Who read "The Obesity Code" by Jason Fung
mariaros
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I am reading this book and am starting to understand so many things that we has been doing wrong our entire life....
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Yes we, everyone need this information, specifically if want to loose weight and not gain it back.20
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Fung's insulin hypothesis has already been debunked.10
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It is.8
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Fung's information is not scientifically factual, and asserting that it is is like plugging your ears and saying "la-la-la, I can't hear you".
He just strings a lot of science-y sounding words together to fool people into thinking he knows what he's talking about.15 -
@mariaros The ONLY thing you have to do to lose weight is insure that the amount of calories you are ingesting each day is less than the amount of calories your body uses in a day. EVERYTHING else is noise. Good luck!7
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Cliffs notes of his claims?3 -
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Don't base your opinion on one person's book. Keep reading and learning.8
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TavistockToad wrote: »
Cliffs notes of his claims?
Fung basically is against steady caloric restriction.
He promotes a form of intermittent fasting wherein people totally fast for longer periods of time (some people go DAYS drinking just water, black coffee and tea) and makes all sorts of woo claims about you will never have metabolic slow down if you do this. The claims almost seem to be saying that people can still keep eating at a high caloric level, if you look at them on the face of it.
You have to buy his books or sit through one of his youtube videos to see what he really says.
Regular eating should happen on the other days (supposedly not counting any calories with ketogenic macros.
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Not for me.
I've lost 100+lbs by counting calories which is against what Fung writes about in his (expensive) book. No keto.
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Dr. Fung argues that obesity is not about calories or fat grams or exercise, but about hormones. I don't agree.
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I've been maintaining my 50 pound loss for 15 years. I'd like to know when I'm going to wake up and it's back, so I can be sure to have enough loose clothes around.13
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Fung believes CICO is a "theory". That automatically makes him a "woo" seller of whatever program he wants people to believe it.
OP, people get obese eating more than they need to. Whether it's protein, carbs, or fat. The more overweight someone gets, the higher risk they have for diabetes, metabolic dysfunction, hormonal imbalance, etc.
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This was asked back in March in MFP. It got pretty ugly.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10527944/jason-fungs-book-the-obesity-code-thoughts
Any diet against CICO won't go over well here.3 -
TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »This was asked back in March in MFP. It got pretty ugly.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10527944/jason-fungs-book-the-obesity-code-thoughts
Any diet against CICO won't go over well here.
... because it represents a denial of reality.14 -
I also gotta kinda laugh because he's Asian and if he attends any family gatherings or parties, I can bet there's a lot of rice, and other starchy foods around. And like most Asians (with the possible exception of those raised in the US), they're likely well within normal weight and body fat range.
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Fung believes CICO is a "theory". That automatically makes him a "woo" seller of whatever program he wants people to believe it.
OP, people get obese eating more than they need to. Whether it's protein, carbs, or fat. The more overweight someone gets, the higher risk they have for diabetes, metabolic dysfunction, hormonal imbalance, etc.
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I agree with what you're trying to say but you need to check the meaning of the word theory in the dictionary.
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Jason Fung's weight loss rules depend heavily on the fact that many people need a structured way of eating to lose weight, someone to tell them when, what and how much to eat. This is the basis of most of the weight-loss fad diets and scammy books. People who follow his advice and lose weight do it basically because a keto diet is satiating for them and their energy input will be less than their energy output. CICO. Like any weight loss effort, the long-term sustainability will depend on the person's ability to continue eating in this way after getting to maintenance.
Which is to say most people will gain the weight back because most people do using any weight-loss method.
In my opinion people trying to adhere to restrictive diets like this one usually not only fail to reach maintenance, they also develop anxieties around foods that might make it easier to lose weight in the future because those are the foods they like and that are satiating for them.1 -
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TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »This was asked back in March in MFP. It got pretty ugly.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10527944/jason-fungs-book-the-obesity-code-thoughts
Any diet against CICO won't go over well here.
Because CICO is the underlying scientific principle that governs *all* diets.
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I cant stand his work, or at least the bs he pushes in his blogs. I have come to the conclusion that i will not listen to MD's when it comes to dietary advice, unless they have been educated and have specialized in the field. Doctors diagnose and treat based on what PhDs discover. I would much more listen to the those trained in the field of nutritional sciences; even if they only have masters degrees.
Ultimately, your dietary approach will be personal to your needs. If you like his approach then give it a shot. But it does come down to CICO, even though fung thinks otherwise.5 -
I also gotta kinda laugh because he's Asian and if he attends any family gatherings or parties, I can bet there's a lot of rice, and other starchy foods around. And like most Asians (with the possible exception of those raised in the US), they're likely well within normal weight and body fat range.
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A bit "cliche" your comment!
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My husband lost 49 lbs following Dr Fung's principles. He is also off all his diabetic and heart medication. Thank you Dr Fung!14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TgoF-ccdGM
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