No Calorie Sodas and Weight
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I lost 20lbs drinking diet dr pepper along with healthy eating and exercise.3
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because chemicals are bad, and diet soda is fake sugar/chemicals???
I was drinking cherry coke zero for 2 years before I figured out the "food poisoning" symptoms were really that and not the food.25 -
Why are chemicals bad?
Everything is made up of chemicals.6 -
YearOfTheDragonLeo wrote: »because chemicals are bad, and diet soda is fake sugar/chemicals???
I was drinking cherry coke zero for 2 years before I figured out the "food poisoning" symptoms were really that and not the food.
The fake sugar isn't even the worst, it also has copious amounts of dihydrogen monoxide, under chemists also known as the universal solvent. Just imagine what that can do to your intestines!26 -
YearOfTheDragonLeo wrote: »because chemicals are bad, and diet soda is fake sugar/chemicals???
I was drinking cherry coke zero for 2 years before I figured out the "food poisoning" symptoms were really that and not the food.
You may have a sensitivity some something in the soda. It sounds like you've figured that out indirectly. But many people have no problems with those "chemicals" (everything is a chemical of one sort or another, I don't believe that those in coke zero are particularly dangerous, barring sensitivities/allergies)4 -
YearOfTheDragonLeo wrote: »because chemicals are bad, and diet soda is fake sugar/chemicals???
I was drinking cherry coke zero for 2 years before I figured out the "food poisoning" symptoms were really that and not the food.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »YearOfTheDragonLeo wrote: »because chemicals are bad, and diet soda is fake sugar/chemicals???
I was drinking cherry coke zero for 2 years before I figured out the "food poisoning" symptoms were really that and not the food.
Even breatharians can't get away from all of the chemicals!8 -
I've searched online and in these forums to see what the popular opinion on this subject is. So many articles claim that no calorie sodas lead to weight gain and/or obesity. But I just don't understand how if you are running a calorie deficit.
What are your opinions?
I drink a fairly large amount of Coke Zero each day so this topic is important to me haha. Do I actually have to drink just water to lose weight?!
Ok I am ready to get blasted here because I know I am going to! For me (just my own personal experience) as long as a stick with coke zero it DOES NOT CAUSE ME TO GAIN. For whatever reason the others, diet coke, diet dr pepper, dt mt dew all make me crave food big time. I have been hugely successful this go around by letting myself have my coke zero. Sometimes I like to even have a Monster Zero Ultra (gasp!! LOL)3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »People think gut bacteria affects what foods you crave, but that assumes -- wrongly, IMO -- that people cannot control what they choose to eat.
Gut bacteria also affects how you digest what you eat, but often that has more to do with what you do eat Don't eat many veg/much fiber, and it's hard to digest it, as you lack the right bacteria. That changes over time.
Suggesting that drinking diet soda just makes you fat unrelated to calories makes no scientific sense, is unsupported, and sounds like an excuse/denial of the reality of excess calories.
I personally have had periods where I drank quite a lot of diet soda and periods (like now) where I rarely drink it, and I've never found that it affects what I crave (what foods I eat do affect what I crave -- I crave what I'm in the habit of drinking).
Some find that drinking lots of sweet things make them unable to appreciate non sweet tastes, but that has always seemed odd to me and was never my experience -- I suspect it has more to do with not developing your palate to consume other things more generally or perhaps huge excess over a long period of time or something. (When I consumed the most diet soda I also generally didn't care for many super sweet foods and strongly disliked sweet wines, sweet dressings, etc., and enjoyed fruits and veg perfectly well.)
This whole idea of having a "sweet taste" and being sensitized to it is just weird to me.
The other day, I bit into a stalk of celery and it was incredibly sweet for celery.
I drink diet soda all the time, criminally over-sweeten my morning tea, and yet I can pick up on the nuances in vegetables and nuts that makes one sample sweet vs. another that's maybe bitter or earthy.6 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »People think gut bacteria affects what foods you crave, but that assumes -- wrongly, IMO -- that people cannot control what they choose to eat.
Gut bacteria also affects how you digest what you eat, but often that has more to do with what you do eat Don't eat many veg/much fiber, and it's hard to digest it, as you lack the right bacteria. That changes over time.
Suggesting that drinking diet soda just makes you fat unrelated to calories makes no scientific sense, is unsupported, and sounds like an excuse/denial of the reality of excess calories.
I personally have had periods where I drank quite a lot of diet soda and periods (like now) where I rarely drink it, and I've never found that it affects what I crave (what foods I eat do affect what I crave -- I crave what I'm in the habit of drinking).
Some find that drinking lots of sweet things make them unable to appreciate non sweet tastes, but that has always seemed odd to me and was never my experience -- I suspect it has more to do with not developing your palate to consume other things more generally or perhaps huge excess over a long period of time or something. (When I consumed the most diet soda I also generally didn't care for many super sweet foods and strongly disliked sweet wines, sweet dressings, etc., and enjoyed fruits and veg perfectly well.)
This whole idea of having a "sweet taste" and being sensitized to it is just weird to me.
The other day, I bit into a stalk of celery and it was incredibly sweet for celery.
I drink diet soda all the time, criminally over-sweeten my morning tea, and yet I can pick up on the nuances in vegetables and nuts that makes one sample sweet vs. another that's maybe bitter or earthy.
Yeah, whenever people say they couldn't appreciate fruit until they quit soda or diet diet or added sugar, I always find it puzzling. I was chopping some onion and ate a slice this morning and noticed again how sweet onion is even though I actually had a diet coke yesterday, oh no! (Onion having plenty of sugar is, of course, why it carmelizes easily).
I also had some cherries yesterday which were, of course, extremely sweet (and delicious).8 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »People think gut bacteria affects what foods you crave, but that assumes -- wrongly, IMO -- that people cannot control what they choose to eat.
Gut bacteria also affects how you digest what you eat, but often that has more to do with what you do eat Don't eat many veg/much fiber, and it's hard to digest it, as you lack the right bacteria. That changes over time.
Suggesting that drinking diet soda just makes you fat unrelated to calories makes no scientific sense, is unsupported, and sounds like an excuse/denial of the reality of excess calories.
I personally have had periods where I drank quite a lot of diet soda and periods (like now) where I rarely drink it, and I've never found that it affects what I crave (what foods I eat do affect what I crave -- I crave what I'm in the habit of drinking).
Some find that drinking lots of sweet things make them unable to appreciate non sweet tastes, but that has always seemed odd to me and was never my experience -- I suspect it has more to do with not developing your palate to consume other things more generally or perhaps huge excess over a long period of time or something. (When I consumed the most diet soda I also generally didn't care for many super sweet foods and strongly disliked sweet wines, sweet dressings, etc., and enjoyed fruits and veg perfectly well.)
This whole idea of having a "sweet taste" and being sensitized to it is just weird to me.
The other day, I bit into a stalk of celery and it was incredibly sweet for celery.
I drink diet soda all the time, criminally over-sweeten my morning tea, and yet I can pick up on the nuances in vegetables and nuts that makes one sample sweet vs. another that's maybe bitter or earthy.
Yeah, whenever people say they couldn't appreciate fruit until they quit soda or diet diet or added sugar, I always find it puzzling. I was chopping some onion and ate a slice this morning and noticed again how sweet onion is even though I actually had a diet coke yesterday, oh no! (Onion having plenty of sugar is, of course, why it carmelizes easily).
I also had some cherries yesterday which were, of course, extremely sweet (and delicious).
I don't get it either. And unlike you, I really like very sweet things. I'm not currently eating them since I'm trying to optimize satiety while on a deficit, but I'd be a classic case for supposed de-sensitized taste buds.
Nope. Mine work just fine. I'm going to go pour some diet cranberry ginger ale since I'm all out of Diet Dr. Pepper.7 -
I will have a Coke Zero or Diet Dr. Pepper once in w blue moon these days but I prefer either coffee and tea without sweetener. The one thing I have noticed is by not drinking super sweet drinks I don't crave sweets as much as I used too when I was drinking diet soda daily. Plus aspartame gives me headaches like no other. I don't think it makes you gain weight but I do think they make you crave other bad foods and rationalize eating them because you are having a zero calorie drink. I drink a lot of water plus a glass of hibiscus tea just for something different. Diet soda might be good for some people but my overall health has been better since I stopped drinking them so frequently.0
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I will have a Coke Zero or Diet Dr. Pepper once in w blue moon these days but I prefer either coffee and tea without sweetener. The one thing I have noticed is by not drinking super sweet drinks I don't crave sweets as much as I used too when I was drinking diet soda daily. Plus aspartame gives me headaches like no other. I don't think it makes you gain weight but I do think they make you crave other bad foods and rationalize eating them because you are having a zero calorie drink. I drink a lot of water plus a glass of hibiscus tea just for something different. Diet soda might be good for some people but my overall health has been better since I stopped drinking them so frequently.
For some people, aspartame is a known migraine trigger. But that is a special case.
I am very glad it's not one of my triggers.3 -
I will have a Coke Zero or Diet Dr. Pepper once in w blue moon these days but I prefer either coffee and tea without sweetener. The one thing I have noticed is by not drinking super sweet drinks I don't crave sweets as much as I used too when I was drinking diet soda daily. Plus aspartame gives me headaches like no other. I don't think it makes you gain weight but I do think they make you crave other bad foods and rationalize eating them because you are having a zero calorie drink. I drink a lot of water plus a glass of hibiscus tea just for something different. Diet soda might be good for some people but my overall health has been better since I stopped drinking them so frequently.
That may have been your experience but it definitely hasn't been mine. I don't feel the need to rationalize any foods that I chose to eat, that seems pretty distorted to me. I have a healthy relationship with food though.
And what exactly is a 'bad' food?
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Wow, all these the responses are great!
I would like to clarify a bit (defend myself? Haha) and say that my Coke Zero is also my coffee/tea. I've never liked coffee or tea (I can drink some herbal teas that are basically just warm fruit water) and can't force myself to like it or drink it. So, admittedly, Coke Zero is my "morning coffee". I also drink about 6 cups of water a day (trying to get more in but damn it's hard!) so it's not like I'm only having soft drinks.
I'm not sure if I'll get blasted for this or not, but I also drink Coke Zero at times when I normally would have grazed or snacked. Like, when I'm not hungry but would have eaten something just to keep my hands busy (?). Now I grab a Coke Zero. Maybe not the healthiest choice in the world, but better than taking down half a bag of chips while watching tv, or nibbling away at a cheese & cracker platter at a party. Calorie wise, at least...6 -
Wow, all these the responses are great!
I would like to clarify a bit (defend myself? Haha) and say that my Coke Zero is also my coffee/tea. I've never liked coffee or tea (I can drink some herbal teas that are basically just warm fruit water) and can't force myself to like it or drink it. So, admittedly, Coke Zero is my "morning coffee". I also drink about 6 cups of water a day (trying to get more in but damn it's hard!) so it's not like I'm only having soft drinks.
I'm not sure if I'll get blasted for this or not, but I also drink Coke Zero at times when I normally would have grazed or snacked. Like, when I'm not hungry but would have eaten something just to keep my hands busy (?). Now I grab a Coke Zero. Maybe not the healthiest choice in the world, but better than taking down half a bag of chips while watching tv, or nibbling away at a cheese & cracker platter at a party. Calorie wise, at least...
Sounds like you've got a good system going. I too also drink low calorie/no calorie drinks when I have a desire for something sweet. It's not 'unhealthy'...there's no calories in it.3 -
Wow, all these the responses are great!
I would like to clarify a bit (defend myself? Haha) and say that my Coke Zero is also my coffee/tea. I've never liked coffee or tea (I can drink some herbal teas that are basically just warm fruit water) and can't force myself to like it or drink it. So, admittedly, Coke Zero is my "morning coffee". I also drink about 6 cups of water a day (trying to get more in but damn it's hard!) so it's not like I'm only having soft drinks.
I'm not sure if I'll get blasted for this or not, but I also drink Coke Zero at times when I normally would have grazed or snacked. Like, when I'm not hungry but would have eaten something just to keep my hands busy (?). Now I grab a Coke Zero. Maybe not the healthiest choice in the world, but better than taking down half a bag of chips while watching tv, or nibbling away at a cheese & cracker platter at a party. Calorie wise, at least...
I do this too, only with Diet Coke (well, before I got preggers, anyway)
And if anything, I've always been MORE sensitive to sweet things than my non-soda drinking friends. They eat things that I can't stomach due to the sweetness...3 -
I'm not sure if I'll get blasted for this or not, but I also drink Coke Zero at times when I normally would have grazed or snacked. Like, when I'm not hungry but would have eaten something just to keep my hands busy (?). Now I grab a Coke Zero. Maybe not the healthiest choice in the world, but better than taking down half a bag of chips while watching tv, or nibbling away at a cheese & cracker platter at a party. Calorie wise, at least...
Why would you get blasted for that? I do the same with coffee or (sometimes) tea.5 -
Your old trainer was clueless.thecrushinator wrote: »My old trainer told me that the reason behind diet soda causing weight gain was that the artificial sweeteners spike blood sugar more than regular sugar does, making people less insulin sensitive and then seeking even more sugar when you sugar crash. Also it (might just be me) turns you into a Macy's parade float.6 -
Wow, all these the responses are great!
I'm not sure if I'll get blasted for this or not, but I also drink Coke Zero at times when I normally would have grazed or snacked. Like, when I'm not hungry but would have eaten something just to keep my hands busy (?). Now I grab a Coke Zero. Maybe not the healthiest choice in the world, but better than taking down half a bag of chips while watching tv, or nibbling away at a cheese & cracker platter at a party. Calorie wise, at least...
I do this all the time. Diet Coke and a pickle. Haha. It gets the job done when you're out of calories but need something crunchy and satisfying.3
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