Struggling to get in Protein

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  • MegaMooseEsq
    MegaMooseEsq Posts: 3,118 Member
    edited August 2017
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    lane55 wrote: »
    skymningen wrote: »
    Did you talk to your doctor how much protein would be okay? Because I don't see the difference for the kidney between getting it as a shake or a meal/snack. It is still protein you kidney has to metabolise.


    It's the whey and soy protein from the shakes he said. He said normal protein from food sources are fine but not to supplement with protein powders.

    He's saying that because that would naturally decrease your protein intake. As far as your kidneys are concerned, there's no difference between eating chicken and drinking supplements other than with supplements you can easily hit high protein targets...with kidney issues, you want to limit protein in general...so yeah, no supplementation and just eat normally rather than trying to replace your supplements with "food" protein...you're basically trying to supplement your supplement which is the last thing your doctor would want you do do with kidney issues I'm sure...

    Personally, I think you're misinterpreting your doctors intentions...

    This makes a lot of sense to me.

    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    LovesDogsAndBooks wrote: »
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    lane55 wrote: »
    RAD_Fitness wrote: »
    Why do you need to find more protein snacks if your doctor is telling you cut out protein?

    You could just have less of the protein supplements...

    Yeah the doctor wants me to cut out whey and soy protein from protein supplements and only get it from food sources.

    Whey is food. Soy is food. Please take some time to articulate yourself in words that communicate something.

    She is articulating just fine. Whether the doctor's opinion is true that protein from the supplement is processed differently by the body than from food directly I don't know.

    I disagree. To specifically exclude soy and whey sources of protein is to exclude a vegetable source and a dairy source. The dairy source is also from an animal, and the possibility exists that the doctor giving the advice wants OP to avoid animal sources of protein. What's left? Fungus? Mushrooms have a little protein in them. Thank you for the "woo". I see that 2 others replied also commenting that OP wasn't communicating effectively.

    It's fine to ask someone for a clarification, but your last sentence came across rather rude.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    OP, I think you need some clarification from your doctor...if you have impaired kidney function, you don't want to consume excessive amounts of protein regardless of where it's coming from. Protein is protein...trying to hit the same amount of protein you were hitting with supplements is going to have the same result as supplementing...
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    I'm agreeing with those that think perhaps he meant decrease protein overall and the easiest way is to just stop supplementing.

    Curious, what was your daily protein intake?
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    OP, I think you need some clarification from your doctor...if you have impaired kidney function, you don't want to consume excessive amounts of protein regardless of where it's coming from. Protein is protein...trying to hit the same amount of protein you were hitting with supplements is going to have the same result as supplementing...

    Definitely get this clarified. Eating a high amount of protein with kidney disease can be very disasterous
  • misnomer1
    misnomer1 Posts: 646 Member
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    RAD_Fitness wrote: »
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    lane55 wrote: »
    RAD_Fitness wrote: »
    Why do you need to find more protein snacks if your doctor is telling you cut out protein?

    You could just have less of the protein supplements...

    Yeah the doctor wants me to cut out whey and soy protein from protein supplements and only get it from food sources.

    Whey is food. Soy is food. Please take some time to articulate yourself in words that communicate something.

    What's your problem? She's here for help.

    OP any meat will have protein, dried meats like beef jerky, chicken jerky and turkey jerky will have a lot of protein.

    You can have some egg whites in your meals or have boiled eggs as a snack that will pack some protein.

    You can also find casein (maybe not if it's just dairy that you're trying to avoid), egg white, pea and hemp protein powders to help supplement.

    She has kidney issues. She shouldn't be increasing her protein intake. Her Dr told her not to supplement protein so idk why she should eat more protein.

    Agree. Whether doc is right or wrong about supplements, their diagnosis about the kidney issue stands.
  • HarlemNY17
    HarlemNY17 Posts: 135 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    HarlemNY17 wrote: »
    Flapjacked protein pancakes or kodiak protein pancakes

    Flapjacked contains whey protein isolate. If there is a medical reason for OP to avoid whey or soy protein powders (I'm skeptical), this wouldn't be a good idea.

    Oh yea then it wouldn't be a good idea . She wasn't really specific she just said other than shakes and smoothies
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  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    @lane55 How much protein are you currently getting?
  • VeronicaA76
    VeronicaA76 Posts: 1,116 Member
    My go to protien snack is a can of tuna or chicken, a hard boiled egg, a squeeze of mustard, a tablespoon of dill relish and two tablespoons of salsa (I make my own because it's dirt cheap and I like a variety of hot peppers). Mash everything together and just eat it with a spoon. Sometimes I'll eat it for 4 or 5 crackers if my carbs are really low.
  • xvolution
    xvolution Posts: 721 Member
    edited August 2017
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    LovesDogsAndBooks wrote: »
    JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
    lane55 wrote: »
    RAD_Fitness wrote: »
    Why do you need to find more protein snacks if your doctor is telling you cut out protein?

    You could just have less of the protein supplements...

    Yeah the doctor wants me to cut out whey and soy protein from protein supplements and only get it from food sources.

    Whey is food. Soy is food. Please take some time to articulate yourself in words that communicate something.

    She is articulating just fine. Whether the doctor's opinion is true that protein from the supplement is processed differently by the body than from food directly I don't know.

    Why would it be processed any differently?

    It's all a matter of HBV proteins (High Biological Value, protein sources that contains all the necessary amino acids the body needs). HBV protein is used more effectively by the body than sources with incomplete sets of amino acids, which reduces how much waste protein there is floating in the blood.

    Maybe you can ask if you can use soy-based protein powder to get the protein you need? Soy is the only plant-based protein source that is HBV, while whey isn't. If not, then pretty much all meats are HBV, so anything with low sodium and potassium should work as well.
  • Muscleflex79
    Muscleflex79 Posts: 1,917 Member
    I'm curious too - how much protein are you getting in a day??
  • Silentpadna
    Silentpadna Posts: 1,306 Member
    There's some context missing here. I've read the thread and I believe it's still not clear exactly what the problem is. That said, I'd hesitate in giving advice about protein sources (even though said advice in terms of finding sources is sound) because the OP has not mentioned 1) what her current level of protein intake is, 2) what her protein intake goal is, 3) the reasons behind those goals, i.e. building or maintaining current muscle mass, and 4) what "through the roof" actually means.

    I think that context is necessary to adequately communicate any answers or advice.
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