Calories in strength training?
jaysanchez4
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I normally do about 20-30 minutes of strength training 4-5 times a week. Is there a way to know how many calories are burned during a strength training session?
Thank You!
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Depending on what type of strength training you do, in most cases it's not enough to worry about logging it.
But then again, what are your goals?1 -
Go under cardio in the exercise tab - search for "strength training" - log it. That'll get you a probably inaccurate calorie estimate but that's how it's done around here.2
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Strength training calorie burn is quite difficult to measure, But providing that you keep your average heart rate constantly above 120 bpm, 300-400 kcal per hour should be close enough.1
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In that case i have been wrong a lot, since it seems to apply in my case.4 -
Strength training calorie burn is quite difficult to measure, But providing that you keep your average heart rate constantly above 120 bpm, 300-400 kcal per hour should be close enough.
Keeping HR elevated isn't the goal or even a desirable outcome of strength training!
And HR is an appalling measure of calories burned during strength training.
Log it under cardio as "strength training" and accept it's just a rough guess based on your weight and METS.8 -
Ironandwine69 wrote: »Depending on what type of strength training you do, in most cases it's not enough to worry about logging it.
But then again, what are your goals?
Goals are to lose weight, look slimmer and more trim. I currently weight 219, looking to get to around 195.
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Ready2Rock206 wrote: »Go under cardio in the exercise tab - search for "strength training" - log it. That'll get you a probably inaccurate calorie estimate but that's how it's done around here.
This. If I don't log my generic strength training activities I just end up miserable and losing unnecessarily fast. Log it and see what your weight does to know how accurate it is.4 -
Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in1
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HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.6 -
Thanks everyone, I eat within my calories every day and have no incorporated cardio and weight training to hopefully help in my weight loss.0
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I weight train 5 days a week. I do splits though.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
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Agreed, unless you are circuit training w/ no rest periods. Average sets of 10 reps don't really get you heart rate up, especially if you rest is over 1 min between sets1 -
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.14 -
HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
At the same time?3 -
HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
How are you tracking this gain?4 -
HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
Define "a lot".5 -
HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
Were you obese when you started lifting? How are you tracking/assessing your muscle gains? How much is a lot? What kind of program have you been running?5 -
jennybearlv wrote: »Ready2Rock206 wrote: »Go under cardio in the exercise tab - search for "strength training" - log it. That'll get you a probably inaccurate calorie estimate but that's how it's done around here.
This. If I don't log my generic strength training activities I just end up miserable and losing unnecessarily fast. Log it and see what your weight does to know how accurate it is.
This ^^^^
Same with me. I read so often that you didn't burn many calories weight training so not worth counting then, I didn't.
You should have seen me a few weeks into heavy lifting.
Dropping weight like crazy, and lethargic.
The MFP recommendation for lifting is 4 calories more than my own numbers indicate. So for me those numbers work.
Use them as a base and adjust as needed.
Cheers, h.2 -
jaysanchez4 wrote: »I normally do about 20-30 minutes of strength training 4-5 times a week. Is there a way to know how many calories are burned during a strength training session?
Thank You!
It's a depressingly small number. I wouldn't worry about it. If you start to lose too fast, then it's worth revisiting.2 -
Hmmm, too late to add to my post.
In light of @Mr_Knight's observation; I think it can depend on ones stats.
I, for example am 5'1, 100-105lbs, and 64, those 200 lifting cals are big when my absolute sedentary maintenance is 1200 (general activity maintenance 1350-1400). Lifting, and a couple of hours a week of SS cardio plus a yoga session push me to a comfortable ~1600.
People with a bigger calorie allowance may not need the lifting cals. I do, and probably other lighter, or lower calorie people do too.
Obviously a very individual thing and worth monitoring not only for if loss is too fast or slow, but also for general mood and activity level.
Cheers, h.8 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
At the same time?
I've been doing that myself. Over 5 month, I've had a 20lb drop in weight and some real gains in muscles/strength. Two days ago I discovered a crevasse that went from my neck to my cleavage while flexed from pushing myself. That's muscle. I developed visual pectoral muscles, along with other muscles all over my body.6 -
HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
Same here. Congratulations on doing something that is fairly difficult. Balancing calorie deficits and macros. Well done!6 -
BabyBear76 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
At the same time?
I've been doing that myself. Over 5 month, I've had a 20lb drop in weight and some real gains in muscles/strength. Two days ago I discovered a crevasse that went from my neck to my cleavage while flexed from pushing myself. That's muscle. I developed visual pectoral muscles, along with other muscles all over my body.
Muscle tissue growth is not the same as muscle strength gains nor is it the same as being able to see defined muscles revealed by fat loss.
IIRC, you were obese at one time.
Muscle tissue gains are possible while eating at a deficit if progressively lifting in newbie lifters but it is usually obese males or teens doing this.
You have said you've run bulk and cut cycles, so it's disingenous to chime in that "this is happening" to you, because you might have muscle gains, but they would likely have happened on a bulk.10 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »BabyBear76 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
At the same time?
I've been doing that myself. Over 5 month, I've had a 20lb drop in weight and some real gains in muscles/strength. Two days ago I discovered a crevasse that went from my neck to my cleavage while flexed from pushing myself. That's muscle. I developed visual pectoral muscles, along with other muscles all over my body.
Muscle tissue growth is not the same as muscle strength gains nor is it the same as being able to see defined muscles revealed by fat loss.
IIRC, you were obese at one time.
Muscle tissue gains are possible while eating at a deficit if progressively lifting in newbie lifters but it is usually obese males or teens doing this.
You have said you've run bulk and cut cycles, so it's disingenous to chime in that "this is happening" to you, because you might have muscle gains, but they would likely have happened on a bulk.
Well all of this^but also, how are you determining whether you've had muscle mass gains? Visually doesn't cut it and means nothing really. Have you gotten dexa scans? Hydrostatic body composition analysis? If so what was the base line and what were the subsequent scan results with dates? You've made this claim before and you've been asked this before but you've yet to provide an answer beyond your own anecdotal opinions.4 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »BabyBear76 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
At the same time?
I've been doing that myself. Over 5 month, I've had a 20lb drop in weight and some real gains in muscles/strength. Two days ago I discovered a crevasse that went from my neck to my cleavage while flexed from pushing myself. That's muscle. I developed visual pectoral muscles, along with other muscles all over my body.
Muscle tissue growth is not the same as muscle strength gains nor is it the same as being able to see defined muscles revealed by fat loss.
IIRC, you were obese at one time.
Muscle tissue gains are possible while eating at a deficit if progressively lifting in newbie lifters but it is usually obese males or teens doing this.
You have said you've run bulk and cut cycles, so it's disingenous to chime in that "this is happening" to you, because you might have muscle gains, but they would likely have happened on a bulk.
It is muscle growth. The visible muscle mass is increasing. Not just visible due to fat loss. I am not an obese male nor a teen. I just work really hard at it. As far as increases in strength, there is no way I can go from having a hard time doing just barbell squats (not those sissy barely parallel - but full Olympic squats) to warming up with 180lb squats without muscle gains. There is no way my shoulders got 3" wider while losing weight without an increase in muscle. I also never stop trying to gain muscle, even when cutting, I ramp up cardio but maintain the lifting regimen to keep building. Also can you provide a link or at least explain how it's possible to increase (substantial) strength without and increase in muscle.....10 -
BabyBear76 wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »BabyBear76 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
At the same time?
I've been doing that myself. Over 5 month, I've had a 20lb drop in weight and some real gains in muscles/strength. Two days ago I discovered a crevasse that went from my neck to my cleavage while flexed from pushing myself. That's muscle. I developed visual pectoral muscles, along with other muscles all over my body.
Muscle tissue growth is not the same as muscle strength gains nor is it the same as being able to see defined muscles revealed by fat loss.
IIRC, you were obese at one time.
Muscle tissue gains are possible while eating at a deficit if progressively lifting in newbie lifters but it is usually obese males or teens doing this.
You have said you've run bulk and cut cycles, so it's disingenous to chime in that "this is happening" to you, because you might have muscle gains, but they would likely have happened on a bulk.
It is muscle growth. The visible muscle mass is increasing. Not just visible due to fat loss. I am not an obese male nor a teen. I just work really hard at it. As far as increases in strength, there is no way I can go from having a hard time doing just barbell squats (not those sissy barely parallel - but full Olympic squats) to warming up with 180lb squats without muscle gains. There is no way my shoulders got 3" wider while losing weight without an increase in muscle. I also never stop trying to gain muscle, even when cutting, I ramp up cardio but maintain the lifting regimen to keep building. Also can you provide a link or at least explain how it's possible to increase (substantial) strength without and increase in muscle.....
Strength gains in a deficit can be the result of neuromuscular adaptations. Essentially, your existing muscles get more efficient. At a certain point there will be a rate of diminishing returns where the adaptations will max out. The existing muscle tissue can get more prominent and developed. That doesn't mean hypertrophy, increase in muscle mass has occured. This is pretty common knowledge. Google it if you don't believe me.
So, you still insist on justifying your claim of muscle growth with visuals. Visuals are not reliable. Again, have you had a dexa scan or hydrostatic body composition testing?? Yes or no? Stop ducking the question. Either you have or you haven't. If you haven't, you are only speculating and probably inaccurately so.5 -
BabyBear76 wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »BabyBear76 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
At the same time?
I've been doing that myself. Over 5 month, I've had a 20lb drop in weight and some real gains in muscles/strength. Two days ago I discovered a crevasse that went from my neck to my cleavage while flexed from pushing myself. That's muscle. I developed visual pectoral muscles, along with other muscles all over my body.
Muscle tissue growth is not the same as muscle strength gains nor is it the same as being able to see defined muscles revealed by fat loss.
IIRC, you were obese at one time.
Muscle tissue gains are possible while eating at a deficit if progressively lifting in newbie lifters but it is usually obese males or teens doing this.
You have said you've run bulk and cut cycles, so it's disingenous to chime in that "this is happening" to you, because you might have muscle gains, but they would likely have happened on a bulk.
It is muscle growth. The visible muscle mass is increasing. Not just visible due to fat loss. I am not an obese male nor a teen. I just work really hard at it. As far as increases in strength, there is no way I can go from having a hard time doing just barbell squats (not those sissy barely parallel - but full Olympic squats) to warming up with 180lb squats without muscle gains. There is no way my shoulders got 3" wider while losing weight without an increase in muscle. I also never stop trying to gain muscle, even when cutting, I ramp up cardio but maintain the lifting regimen to keep building. Also can you provide a link or at least explain how it's possible to increase (substantial) strength without and increase in muscle.....
It's quite possible (and very common) to make significant strength gains without putting on muscle. Here's a great, pretty in depth discussion of the neurophysiology involved: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/determinants-of-strength-performance-part-3.html/7 -
BabyBear76 wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »BabyBear76 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »
I understand that but I'm talking about calories burnt from weight training . You don't need to count them as long as your eating in a deficit and getting in protein . I've been doing this for soo long and I've gained a lot of muscle while losing weight also.HarlemNY17 wrote: »Why are you weight training for 4-5 days ? You don't really need to worry about the calories . Just get your protein in
Since one of her stated goals is to lose weight, she does in fact need to worry about her calories. Calorie intake drives weight gain/loss.
At the same time?
I've been doing that myself. Over 5 month, I've had a 20lb drop in weight and some real gains in muscles/strength. Two days ago I discovered a crevasse that went from my neck to my cleavage while flexed from pushing myself. That's muscle. I developed visual pectoral muscles, along with other muscles all over my body.
Muscle tissue growth is not the same as muscle strength gains nor is it the same as being able to see defined muscles revealed by fat loss.
IIRC, you were obese at one time.
Muscle tissue gains are possible while eating at a deficit if progressively lifting in newbie lifters but it is usually obese males or teens doing this.
You have said you've run bulk and cut cycles, so it's disingenous to chime in that "this is happening" to you, because you might have muscle gains, but they would likely have happened on a bulk.
It is muscle growth. The visible muscle mass is increasing. Not just visible due to fat loss. I am not an obese male nor a teen. I just work really hard at it. As far as increases in strength, there is no way I can go from having a hard time doing just barbell squats (not those sissy barely parallel - but full Olympic squats) to warming up with 180lb squats without muscle gains. There is no way my shoulders got 3" wider while losing weight without an increase in muscle. I also never stop trying to gain muscle, even when cutting, I ramp up cardio but maintain the lifting regimen to keep building. Also can you provide a link or at least explain how it's possible to increase (substantial) strength without and increase in muscle.....
My shoulders look like they grew too.
You know why?
Because I lost so much arm fat that my shoulders are now more prominent than my arms are.
As @mmapags keeps reiterating, visuals are an unreliable indicator.
Also, you once again keep offering the intensity of your effort as evidence of the result you're claiming. That means nothing. I trained as hard as I could with weight lifting and plateaued with strength gains because I'm in that small percentage of people who don't make the neuro-muscal adaptations necessary to continue progressing. Doesn't mean I didn't work hard. Hard work =/= the result you necessarily think you're getting.5 -
It's amazing how quiet it gets sometimes when people are asked for proof of their muscle growth claims besides they say so.
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