How do I get more protein without the fat ?

virleach
virleach Posts: 20 Member
edited November 20 in Food and Nutrition
Any thoughts :
This is what I should be doing
2119 calories
45% protein - 241 grams
35% carbs- 183 grams
20% fat- 47 grams
How do I get that much protein in a day with out going over my fat intake
That's what I always struggle with
Even when I was at 1700 calories ( 182 g.)
I was having problems reaching it
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  • virleach
    virleach Posts: 20 Member
    I am in process of toning,so I am weight lifting
    I only have 15 lbs left to lose, so I had to change my routine cause I hit a plateau.
    Since I have been plateau for a year,its been suggested I up my calories and switch to macro counting
  • kimkimcoleman
    kimkimcoleman Posts: 105 Member
    That's a lot of protein but try adding more non-meat protein sources. Beans, lentils, peas, nonfat greek yogurt-none of which have much, if any fat but lots of protein. Beyond meat is a meat substitute made from pea protein that tastes good and is loaded with protein.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    edited August 2017
    Crazy high protein, unless you weigh 240*. But, to answer your question, non-fat greek yogurt...

    *1 gram of protein per pound of body weight (which is still high. I shoot for 0.8 g per pound)
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    virleach wrote: »
    I am in process of toning,so I am weight lifting
    I only have 15 lbs left to lose, so I had to change my routine cause I hit a plateau.
    Since I have been plateau for a year,its been suggested I up my calories and switch to macro counting

    If you haven't lost in a year, upping your calories isn't the thing to do. Instead I would look at your logging to see what can be tightened up (food scale to weigh everything, accurate entries, recipe builder). And that amount of protein is very high and your fat is low. Unless you have a medical reason to watch your fat intake, I would change the percentages.
  • capaul42
    capaul42 Posts: 1,390 Member
    Still, even counting macros, 45% is very high for protein. The general rule is 1gm per 1lb if lean body weight. So at 150lbs, I generally aim for 100+ which is about 25%. And that's with weight training. 45% is excessive.
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    That's a way high level of protein. You don't need that much.
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    white fish like cod or haddock, and non fatty fish, Lots of protein but low on fat.
  • virleach
    virleach Posts: 20 Member
    Any suggestions how I find out how much macros I really need ?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    More than about 1 gram per Lb of LBM and you're just making expensive glucose.

    As for low fat sources...cod, shrimp, chicken breast...
  • virleach
    virleach Posts: 20 Member
    Yes fat is good for you but fat is fat and too much is not good
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    edited August 2017
    virleach wrote: »
    Any suggestions how I find out how much macros I really need ?
    Crazy high protein, unless you weigh 240*. But, to answer your question, non-fat greek yogurt...

    *1 gram of protein per pound of body weight (which is still high. I shoot for 0.8 g per pound)


    Then approximately 0.4 g of fat per pound.

    Fill the rest in with carbs.
  • virleach
    virleach Posts: 20 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    More than about 1 gram per Lb of LBM and you're just making expensive glucose.

    As for low fat sources...cod, shrimp, chicken breast...

    Is that just for protein.what about carbs and fat
    And once I get my macro percentage how do I know my calorie range should be.
    At this moment I am doing
    1700 calories
    182 g protein
    And I tap out around 1500 calories when my macros is reached and its my fat intake that keeps me from hitting my protein mark
  • virleach
    virleach Posts: 20 Member
    virleach wrote: »
    Any suggestions how I find out how much macros I really need ?
    Crazy high protein, unless you weigh 240*. But, to answer your question, non-fat greek yogurt...

    *1 gram of protein per pound of body weight (which is still high. I shoot for 0.8 g per pound)


    Then approximately 0.4 g of fat per pound.

    Fill the rest in with carbs.

    Do you calculate lb weight by what you weigh present or ideal weight
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    virleach wrote: »
    virleach wrote: »
    Any suggestions how I find out how much macros I really need ?
    Crazy high protein, unless you weigh 240*. But, to answer your question, non-fat greek yogurt...

    *1 gram of protein per pound of body weight (which is still high. I shoot for 0.8 g per pound)


    Then approximately 0.4 g of fat per pound.

    Fill the rest in with carbs.

    Do you calculate lb weight by what you weigh present or ideal weight

    Ideal weight, if you're trying to lose, would be fine.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    20% is awfully low for fat, you don't need to be afraid to eat more fat. Your body and brain need fats. Lower your current calories since you are not losing weight, raise your fat percentage, and go for it.
  • RebeccaNaegle
    RebeccaNaegle Posts: 236 Member
    I know the struggle I need more protein and less fat! I buy Protein2o. It is a fruit flavored drink that is only 15 grams of Protein and 1 carb per bottle. The grape and coconut are my favorite. Also, some proteins are low fat, like shrimp, cod, chicken breast etc. I just prefer some of my protein with these drinks because it is high and I cant eat that much! They sell them at a lot of gas stations and on amazon too.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    virleach wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    More than about 1 gram per Lb of LBM and you're just making expensive glucose.

    As for low fat sources...cod, shrimp, chicken breast...

    Is that just for protein.what about carbs and fat
    And once I get my macro percentage how do I know my calorie range should be.
    At this moment I am doing
    1700 calories
    182 g protein
    And I tap out around 1500 calories when my macros is reached and its my fat intake that keeps me from hitting my protein mark

    Yes, that's for protein. I'm a 182 Lb male @ around 15% BF...I would max out on protein at around 154 grams but I don't get that high normally...I'm usually more around 120-140 depending and my muscles are just fine.

    Dietary fat recommendations I've seen are typically 0.35 - 0.45 grams per Lb of BW...

    Honestly, I've never done this much hand wringing over macros and I'm pretty fit and whatnot...I think you're getting all wrapped up in something that is important to be aware of, but not necessary to obsess about...and your macros really don't have much of anything to do with weight stalls and whatnot...
  • virleach
    virleach Posts: 20 Member
    virleach wrote: »
    virleach wrote: »
    Any suggestions how I find out how much macros I really need ?
    Crazy high protein, unless you weigh 240*. But, to answer your question, non-fat greek yogurt...

    *1 gram of protein per pound of body weight (which is still high. I shoot for 0.8 g per pound)



    Then approximately 0.4 g of fat per pound.

    Fill the rest in with carbs.

    Do you calculate lb weight by what you weigh present or ideal weight

    Ideal weight, if you're trying to lose, would be fine.

    I went to figure it out and I am not sure if that will work
    It would be 32/32/36%
    My carb range would be same as my protein range
    I will try to play with this and see what happens
    Little worried since I have been told to keep fat low and protein high
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    There is nothing wrong or unhealthy about fats, especially if they are UFA. In the grand scheme of things, I wouldn't put much focus on fats or carbs.. I would aim for calories and then get up to .7 to 1g of protein per lb of weight. Personally, I am 175 and aim for 140 to 180g of protein (mainly for satiety), 30g or more of fiber and ensure i get adequate calories to lose weight.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    virleach wrote: »
    virleach wrote: »
    virleach wrote: »
    Any suggestions how I find out how much macros I really need ?
    Crazy high protein, unless you weigh 240*. But, to answer your question, non-fat greek yogurt...

    *1 gram of protein per pound of body weight (which is still high. I shoot for 0.8 g per pound)



    Then approximately 0.4 g of fat per pound.

    Fill the rest in with carbs.

    Do you calculate lb weight by what you weigh present or ideal weight

    Ideal weight, if you're trying to lose, would be fine.

    I went to figure it out and I am not sure if that will work
    It would be 32/32/36%
    My carb range would be same as my protein range
    I will try to play with this and see what happens
    Little worried since I have been told to keep fat low and protein high

    The thing is, you have to take that statement in context. "Keep fat low" usually means under 30 - 40 percent. Because fatty foods are high in calories per volume of food it's very easy for a typical American diet to exceed that. They aren't saying eat only 20% - unless you have something like a liver problem I don't know of any diet that recommends that.
  • BenjaminMFP88
    BenjaminMFP88 Posts: 660 Member
    virleach wrote: »
    Any thoughts :
    This is what I should be doing
    2119 calories
    45% protein - 241 grams
    35% carbs- 183 grams
    20% fat- 47 grams
    How do I get that much protein in a day with out going over my fat intake
    That's what I always struggle with
    Even when I was at 1700 calories ( 182 g.)
    I was having problems reaching it

    Lean meats and possibly certain protein powders are going to be your friend/enemy. I hit 230 grams about a day and without those two things, I'm not sure I could make it regularly.
  • virleach
    virleach Posts: 20 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong or unhealthy about fats, especially if they are UFA. In the grand scheme of things, I wouldn't put much focus on fats or carbs.. I would aim for calories and then get up to .7 to 1g of protein per lb of weight. Personally, I am 175 and aim for 140 to 180g of protein (mainly for satiety), 30g or more of fiber and ensure i get adequate calories to lose weight.

    I am female
    5'7
    170 lbs
    Body fat %-- 27%
    Fat weight--46 lbs
    Lean weight--124 lbs
    And I calorie counted so long until after I plateau and nothing was working so I switched to macro counting and then I started seeing toning happening and inches being lost. I am just trying to keep pushing forward and continue getting results ,looking for help not wanting to sabotage all that I have been working towards.
  • virleach
    virleach Posts: 20 Member
    I thank everyone for the comments
    They all have been very helpful
  • svgco
    svgco Posts: 9 Member
    curious, where does this 1g per lb come from? Anyone got links to the underlying research?
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    Based on your lean weight - I'd do about 130-140g (I did 140g at 148lbs)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    virleach wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong or unhealthy about fats, especially if they are UFA. In the grand scheme of things, I wouldn't put much focus on fats or carbs.. I would aim for calories and then get up to .7 to 1g of protein per lb of weight. Personally, I am 175 and aim for 140 to 180g of protein (mainly for satiety), 30g or more of fiber and ensure i get adequate calories to lose weight.

    I am female
    5'7
    170 lbs
    Body fat %-- 27%
    Fat weight--46 lbs
    Lean weight--124 lbs
    And I calorie counted so long until after I plateau and nothing was working so I switched to macro counting and then I started seeing toning happening and inches being lost. I am just trying to keep pushing forward and continue getting results ,looking for help not wanting to sabotage all that I have been working towards.

    You tone or lose body fat but losing weight and maintaining muscle (more muscle = more lean). So for a female, you would probably need 120 to 140g of protein and have a small to moderate deficit (about .5 to 1% loss per week)

    What is more important is training. Resistance training, particularly one that is based on progressive overload is going to really help get your lean, develop your muscles and make you look fit. And you can do that is 70% fat or 20% fat. Fat and carbs don't matter too much outside of satiety, pending you are hitting all nutritional minimums.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,419 Member
    edited August 2017
    svgco wrote: »
    curious, where does this 1g per lb come from? Anyone got links to the underlying research?

    I haven't seen that in any post in this thread except the original poster, who we all feel is over-doing the protein.

    Oh, I guess quiksylver said it too...well then. I don't know her rationale for it.

    The general minimum recommendation is .8-1g per pound of LBM. (Lean body mass) - or 1g per kilogram of total weight, which is close to the same thing.
  • Rusty740
    Rusty740 Posts: 749 Member
    Here's a really good way to remember what macros are for what. Very generally...If you want keto or something, go for it, that's not what this is, but its fine if you find it works. Remember, these are just roughish, but easy to remember.

    0.5 g/lb fat either bulk or cut (this is a minimum)
    1 g/lb protein (more for a cut, less for a bulk) That's right I said less for a bulk.
    2 g/lb carbs (more for a bulk, less for a cut, but depends on your activity)

    General rule is if protein goes up, carbs go down and vice versa.

    Total calories still rule.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    svgco wrote: »
    curious, where does this 1g per lb come from? Anyone got links to the underlying research?

    I haven't seen that in any post in this thread except the original poster, who we all feel is over-doing the protein.

    The general recommendation is .8-1g per pound of LBM. (Lean body mass) - or 1g per kilogram of total weight, which is very close to the same thing.

    It depends on the meta analysis. Some do recommend as much as 1g per lb, but that is generally for those more lean..

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549
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