Carbs

Lillymoo01

solomon091 wrote: »

While I agree it's the calories and not the carbs that are crucial. Carbs, especially white carbs are the primary reason for obesity in Aemrica. Thats why Paloe based diet plans actually gained so much popularity. I recommend you read the book Practical Paleo by Diane Sanfilippo. You'll get some perspective on the carbs and why medical docs are now recommending to lower carb intake. My advice is to use an "elimination diet" and slowly bring carbs into your diet, to find what actually works for you.

Here is what Scientific America has to say regarding eating wrong kind of carbs -'The hormone hypothesis suggests that the only way to prevent this downward spiral from happening, and to reverse it when it does, is to avoid the sugars and carbohydrates that work to raise insulin levels.'

Here is the link https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-makes-you-fat-too-many-calories-or-the-wrong-carbohydrates/

Eating too much and exercising too little is the primary reason for obesity problems around the world. Our portion sizes are larger and our activity levels are less than those of our ancestors.

GlassAngyl

I agree.. carbs aren't what make you fat. I'm low carb/ keto. You need to ask your Dr why he said 20g (keto level) carbs. Are you diabetic? Hypothyroid? Or was he trying to hint to youva way to satiate your hunger. I went keto because I was RAVINOUS on just regular cico.. Once I cut carbs, upped fat, and ..well protein was still the same for me..20% on my macros, I felt less hungry. More than that.. I felt satiated! Is it hard? Omg.. try saying no to Mac and cheese.. cheese cake.. a PROPER hamburger!! Yes.. it's hard AF! But I can't deny the amazing results. If you can get these result from eating these things, go for it. But for me, it's like a miracle not feeling starved and binging all the time.

For those that said keto didn't work for them because you watched your macros but not your calorie intake.. the heck is wrong with you people! It's ALWAYS calories in vs out! You aim for higher fats and lower carbs.. you don't ignore the calorie count! It was hard for me at first, but I'm getting the hang of it. I may not hit my macros perfectly, but who cares?? I'm not hungry! I'm not eating more just to hit my fats if I'm not hungry! SMH!

Nony_Mouse

solomon091 wrote: »

While I agree it's the calories and not the carbs that are crucial. Carbs, especially white carbs are the primary reason for obesity in Aemrica. Thats why Paloe based diet plans actually gained so much popularity. I recommend you read the book Practical Paleo by Diane Sanfilippo. You'll get some perspective on the carbs and why medical docs are now recommending to lower carb intake. My advice is to use an "elimination diet" and slowly bring carbs into your diet, to find what actually works for you.

Here is what Scientific America has to say regarding eating wrong kind of carbs -'The hormone hypothesis suggests that the only way to prevent this downward spiral from happening, and to reverse it when it does, is to avoid the sugars and carbohydrates that work to raise insulin levels.'

Here is the link https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-makes-you-fat-too-many-calories-or-the-wrong-carbohydrates/

There is no such thing as good and bad carbs, and the paleo diet, in terms of bearing any resemblance to how Palaeolithic peoples ate, is a crock.

jgnatca

True Paleo would require long periods of fasting and a parasite or two.

lucerorojo

It is interesting that Americans never used to be so fat and ate bread, potatoes and all kinds of carbs everyday, but portions were so much smaller. There were no fast foods in my parents' day and less snacks. Processed foods tend to be calorie dense and easy to overeat because they aren't filling, and portions can be huge because they go down quickly.

I am still shocked since I started using MFP about 3 months ago, the amount of calories in cookies, muffins and other baked goods. I used to eat them a lot, and now it's so much easier to pass up that 500 calorie muffin or danish--if it's going to be more than 1/3 my calories for the day, it's just not worth it because I'll be hungry later--I would rather eat some whole food instead.

solomon091

cwolfman13 wrote: »

solomon091 wrote: »

While I agree it's the calories and not the carbs that are crucial. Carbs, especially white carbs are the primary reason for obesity in Aemrica. Thats why Paloe based diet plans actually gained so much popularity. I recommend you read the book Practical Paleo by Diane Sanfilippo. You'll get some perspective on the carbs and why medical docs are now recommending to lower carb intake. My advice is to use an "elimination diet" and slowly bring carbs into your diet, to find what actually works for you.

Here is what Scientific America has to say regarding eating wrong kind of carbs -'The hormone hypothesis suggests that the only way to prevent this downward spiral from happening, and to reverse it when it does, is to avoid the sugars and carbohydrates that work to raise insulin levels.'

Here is the link https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-makes-you-fat-too-many-calories-or-the-wrong-carbohydrates/

Do some research on Blue Zones...

The obesity epidemic is a resulting of stuffing the face full of all kinds of stuff and not moving...

The SAD is a crap diet that is too high in pretty much everything...that's what's driving obesity...not eating a potato or rice or whatever...

I did some research on the Blue Zones diet, and so far I'm really impressed. Thanks for pointing in this direction. Here are good explanations-
https://draxe.com/blue-zones/
http://www.skinnyandsassy.com/blue-zones-solution-dan-buettner-review/

I can see how the concept of cico fits perfectly , especially when you make "movement" and lifestyle a big part of it. Its like keeping things simple eliminates the need of complex diets. That's quite a game changer.

I have many friends who believe carbs counting is the way to go. I might be wrong but I think both counting carbs and counting calories have their place in weight loss. It is basically just two different paths to ultimately get to the same goal of weight reduction. However, the important distinction is that, depending on whether you're counting carbs or calories, you will be eating a vastly different selection of foods under each approach. If you like eating fatty foods while still losing weight, go with a lc diet like Atkins (while still counting calories), but if you would rather eat foods that restrict fat and are low calorie in nature, stick to only counting calories.

lucerorojo

I've done low carbs diets before. They worked for me. But then inevitably I'd travel, or I'd be in a situation where I couldn't control the food and end up eating carbs. Then I'd gain it all back and no longer want to not eat the carbs. I'm finding so far (it's only been 3 months for me--and 20 lbs. loss) that it is easier for me to count calories and lose weight than to monitor the carbs. I like pasta, rice, bread and potatoes. If I know I can have it as long as it fits in the calorie intake it is so much easier to stick to (and I imagine will be to maintain) than cutting out the majority of carbs (other than veggies and berries). Knowing the amount of calories I need is much more helpful. When on low carb diets I had no idea how many calories I was eating. I think I was lucky in some instances to fall into a deficit.