Barbell Strength Class or HIIT

Kintsugi_Haikyo
Kintsugi_Haikyo Posts: 361 Member
edited November 19 in Fitness and Exercise
I am looking at taking a class at my local lifetime fitness. I think that the barbell strength or HIIT class seems like a really good overall body workout.

But, what is the difference? They seem kind of similar except one uses barbells, and the other one... well, I'm not sure what type of weights they use if any at all.

Thanks!
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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    What are your goals?
  • trorion
    trorion Posts: 13 Member
    Both are almost certainly HIIT programs designed to create a sustained boost in your metabolism. I would honestly say go to whichever one is more fun for you. I'm assuming you can switch at any time.
  • PPumpItUp
    PPumpItUp Posts: 208 Member
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It can be done swimming, sprinting, rowing, etc. but typically with not weights. Both are beneficial. Have you done any strength training before?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    HIIT is typically cardio...lifting is lifting.
  • PokernuttAR
    PokernuttAR Posts: 74 Member
    It depends on your goals and what you will enjoy the most. Tryout both for a couple weeks and see which one you enjoy the most. If this is a real HIIT class, these are taxing and can be very difficult. Depending on your fitness level, you might not want to try this one first. True HIIT is usually recommended to be done 1-2 times per week due to the level of difficulty (and depending on your goals/fitness level). Good luck.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    HIIT is typically cardio...lifting is lifting.

    But is it an actual lifting class or a cardio class with a bar? I've seen those.
  • Try them both and pick the one you like more.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    HIIT is typically cardio...lifting is lifting.

    But is it an actual lifting class or a cardio class with a bar? I've seen those.

    Ah, could be...one of the gyms I used to belong to offered an introductory to barbell lifting class and it was basically to get form down on squats, bench, OHP, dead lift, etc...so that's what immediately popped into my mind.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Depends on your goals and what you enjoy. Why not try both? Or alternate.

    They are completely different though, that's if it's actually HIIT at all.
    Very high probability that the HIIT class isn't - probably just circuit training wearing a fashion label.
  • Kintsugi_Haikyo
    Kintsugi_Haikyo Posts: 361 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    HIIT is typically cardio...lifting is lifting.

    But is it an actual lifting class or a cardio class with a bar? I've seen those.

    I think it is more of a cardio class with a barbell and some weights on the end.
  • Kintsugi_Haikyo
    Kintsugi_Haikyo Posts: 361 Member
    My main goal right now is to lose some belly fat. My current routine takes a lot of time out of my day. I went in for a regular check up with my doctor, and she said that I should try a class because it would be less boring (that spending time on the stair-master) and I would probably get a better workout.
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    Without knowing what the barbell class is we cannot give a recommendation. Well at least about the classes. I do recommend that whatever you do, strength training of some sort should be a part of it.
  • DancingMoosie
    DancingMoosie Posts: 8,619 Member
    What are you doing now that takes so long? Personally, I would try both classes and see which appealed to me more and seemed more effective. You might find you like both and can alternate.
  • WendyLeigh1119
    WendyLeigh1119 Posts: 495 Member
    edited June 2017
    If it's Les Mills BodyPump, it's awesome and fun, so try it. If not, it's likely just an unbranded version of Pump. Yes. It's faster and the barbell is lighter. But you can pile on as much weight as you want and it still covers all of the same moves as well as covering legs, back, chest, biceps, triceps, and shoulders. Typically with a lot of push ups and crunches thrown in as a cool down. It's a an hour full of hitting target areas and plenty of dudes take it, too. The only people who don't get anything out of it are people who don't try increasing weight.

    If it's a Pump type class...you'll be sore. And it makes it easier to supplement in the weight room without stressing too much because you know you already got a full body strength session.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    PPumpItUp wrote: »
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It can be done swimming, sprinting, rowing, etc. but typically with not weights. Both are beneficial. Have you done any strength training before?

    Would you consider Metabolic Weight Training to be HIIT?
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    PPumpItUp wrote: »
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It can be done swimming, sprinting, rowing, etc. but typically with not weights. Both are beneficial. Have you done any strength training before?

    Would you consider Metabolic Weight Training to be HIIT?

    Depends on the format.
  • WendyLeigh1119
    WendyLeigh1119 Posts: 495 Member
    If it's Les Mills BodyPump, it's awesome and fun, so try it. If not, it's likely just an unbranded version of Pump. Yes. It's faster and the barbell is lighter. But you can pile on as much weight as you want and it still covers all of the same moves as well as covering legs, back, chest, biceps, triceps, and shoulders. Typically with a lot of push ups and crunches thrown in as a cool down. It's a an hour full of hitting target areas and plenty of dudes take it, too. The only people who don't get anything out of it are people who don't try increasing weight.

    If it's a Pump type class...you'll be sore. And it makes it easier to supplement in the weight room without stressing too much because you know you already got a full body strength session.

    I went last night and you are absolutely right. It was fun compared to spending 30 or 45 min on the stair-master. I was surprised that they could hit every area of the body in an hour, but they did. Not much rest between sets either. I will probably try the HIIT program too, but I really enjoyed and got a good workout from the one I went to last night.

    Great! I love it and take it 4 days per week. I also take Body Combat for Cardio to avoid toiling away on ellipticals. The pump class still makes me sore every time and I've been taking it for months. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    rybo wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    PPumpItUp wrote: »
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It can be done swimming, sprinting, rowing, etc. but typically with not weights. Both are beneficial. Have you done any strength training before?

    Would you consider Metabolic Weight Training to be HIIT?

    Depends on the format.

    Makes sense. I've done 5 exercises, 6 reps each. All in a sequence. 1.5 minutes between sets and 5 sets. It was pretty intense. Trying to remember what they all were. Squats into rows, into deads, into hanging cleans, into overhead press. About 20lbs on the 45 lb bar. Great workout! Not going to build muscle mass but it works the muscle groups kinda similar to body weight workouts. Could be an option for the OP.
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    PPumpItUp wrote: »
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It can be done swimming, sprinting, rowing, etc. but typically with not weights. Both are beneficial. Have you done any strength training before?

    Would you consider Metabolic Weight Training to be HIIT?

    Depends on the format.

    Makes sense. I've done 5 exercises, 6 reps each. All in a sequence. 1.5 minutes between sets and 5 sets. It was pretty intense. Trying to remember what they all were. Squats into rows, into deads, into hanging cleans, into overhead press. About 20lbs on the 45 lb bar. Great workout! Not going to build muscle mass but it works the muscle groups kinda similar to body weight workouts. Could be an option for the OP.

    Barbell complexes like you mentioned are a tried and true way to build strength, conditioning and increase work capacity. Certainly don't want to do them for every workout, but they are a good tool .
  • PokernuttAR
    PokernuttAR Posts: 74 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    PPumpItUp wrote: »
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It can be done swimming, sprinting, rowing, etc. but typically with not weights. Both are beneficial. Have you done any strength training before?

    Would you consider Metabolic Weight Training to be HIIT?

    Depends on the format.

    Makes sense. I've done 5 exercises, 6 reps each. All in a sequence. 1.5 minutes between sets and 5 sets. It was pretty intense. Trying to remember what they all were. Squats into rows, into deads, into hanging cleans, into overhead press. About 20lbs on the 45 lb bar. Great workout! Not going to build muscle mass but it works the muscle groups kinda similar to body weight workouts. Could be an option for the OP.

    This is definitely not HIIT. It sounds more like circuit training. These are great workouts too, but you don't get the same after benefits as HIIT.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    PPumpItUp wrote: »
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It can be done swimming, sprinting, rowing, etc. but typically with not weights. Both are beneficial. Have you done any strength training before?

    Would you consider Metabolic Weight Training to be HIIT?

    Depends on the format.

    Makes sense. I've done 5 exercises, 6 reps each. All in a sequence. 1.5 minutes between sets and 5 sets. It was pretty intense. Trying to remember what they all were. Squats into rows, into deads, into hanging cleans, into overhead press. About 20lbs on the 45 lb bar. Great workout! Not going to build muscle mass but it works the muscle groups kinda similar to body weight workouts. Could be an option for the OP.

    This is definitely not HIIT. It sounds more like circuit training. These are great workouts too, but you don't get the same after benefits as HIIT.

    Help me understand the difference because, honestly, I'm not at all clear what defines whether a workout is HIIT or not.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    rybo wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    PPumpItUp wrote: »
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It can be done swimming, sprinting, rowing, etc. but typically with not weights. Both are beneficial. Have you done any strength training before?

    Would you consider Metabolic Weight Training to be HIIT?

    Depends on the format.

    Makes sense. I've done 5 exercises, 6 reps each. All in a sequence. 1.5 minutes between sets and 5 sets. It was pretty intense. Trying to remember what they all were. Squats into rows, into deads, into hanging cleans, into overhead press. About 20lbs on the 45 lb bar. Great workout! Not going to build muscle mass but it works the muscle groups kinda similar to body weight workouts. Could be an option for the OP.

    Barbell complexes like you mentioned are a tried and true way to build strength, conditioning and increase work capacity. Certainly don't want to do them for every workout, but they are a good tool .

    Agree, not every workout. I was doing this routine 1 day per week for a little variety. I tend to do this in the winter when my workouts are indoors. I do sprints and burpees when I can get outside.
  • kwtilbury
    kwtilbury Posts: 1,234 Member
    "Barbell strength" is somewhat ambiguous, but sounds nothing like HIIT.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    kwtilbury wrote: »
    "Barbell strength" is somewhat ambiguous, but sounds nothing like HIIT.

    People keep saying what HIIT isn't but nobody says why and what it is. Have you ever done Metabolic Weight Training?
  • kwtilbury
    kwtilbury Posts: 1,234 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    kwtilbury wrote: »
    "Barbell strength" is somewhat ambiguous, but sounds nothing like HIIT.

    People keep saying what HIIT isn't but nobody says why and what it is. Have you ever done Metabolic Weight Training?

    I'm not trying to define what HIIT is or isn't, just simply saying that HIIT and "barbell strength" do not sound like comparable activities.
  • Kintsugi_Haikyo
    Kintsugi_Haikyo Posts: 361 Member
    mmapags wrote: »
    kwtilbury wrote: »
    "Barbell strength" is somewhat ambiguous, but sounds nothing like HIIT.

    People keep saying what HIIT isn't but nobody says why and what it is. Have you ever done Metabolic Weight Training?

    What exactly is Metabolic Weight Training? I've just been so old-school my whole life: run, push-ups, sit-ups, lift weights. But, man, all that gets so old after a while. That's when I started the stair-master to liven things up. It was a good addition to my workout but so very boring.
  • Kintsugi_Haikyo
    Kintsugi_Haikyo Posts: 361 Member
    It depends on your goals and what you will enjoy the most. Tryout both for a couple weeks and see which one you enjoy the most. If this is a real HIIT class, these are taxing and can be very difficult. Depending on your fitness level, you might not want to try this one first. True HIIT is usually recommended to be done 1-2 times per week due to the level of difficulty (and depending on your goals/fitness level). Good luck.

    I am going to try out the HIIT class, but later this week. I'm still sore from Monday's Barbell Strength class. Of all places, I'm sore in my thighs. I wasn't really prepared for back and front squats I guess.
  • cqbkaju
    cqbkaju Posts: 1,011 Member
    edited June 2017
    HIIT: High Intensity Interval Training

    Short burst of high activity followed by a slightly longer period of lower activity.
    Rest, rinse and repeat.

    Example? Sprint up the hill, walk back down, catch your breath and do it again.
    It doesn't need a special class or equipment.

    HIIT is a more efficient form of "cardio" in most cases.

    If you want to lose weight quickly then HIIT will help you do it because of the large calorie output.
    But if you want to keep the weight off then you probably need strength training to raise (or at least maintain) your BMR.

    Alternate both.
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