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Professional Help?
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You said "we lay people are not equipped to deal with such possible disorders"
And also "I can't imagine seeking professional help".
Don't try to make it sound otherwise.msjennigirl wrote: »I interpreted the OP as being sad that people struggle and are unable to seek help. I didn't interpret a sense of superiority, rather empathy.
Thank you msjennigirl. That's exactly what I meant, but sadly rather clumsily expressed myself. Many, many folks do not have health insurance or the co-pays for treatment are outrageous. Some health insurances do not cover counseling, but I think more are doing so. I had occasion to see a counselor several years ago. My session was $75.00 for 30 minutes. My own father was hospitalized for 3 months following a nervous breakdown, so I understand the value and necessity for mental health treatment. I apologize for my clumsy post. I did not mean to offend.1 -
If you are able to sort things out without help, good for you. But sometimes it is not so simple. And that's why we have professional people.
A good analogy is I can sew. Pretty adequately. But I wouldn't try to sew a silk bridal gown. Someone else could but I have limits.
Same with emotional or mental stuff.
And mental health may not actually be accessible for many US citizens. Many do not have insurance or adequate leave time. Or transportation if one does not have a car. Or a provider... Wait time for intake can be weeks or months if openings available at all. The barriers are real.5 -
For those who are interested in seeking professional help (for any reason, not just ED's) and are afraid that the cost will be prohibitive, the National Alliance on Mental Illness is a great clearinghouse for information. There are local chapters all over the US also, where you can get information about low cost or free programs in your area, how to navigate your insurance, available financial assistance, etc.
Here is the website for the National organization https://www.nami.org/14 -
kenyonhaff wrote: »If you are able to sort things out without help, good for you. But sometimes it is not so simple. And that's why we have professional people.
A good analogy is I can sew. Pretty adequately. But I wouldn't try to sew a silk bridal gown. Someone else could but I have limits.
Same with emotional or mental stuff.
And mental health may not actually be accessible for many US citizens. Many do not have insurance or adequate leave time. Or transportation if one does not have a car. Or a provider... Wait time for intake can be weeks or months if openings available at all. The barriers are real.
The Americans with Disabilities Act (aka ADA) requires employers to allow leave for any health related issue, including mental health. If you have a therapists appointment, they need to let you go. Whether or not you get paid for that time is up to the employer so yes, some cannot afford to lose 2 hours of pay.
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Full disclosure, my Ph.D. is in Psychology.
Absolutely, some folks can sort out their issues on their own. But for some, the problem lies so deep and the food-related behaviors are just a symptom of a much more serious condition that's it's not going to be something they can fix by themselves. If you wouldn't try and remove a bullet from your body, why would you think you can fix the human brain on your own?
There shouldn't be any shame seeking mental health support any more than there is going to a medical doctor to treat a physical ailment.
But people do see matters of the mind differently, unfortunately.
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I wonder if there is a correlation between higher education and acceptance of mental health treatment.3
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kshama2001 wrote: »I wonder if there is a correlation between higher education and acceptance of mental health treatment.
I don't know. Many campus counseling centers, though they meet or exceed accreditation staffing levels have weeks-long wait lists.
For the students, they pay fees which enables them access with no parental knowledge or involvement. That could be part of it as I see cultural stigmas for some students in seeking help no matter how serious the issue. For some, cutting is a more acceptable release than seeing a licensed counselor.
There are lots of issues and behaviors which must have been presenting for years, which remain undiagnosed until college. This is also true of learning disabilities. And schizophrenia often emerges during the early 20's. I have seen a number of students not seek help until they're forced to (involuntary commitment for suicide ideation or attempt). And even then the families can cause greater damage.
Last year, a student was hearing voices telling him to kill himself. When he didn't, they started telling him to kill his mom, too. He tried to throw himself off a bridge on campus, but two other students were nearby and restrained him until campus police arrived. He was hospitalized. His parents picked him up and brought him immediately back to campus, with mom telling him not to miss class. They did not follow the doctors' recommendations about withdrawing him from school of filling his prescriptions. They didn't believe in seeing doctor's for head issues and said he just needed to focus more on school. I have lots of anecdotes like that, unfortunately. Both the parents in this case had advanced degrees.1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »I wonder if there is a correlation between higher education and acceptance of mental health treatment.
I don't know. Many campus counseling centers, though they meet or exceed accreditation staffing levels have weeks-long wait lists.
For the students, they pay fees which enables them access with no parental knowledge or involvement. That could be part of it as I see cultural stigmas for some students in seeking help no matter how serious the issue. For some, cutting is a more acceptable release than seeing a licensed counselor.
There are lots of issues and behaviors which must have been presenting for years, which remain undiagnosed until college. This is also true of learning disabilities. And schizophrenia often emerges during the early 20's. I have seen a number of students not seek help until they're forced to (involuntary commitment for suicide ideation or attempt). And even then the families can cause greater damage.
Last year, a student was hearing voices telling him to kill himself. When he didn't, they started telling him to kill his mom, too. He tried to throw himself off a bridge on campus, but two other students were nearby and restrained him until campus police arrived. He was hospitalized. His parents picked him up and brought him immediately back to campus, with mom telling him not to miss class. They did not follow the doctors' recommendations about withdrawing him from school of filling his prescriptions. They didn't believe in seeing doctor's for head issues and said he just needed to focus more on school. I have lots of anecdotes like that, unfortunately. Both the parents in this case had advanced degrees.
That poor boy.1
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