Confusion on calories in shrimp
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HarlemNY17 wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »Because it's a Processed food
What in the world does that have to do with OP's question?
Processed Foods are always higher in calories and sodium!! Clearly she wanted to know why her shrimps were so high in calories and that's why .
Weird. I eat frozen fruit and vegetables, and their calories are not higher and they don't have added sodium.
Pretty sure the same is true with plenty of frozen shrimp too. Whether OP's have added ingredients we do not know, but if they do not there is no basis to claim the processing increased their calories or added sodium. Could be something about the frozen weight, could be the kind of shrimp. Seeing the packaging would, of course, help.
It's true that some frozen foods have added salt solution and it looks to me like the Walmart brands might (or some of them do), but that doesn't mean they all do.
Also, where do you live that you can get never frozen shrimp, because I am pretty sure that where I am (Chicago) the stuff unfrozen in the store was once frozen. You need to be aware of stuff like that before going on about frozen foods being processed and therefore bad, oh no!2 -
I've also been known to add salt when cooking foods. I'm pretty sure that's common practice. Not everyone is scared of sodium.3
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If there are any added ingredients in the shrimp it will be listed on the packaging. If none, it is just shrimp.3
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It never occurred to me that the OP wouldn't be able to ascertain if there are "other" ingredients in her shrimp package.
And it doesn't surprise me that we can argue even about this.1 -
HarlemNY17 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »Because it's a Processed food
See, that's where you went wrong, OP, you should have stuck your face directly in a rock pool, caught them with your teeth and eaten them alive and wriggling. No pesky confusing packaging that way.
Actually you should do you're research on why processed foods are high in calories and sodium . They don't just take shrimp throw them in the bag and put them in freezers.
Added sodium is not going to add calories.
I'm not sure where you live, but here frozen prawns (shrimp) are just prawns placed in a bag and then frozen, no sneaky calorific ingredients added.
ETA: Are you talking about crumbed/battered shrimp, this will obviously bump up the calories...2 -
Oh really, and what else is done to frozen shrimp?HarlemNY17 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »Because it's a Processed food
See, that's where you went wrong, OP, you should have stuck your face directly in a rock pool, caught them with your teeth and eaten them alive and wriggling. No pesky confusing packaging that way.
Actually you should do you're research on why processed foods are high in calories and sodium . They don't just take shrimp throw them in the bag and put them in freezers.4 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »If there are any added ingredients in the shrimp it will be listed on the packaging. If none, it is just shrimp.
Yes, exactly.
Processed foods don't have mysterious non listed calorie-adding ingredients.3 -
cmriverside wrote: »It never occurred to me that the OP wouldn't be able to ascertain if there are "other" ingredients in her shrimp package.
And it doesn't surprise me that we can argue even about this.
If this is aimed at me, I've seen weirder, but I wouldn't assume it was the case, I'd just ask to make sure (if OP is still around, of course). Anyway, I think I identified the particular brand with 140 cal for 4 oz and it has no calorie-adding extra ingredients.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »It never occurred to me that the OP wouldn't be able to ascertain if there are "other" ingredients in her shrimp package.
And it doesn't surprise me that we can argue even about this.
If this is aimed at me, I've seen weirder, but I wouldn't assume it was the case, I'd just ask to make sure (if OP is still around, of course). Anyway, I think I identified the particular brand with 140 cal for 4 oz and it has no calorie-adding extra ingredients.
Why would you think it was aimed at you? I was following @CattOfTheGarage and her statement.
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Even some nice person's question about which calorie total to choose draws the ire of clean eaters
I honestly don't know how we all survive to adulthood, poisoning ourselves with dirty dirty frozen fish so recklessly.
Shrimp is often caught and flash frozen. You then have to thaw, peel, and de-vein them. So I guess they are dirty, until you clean them!6 -
I bought a bag of frozen jumbo shrimp at Walmart. The bag says 6 shrimp= 4 ounces = 140 calories.
When I look on the MFP database that is waaay more than what any other resource says for shrimp/oz.
How do you know what is correct? Do you just assume that what is on the package you purchased is correct? Or the USDA?
A lot of times when I run into this, the difference is pretty small, but for shrimp...it is a huge difference.
Go with the calories on the package.
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MommaGem2017 wrote: »I bought a bag of frozen jumbo shrimp at Walmart. The bag says 6 shrimp= 4 ounces = 140 calories.
When I look on the MFP database that is waaay more than what any other resource says for shrimp/oz.
How do you know what is correct? Do you just assume that what is on the package you purchased is correct? Or the USDA?
A lot of times when I run into this, the difference is pretty small, but for shrimp...it is a huge difference.
First, go with the package info. After the shrimp thaw, weigh 6 of them and see if they weigh 4 oz. Then eat that many after it's cooked.
Also - Were your shrimp raw or cooked? (Like shrimp cocktail ready?)
The raw weight of food tends to be less than the same weight of cooked food. So if your shrimp were raw, then 4 oz. of cooked shrimp were likely to be higher than 4 oz. of cooked shrimp. Along with including usda in your search you should also look for an indicator of raw or cooked.
Are you sure it isn't the opposite of what you wrote? 9 ounces of fish is about 7 ounces after it it's cooked, I think due to the loss of liquid. And a 7 ounce of chicken beat is usually a little less than 6 ounces after I cook it.2 -
Are you sure it isn't the opposite of what you wrote? 9 ounces of fish is about 7 ounces after it it's cooked, I think due to the loss of liquid. And a 7 ounce of chicken beat is usually a little less than 6 ounces after I cook it.
Yep, meat cooks down and gets smaller so, if we had 4 oz of raw shrimp =140cal, and it cooked down to say 3 oz (for ease of math) - that 3 oz of cooked shrimp would still be 140 cals. So... 4 oz of cooked shrimp would be more like 175 calories.
4oz raw shrimp = 140cal
4oz cooked shrimp = 175cal1 -
cmriverside wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »It never occurred to me that the OP wouldn't be able to ascertain if there are "other" ingredients in her shrimp package.
And it doesn't surprise me that we can argue even about this.
If this is aimed at me, I've seen weirder, but I wouldn't assume it was the case, I'd just ask to make sure (if OP is still around, of course). Anyway, I think I identified the particular brand with 140 cal for 4 oz and it has no calorie-adding extra ingredients.
Why would you think it was aimed at you? I was following @CattOfTheGarage and her statement.
Heh, never mind. Because I said: "Whether OP's have added ingredients we do not know, but if they do not there is no basis to claim the processing increased their calories or added sodium." Just thought maybe you were responding to me suggesting the possibility. Sometimes I get overly anxious about being misread, I guess! ;-)0 -
Oh really, and what else is done to frozen shrimp?
Most prawns sold around here are brined in a solution of sodium triphosphate or similar.
Officially this protects the product from damage during freezing and storage.
My personal belief is that it also nicely plumps up the product both tenderising it and appreciably increasing the weight and appearance of "plumpness".
Incidentally such treatment should reduce calories per gram, not increase them, as the brine should be calorie free.
While it does not happen often, I HAVE seen packaging that had caloric information erroneously copied from a different product.1 -
I always go with the info on the packet.
I always make my own entry too so I know everything is listed correctly to what it says on the packet.
ALWAYS WEIGH! even if a packet says a serving is 6 shrimp, those 6 shrimp are not always gonna weigh the same and little things like that can knock your count way off without you even noticing.
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HarlemNY17 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »Because it's a Processed food
See, that's where you went wrong, OP, you should have stuck your face directly in a rock pool, caught them with your teeth and eaten them alive and wriggling. No pesky confusing packaging that way.
Actually you should do you're research on why processed foods are high in calories and sodium . They don't just take shrimp throw them in the bag and put them in freezers.
With plain raw shrimp they usually give them a water glaze before freezing them. Which doesn't add or remove anything nutritional. I mean I suppose it technically counts as processing but then so does cooking food.0 -
scarlett_k wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »Because it's a Processed food
See, that's where you went wrong, OP, you should have stuck your face directly in a rock pool, caught them with your teeth and eaten them alive and wriggling. No pesky confusing packaging that way.
Actually you should do you're research on why processed foods are high in calories and sodium . They don't just take shrimp throw them in the bag and put them in freezers mr know it all
With plain raw shrimp they usually give them a water glaze before freezing them. Which doesn't add or remove anything nutritional. I mean I suppose it technically counts as processing but then so does cooking food.
I actually went and looked some frozen prawns (UK) and the unpeeled are glazed with a bit of salt and water. Unpeeled ar unadulterated, I guess the shells protect them from freezer damage. So if it's really that big a deal, eat the unpeeled that have literally just been thrown in a bag and frozen.HarlemNY17 wrote: »WatchJoshLift wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »Because it's a Processed food
See, that's where you went wrong, OP, you should have stuck your face directly in a rock pool, caught them with your teeth and eaten them alive and wriggling. No pesky confusing packaging that way.
Actually you should do you're research on why processed foods are high in calories and sodium . They don't just take shrimp throw them in the bag and put them in freezers mr know it all
Added sodium is not going to add calories.
I'm not sure where you live, but here frozen prawns (shrimp) are just prawns placed in a bag and then frozen, no sneaky calorific ingredients added.
ETA: Are you talking about crumbed/battered shrimp, this will obviously bump up the calories...
He eats that Harlem Shrimp. All kinds of added calories in it.
Actually I don't eat shrimp . Not to mention I only eat fresh fish . Not the kind u eat either
I hate to break it to you but a lot of "fresh" fish is frozen as it's caught on the boats and thawed for selling as fresh otherwise lots of it wouldn't be fit for consumption by the time it got to the mainland.5 -
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Please remember to stay on topic and answer the OPs questions. If you would like to discuss the types of fish you eat please start your own thread.
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The calories/weight will vary with:
- raw or cooked (due to loss of water weight)
- how much water they may have been frozen with
- Do they include the whole shrimp (tails, etc), that are sometimes removed before packaging
- shrimp size (relative make-up of calorie-containing and non-calorie-containing components of each shrimp would presumably vary a bit with size).0
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