foods. I had a coworker at my last job who had gained a bunch of weight over the years and was convinced it was solely because of the 2 pieces of bacon she was eating for breakfast every morning. I'm like, 2 pieces of bacon only has like 40 calories. Also when people think you need to eat breakfast to lose weight, or eat many small meals a day, or whatever nonsense.
what kind of bacon are you eating where two pieces are 40 calories????????
Aldi center cut bacon... 2 slices 47 calories. Lol. What kind of bacon are you eating?1 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I agree with the OP...."journey".
You're not going anywhere....stop making it more grandiose than it is.
The only thing that bothers me is I read that I want loose weight, but then I think maybe they really do want to loose it. I am sure I have used the phrase weight loss journey a time or two. For me, losing 200 lbs and completely changing my life has been and continues to be a journey. In that regard, it is kinda grandiose. To each their own.3 -
It's less the words, and more the attitude. The ones who know it all and are never wrong, even when presented with peer reviewed medical journals that prove them wrong. You can be very knowledgeable, but still not know everything. You should always be open to learning new things, at the very least listening to a person's experience. Different things work for different people.9
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).0 -
WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
Technically, it still burns more calories of fat; it's just that a lower percentage of the calories burned come from fat. (Lower percentage of a bigger total can still be a bigger number.) So, it sucks that the media misrepresents it.4 -
schuster_US wrote: »"Humans weren't made to eat that stuff". Why stop with caveman food? Humans evolved from bacteria; let's just use photosynthesis and really get back to our "natural state"!
Strong first post.
And I mean that sincerely, no snark.8 -
SusanMFindlay wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
Technically, it still burns more calories of fat; it's just that a lower percentage of the calories burned come from fat. (Lower percentage of a bigger total can still be a bigger number.) So, it sucks that the media misrepresents it.
I blame Fitbit for keeping that alive. Their explanation of exercise zones completely reinforces the whole "don't do intense cardio unless you're training for endurance thing.1 -
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- this one is slightly irrational on my part, but I find it incredibly frustrating: it irritates me that as a 5'5, 139 lbs woman aged 41, I need to consistently walk about 11,000 steps a day to bring my calorie expenditure just to 2,000 or so calories. I am intensely jealous of taller, heavier and more muscular people who can eat more and not gain weight. Because I love eating. I also want to scream when older shorter women mention their total daily calorie expenditure is 1,500, just because of the sheer injustice of it
As a 5'3" woman, I agree with this on a spiritual level.
5'5" as well but at 130lbs I need to walk closer to 15,000 a day
and 4 days a week are spent at a desk which leaves me 5 hours at the end of the day to cram in eating and walking and anything else I might need to do around the house, as well as work I do from home (also at a desk). It's frustrating some days.
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WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
They are spewing nonsense because they are misunderstanding. People are way too focused on whether they are specifically burning fat at any one moment and ignoring that if you have a deficit you need to make it up by burning fat at some point and that running hard also adds to burn and deficit. The idea that if you don't burn fat while doing the activity (and as noted above that's not actually true) it cannot be helpful for weight loss purposes is nonsense (and for the purposes of this thread, annoying!). ;-)0 -
if humans weren't meant to drink milk, why do new mothers lactate??6
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WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »SusanMFindlay wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
Technically, it still burns more calories of fat; it's just that a lower percentage of the calories burned come from fat. (Lower percentage of a bigger total can still be a bigger number.) So, it sucks that the media misrepresents it.
I blame Fitbit for keeping that alive. Their explanation of exercise zones completely reinforces the whole "don't do intense cardio unless you're training for endurance thing.
I agree with this. In my head I translate "fat burning zone" to "steady state zone" when I'm cycling.0 -
I'm kinda sick of hearing "help me with my macros." And I follow IIFYM. Gah! Go educate yourself people, or just stick to your freaking caloric deficit.
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Not a word/phrase, but I get very annoyed when someone asks for help or asks a question and then ignores every piece of sound advice or answer in favor of the 1 or 2 posts in a thread of 50 that just back up their pre-conceived ideas.22
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Not a word/phrase, but I get very annoyed when someone asks for help or asks a question and then ignores every piece of sound advice or answer in favor of the 1 or 2 posts in a thread of 50 that just back up their pre-conceived ideas.
I think much of this is ego. Many people simply cannot take responsibility for their actions and this is one of greatest reasons for repeated failures. CICO and calorie counting require a level of personal responsibility. Western society does not uphold this as a value anymore.
...also why you tend to get an emotional reaction from these people. You don't get emotional over false statements. The truth on the other hand...6 -
WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »SusanMFindlay wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Yeah, fat burning zone is a good one. I seriously had someone tell me that it was useless to run or do other cardio if your heart rate was too high, as you wouldn't burn fat.
It's similar to people thinking they must exercise fasted or it's not doing any good, which is another weird claim I've run into.
To be fair, at least they're only misunderstanding rather than spewing nonsense. Higher intensity cardio DOES burn less calories from fat specifically, but it still burns fat (and creates the afterburn continuing after exercise is completed, which the "fat burn zone" never will).
Technically, it still burns more calories of fat; it's just that a lower percentage of the calories burned come from fat. (Lower percentage of a bigger total can still be a bigger number.) So, it sucks that the media misrepresents it.
I blame Fitbit for keeping that alive. Their explanation of exercise zones completely reinforces the whole "don't do intense cardio unless you're training for endurance thing.
I agree with this. In my head I translate "fat burning zone" to "steady state zone" when I'm cycling.
That works! I call it the "not sitting on my butt" zone. I try to be in it several hours a day so that I'm getting a good amount of NEAT. So, I like that Fitbit shows me my time in each zone for the day, but not for the reason they think.
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This isn't a phrase so much but there are a lot of posts here where people say they have a hard time eating X calories. And inevitably someone says "if you find it so hard to eat more, how'd you end up with a weight problem". And I get what their point is - sounds silly that someone trying to lose weight suddenly my can't eat enough. But honestly it's so oversimplifying complex topics that relate to weight gain like the things that trigger people or the psychological aspects to weight loss. When people eat "healthier" and avoid their trigger foods , they may be surprised to find they eat WAY less calories then binging on McDonald's and chips and chocolate. And they may not be at a point mentally to be able to handle those foods in responsible portions.10
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