Worst woo you ever heard advertised regarding losing weight
murph155
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There is the company NutriMost that was advertising on the radio station I listen to. It really used to annoy me because they made all these ridiculous claims - you could lose 40lbs. in 40 days with no special diet or exercise (yeah, right); they could help you keep the weight off by 'resetting your hypothalamus' to your goal weight, like you're body is a bloody thermostat!
Anyway, my brother send me this article regarding the snake-oil salesman that started the company, all the FDA and FTC violations they have, etc.
https://www.chirobase.org/06DD/nutrimost/overview.html
At the end of the article they list all the disclaimers this company would put in their contracts:
Sounds reputable to me.
What ridiculously insane things have you heard?
Anyway, my brother send me this article regarding the snake-oil salesman that started the company, all the FDA and FTC violations they have, etc.
https://www.chirobase.org/06DD/nutrimost/overview.html
At the end of the article they list all the disclaimers this company would put in their contracts:
- NutriMost does not provide any medical advice, medical treatment, or diagnosis.
- The health information and materials given to the customer are provided with no warranty that they are fit to use.
- NutriMost does not assume responsibility for any errors.
- The information provided is "not necessarily based on scientific or reliable tests or studies."
- No product offered or recommended by NutriMost is intended to treat any medical condition.
- NutriMost will not be liable for any type of damages the customer many incur by using the information, advice, services or products provided.
- The customer agrees not to post any statements criticizing NutriMost through any online medium and agrees that any violation of this provision would make the customer liable for $35,990 in liquidated damages.
- The customer agrees to waive any rights under any law that would limit the waiver of any such rights.
Sounds reputable to me.
What ridiculously insane things have you heard?
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It changes weekly/monthly to whatever nonsense any of the rags at the checkout stand with Dr. Oz on the cover say.17
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[*] The customer agrees not to post any statements criticizing NutriMost through any online medium and agrees that any violation of this provision would make the customer liable for $35,990 in liquidated damages.
So does this mean you couldn't put on Facebook/Twitter "This stuff is *kitten* and doesn't work" or you get sued??
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That's hilarious and a good example of why you ALWAYS read the contract or TOS.6
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Those vibrating machines you just stand on and burn more calories than <insert actual exercise>19
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There was one talking about all the old sludge we have in our intestines and how if we use their product you can lose tons of weight and get a flat stomach. Sorry I haven't wwheard it in a while and forget the name of the product7
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I frequent a not quite so typical womens forum of a very typical womens' magazine. It's a bit untypical because it's full of highly educated women who don't read the *kitten* magazine but just hang around because other well educated women are there. It's got it's downsides, like the diet section, but many people pop in there every now and then to say a diet plan is rubbish, and why.
Anyway, quite a while ago the magazine ran a summer belly diet programme with 4 women working for that magazine, and for some reason it was posted in the sports forum. Moderator tried to get it out there but without success. Well those four women were classed based on their belly shape and were given a sports and diet programme for a couple of weeks and they reported back regularly. The sports programmes for some of them involved light walking and playing with a little pink weight as she'd otherwise get too muscular. The diet programmes included a complete crash diet, a crash diet with some odd homeopathic injections, a diet with little carbs but lots of fresh fruits and veggies and other oddities. Forum regulars kept on debunking all the *kitten* posted there, but the four ladies remained positive and kept on posting their progress. I guess they had to as this was all some odd sponsored content. A few weeks after the end of that programme the promised 'long-term' update was not posted. Not surprisingly. It was complete rubbish!11 -
singingflutelady wrote: »There was one talking about all the old sludge we have in our intestines and how if we use their product you can lose tons of weight and get a flat stomach. Sorry I haven't wwheard it in a while and forget the name of the product
I think I've heard this one on the radio in the mornings! The guy tries to scare you into thinking you have "TOXIC SLUDGE" in your intestines and that's why you can't lose weight!5 -
I cant remember what it was called but there was a seasoning awhile back that had a sweet side and a salty side and was guaranteed to make you lose like 30 lbs in 30 days.2
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[*] The customer agrees not to post any statements criticizing NutriMost through any online medium and agrees that any violation of this provision would make the customer liable for $35,990 in liquidated damages.
So does this mean you couldn't put on Facebook/Twitter "This stuff is *kitten* and doesn't work" or you get sued??
Apparently. Not sure if anyone every was, though.0 -
[*] The customer agrees not to post any statements criticizing NutriMost through any online medium and agrees that any violation of this provision would make the customer liable for $35,990 in liquidated damages.
So does this mean you couldn't put on Facebook/Twitter "This stuff is *kitten* and doesn't work" or you get sued??
It's a cool idea. If they aren't making money on selling their woo, they can make it by suing people who speak out against their woo. Either way, they are making money. Curious as to how they came up with this number though. It seems rather specific.5 -
I'd almost be willing to bet that those disclaimers wouldn't stand up in court - especially that one and the "NutriMost does not assume responsibility for any errors."7
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nutmegoreo wrote: »[*] The customer agrees not to post any statements criticizing NutriMost through any online medium and agrees that any violation of this provision would make the customer liable for $35,990 in liquidated damages.
So does this mean you couldn't put on Facebook/Twitter "This stuff is *kitten* and doesn't work" or you get sued??
It's a cool idea. If they aren't making money on selling their woo, they can make it by suing people who speak out against their woo. Either way, they are making money. Curious as to how they came up with this number though. It seems rather specific.
I was thinking the same thing. There must be some sort of threshold at $ 36K. Like the banks having to report cash deposits over $ 10K, so $ 9,999 doesn't get reported.1 -
Brimstone1973 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »There was one talking about all the old sludge we have in our intestines and how if we use their product you can lose tons of weight and get a flat stomach. Sorry I haven't wwheard it in a while and forget the name of the product
I think I've heard this one on the radio in the mornings! The guy tries to scare you into thinking you have "TOXIC SLUDGE" in your intestines and that's why you can't lose weight!
TEN POUNDS OF IT!! I remember that one because when I was googling some "cleanse" or other for debunking purposes in a thread last year this came up first, accompanied by some horrifying pictures.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »[*] The customer agrees not to post any statements criticizing NutriMost through any online medium and agrees that any violation of this provision would make the customer liable for $35,990 in liquidated damages.
So does this mean you couldn't put on Facebook/Twitter "This stuff is *kitten* and doesn't work" or you get sued??
It's a cool idea. If they aren't making money on selling their woo, they can make it by suing people who speak out against their woo. Either way, they are making money. Curious as to how they came up with this number though. It seems rather specific.
I was thinking the same thing. There must be some sort of threshold at $ 36K. Like the banks having to report cash deposits over $ 10K, so $ 9,999 doesn't get reported.
I also presumed some type of threshold. Unbelievable. Maybe I should start putting a disclaimer in my posts that if anyone flags it as "woo," I'm suing for $100. $100 because I'm not overly unreasonable :laugh:18 -
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singingflutelady wrote: »There was one talking about all the old sludge we have in our intestines and how if we use their product you can lose tons of weight and get a flat stomach. Sorry I haven't wwheard it in a while and forget the name of the product
Goop comes to mind
Stephen Colbert's segment on Goop was hilarious.
Anything GP sells is complete BS.5 -
[*] The customer agrees not to post any statements criticizing NutriMost through any online medium and agrees that any violation of this provision would make the customer liable for $35,990 in liquidated damages.So does this mean you couldn't put on Facebook/Twitter "This stuff is *kitten* and doesn't work" or you get sued??
I wonder how enforceable that would be...1 -
Last night on A Current Affair (Australia), there was a story on some 7 day diet. It was your typical rubbish; only fruit on day 1, but no bananas, you can eat butter and oil on day two, but still no bananas, etc.
What horrified me was that they had an accredited dietician claiming that it could make you lose 7 kg in 7 days.4 -
There is a local weight loss clinic run by a holistic doctor of some kind and an RD (facepalm), and in the TV commercials they say that if you join their program you can lose "up to" a lb of fat per day. Firstly, I know that's pretty much physically impossible, and secondly ZERO is included in "up to" 1 lb, duh. My SIL said a woman she knows went there and they gave her pH balancing water and put her on a VLCD to lose 20 lbs.
I'm also hating on the current Nutrisystem commercial running here where Marie Osmond says there are "no fads, no gimmicks" and then the voiceover tells you they are giving new members a free supply of their Turbo Shakes which "blast away fat". Then Marie says something like "Kiss that stubborn belly fat bye-bye!". <sigh>6 -
Radio commercials here for something called The Health Dare, change your body at the cellular level. Lose 80 pounds in 90 days the easy way, with no exercise, and only eliminate a few foods. LOLZ
http://www.thehealthdare.com/media.php
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I remember one of those "studies" years ago where you were supposed to get paid a thousand dollars to join thier study for three months. Free, three month supply provided. So out of curiosity, and to find out the catch I called.
It cost about $100 to join the "free" study, "to prove you were serious" which would be included in the $1000 you revieved back after "successfully completing" the study. Apparently it was fiber cookies.
She didn't think I was serious enough when I said that $100 is not the same as free, and pointed out the online reviews I was reading at the same time that said they had been doing this "study" and six to nine months later still hadn't received a payment.5 -
I've never seen The Health Dare promise 80 pounds in 90 days nor does it claim "no exercise". In fact, it demands an hour of exercise 6 days a week.1
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I find that the people that latch onto these products are engaging in "wishing it were true". So people come up with these products to make illogical claims because there are people out there that are either dumb enough or desperate enough to believe them. Like when they say "money back guarantee" but if you tried, you would find that they are either long gone or saying you didn't use the product correctly. Its shameful what these people do.1
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The four hour body. Just today I googled it and this came up.
You Will Learn (from the book presumably)
How to prevent fat gain while bingeing (X-mas, holidays, weekends)
How to increase fat-loss 300% with a few bags of ice
How Tim gained 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days, without steroids, and in four hours of total gym time
How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested
How to produce 15-minute female orgasms
How to triple testosterone and double sperm count
How to go from running 5 kilometers to 50 kilometers in 12 weeks
How to reverse “permanent” injuries
How to add 150+ pounds to your lifts in 6 months
I would like to see them double MY sperm count. And 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days with four hours of total gym time. Give me a break.
If I had a 15 minute orgasm my husband would probably call and ambulance because he would think I was having a seizure.
According to the person who posted in the forums today it is a low carb based diet. <shrug>
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The absolute worst weight loss advice I've ever heard: Eating less than 750 Cal/day for 30 days (only raw veggies)
The crap, but at least it's not dangerous: "the breathing diet" ie - lose fat through "proper breathing".
The weirdest: Upside down diet - eat food while inverted. Don't even know why??? But yeah, no.1 -
It Works! Wraps. I had an overweight friend selling them. If it doesn’t work, you didn’t apply the wrap properly. If you don’t lose weight, they will say, ‘but of course you need to be exercising and eating healthily.’ You don’t say?
I knew it was terrible and would never use it, but because she was flogging it so aggressively, I became well versed in the whole thing. I ended up researching reviews. It sounds as though there’s some sort of sign up involving your credit card that is extremely difficult to get out of.
I had to remove that high school friend from my fb, because nothing else would come up in my feed except all her posts about financial freedom and wouldn’t you like to... blah blah blah...
I watched her go through this for a few years and apparently she still sells it. When I removed her from fb, she’d been doing it for at least 2-3 years and was twice the size of when she started. It annoys me, because you can’t point that out unless you’re a heartless person who thinks it’s ok to fat shame people (but it was acceptable for her to harass all of us about our weight to make money). And her new customers wouldn’t have a clue that it’s not working for her either.1 -
The worst diet advice I was given, although it wasn't a company advertising, was here by a member on MFP. Advice was:
To do "Keto" as this was the fastest and healthiest way to lose weight quickly. By following Keto
I didn't need to eat above 700 to 800 calories a day, as I would feel full on this amount. That it was easy to eat even fewer calories over time, as my body adjusted and no longer needed carbs. To include fasting days, to help speed up my weight loss. Once comfortable with fasting, I should then aim for a "30 day fast" during which time I could/should only drink water and consume nothing else.
I tried pointing out the dangers, of VLCD & including (for me), my cardiologist advice to limit my fat to 40g a day. Was then accused of "keto bashing", being part of the hate group here on mfp.
That it was impossible to lose muscle or have any other kind of health problems.
Just glad I wasn't new to MFP and didn't get tangled in this mess, myself!22 -
Brimstone1973 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »There was one talking about all the old sludge we have in our intestines and how if we use their product you can lose tons of weight and get a flat stomach. Sorry I haven't wwheard it in a while and forget the name of the product
I think I've heard this one on the radio in the mornings! The guy tries to scare you into thinking you have "TOXIC SLUDGE" in your intestines and that's why you can't lose weight!
"toxic sludge, like spackle" is the version I used to hear constantly.0 -
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Wendyanneroberts wrote: »The worst diet advice I was given, although it wasn't a company advertising, was here by a member on MFP. Advice was:
To do "Keto" as this was the fastest and healthiest way to lose weight quickly. By following Keto
I didn't need to eat above 700 to 800 calories a day, as I would feel full on this amount. That it was easy to eat even fewer calories over time, as my body adjusted and no longer needed carbs. To include fasting days, to help speed up my weight loss. Once comfortable with fasting, I should then aim for a "30 day fast" during which time I could/should only drink water and consume nothing else.
I tried pointing out the dangers, of VLCD & including (for me), my cardiologist advice to limit my fat to 40g a day. Was then accused of "keto bashing", being part of the hate group here on mfp.
That it was impossible to lose muscle or have any other kind of health problems.
Just glad I wasn't new to MFP and didn't get tangled in this mess, myself!
Wow! Where'd you find this kitten? (Every word I thought of wasn't very polite. I figured the kitten would allow for reader's choice.) Obviously found them here on MFP, just wondering if this conversation happened through PM or on the boards. Some people shouldn't be allowed to internet.4
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