October 2017 Biking Cycling Bicycling Challenge!

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  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
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    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    The one thing I did not change was the dérailleur - Campagnolo write you need a longer(?) dérailleur cage with the compact chain rings, but I read in lots of bike forums that that wasn't true, the short one would work as well. I'm no longer convinced that that is entirely true..
    That all depends on chain wrap. To calculate chain wrap capacity determine the difference between your largest and smallest chain ring. Then determine the difference between your largest and smallest cog. Add the differences and you have chain wrap capacity. Derailleur cage length is optimized to a maximum chain wrap capacity. One can go a few tooth beyond but with difficulties.
    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    but when I want to move the chain up to the large chainring, I have to shift "four clicks up, wait for the chain to start moving, two clicks back down". I've gotten really good at it over the course of the summer, but maybe once per 50km I click back too late, and then the chain falls off.
    Sounds like the limit is set wide as compromise for the chain wrap, mixed vintage, or the front derailleur's height is off. Any chance you are using mixed vintage, e.g. 6/7/8 front with 9/10/11 rear? If so the front cage width is too wide and you'll throw the chain. Assuming the second LBS is competent, my guess is mixed vintage.
  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
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    kcjchang wrote: »
    [Sounds like the limit is set wide as compromise for the chain wrap, mixed vintage, or the front derailleur's height is off. Any chance you are using mixed vintage, e.g. 6/7/8 front with 9/10/11 rear? If so the front cage width is too wide and you'll throw the chain. Assuming the second LBS is competent, my guess is mixed vintage.
    It's mixed groups, but all 10-speed components - front and rear dérailleur are Campa Record, but it's become close to impossible to find 10-speed record parts :/ . So the cassette is Veloce (13-26), and the chainrings (34/50) are one Veloce, one Centaur - but all of these are 10-speed.
    The cage has a capacity of 30. (26-13) + (50-34) = 29, so my setup *should* be okay.

    I'm always watching eBay for well-conserved 10-speed Record parts, but no luck so far. I've still got my old 53/39 crank set, I might have to change back to that if the constant chain trouble annoys me too much at one point.
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
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    Check the derailleur placement and limit screw setting, http://thebiketube.com/tutorials/how-adjust-campagnolo-front-derailleurs. Properly adjusted, it should not throw the chain. Also find a better mechanic.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,811 Member
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    Started the cycling week with a 50 miler to break through the 4,000 mile barrier for the year and then a few smaller rides.
    Starting to wonder whether to aim for 5,000 for the year which would be a first for me. Weather is turning though and I can't tolerate cold very well.


    MTD
    21 Hours 327 miles 94 Personal Records 19 Activities

    YTD
    249 Hours 4,071 miles 625 Personal Records 220 Activities

  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 24,885 Member
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    Review ... (Distances include cycling + walking)
    March 15: 489.8 km (304.3 miles) = 38 hours 4 min
    April: 491.94 km (305.6 miles) = 43 hours 6 min
    May: 361.81 km (224.8 miles) = 35 hours 50 min
    June: 569.53 km (353.9 miles) = 41 hours 53 min
    July 2015: 230.7 km (143.35 miles) = 32 hours 45 min
    Aug: 211.3 km (131.3 miles) = 28 hours 8 min
    Sep 2015: 306.7 km (190.6 miles) = 35 hour 2 min
    Oct: 441.82 km (274.5 miles) = 47 hours 43 min
    Nov: 660.21 km (410.23 miles) = 60 hours 41 min
    Dec: 499.91 km (282.8 miles) = 54 hours 56 min
    Jan: 864.79 km (537.35 miles) = 65 hours 36 min
    Feb: 470.53 km (292.4 miles) = 40 hours 39 min
    March 16: 917.73 km (570.2 miles) = 66 hours 13 min
    April: 417.83 km (259.6 miles) = 40 hours 23 min
    May: 267.09 km (165.9 miles) = 36 hours 10 min
    June: 552.1 km (343 miles) = 54 hours 48 min
    July 2016: 709 km (440.5 miles) = 60 hours 41 minutes
    Aug: 775.9 km (482.1 miles) = 54 hours 52 minutes
    Sep 2016: 371.3 km (230.7 miles) = 32 hours 20 min
    Oct: 649 km (403.3 miles) = 49 hours 46 min
    Nov: 403 km (250.4 miles) = 52 hours 16 min
    Dec: 511.05 km (317.55 miles) = 52 hours 2 min
    Jan: 741.9 km (461.0 miles) = 70 hours 3 min
    Feb: 600.5 km (373.1 miles) = 57 hours 30 min
    Mar: 1113.2 km (691.7 miles) = 78 hours 25 min
    Apr: 1181.9 km (734.4 miles) = 76 hours 45 min
    May: 426.6 km (265.1 miles) = 39 hours 21 min
    June: 575.7 km (357.7 miles) = 41 hours 53 min
    July: 714 km (443.7 miles) = 52 hours 23 min
    August: 475.8 km (295.6 miles) = 38 hours 41 min
    September: 455.5 km (283 miles) = 41 hours 25 min

    September went better than anticipated ... hoping for a good October too! Roughly the same distance/hours as in previous years ... or more. :)

    Oct 2015: 441.82 km (274.5 miles) = 47 hours 43 min
    Oct 2016: 649 km (403.3 miles) = 49 hours 46 min

    Oct 1 - 51.40 km cycling (162.32 min)
    Oct 2 - 8.2 km walking (100 min) + 11.5 km cycling (40 min)
    Oct 3 - 5.8 km walking (70 min) + 23.6 km cycling (70 min)
    Oct 4 - 3 km walking (35 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min) + 15 min weight lifting
    Oct 5 - 6.5 km walking (80 min) + 14 flights of stairs (11 min)
    Oct 6 - 7.9 km walking (95 min) + 14 flights of stairs (11 min)
    Oct 7 - 26.9 km cycling (80 min)
    Oct 8 - 34.2 km cycling (105 min)
    Oct 9 - 5.5 km walking (65 min) + 18.5 km cycling indoors (40 min) ... spinning class
    Oct 10 - 5.4 km walking (65 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)
    Oct 11 - 9.5 km walking (115) + 22 flights of stairs (17 min)
    Oct 12 - 4.6 km walking (55 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)
    Oct 13 - 3.5 km walking (40 min) + 16 flights of stairs (12 min)
    Oct 14 - 35.8 km cycling (110 min)
    Oct 15 - 81.2 km cycling (255 min)
    Oct 16 - 10.8 km walking (135 min)
    Oct 17 - 4.2 km walking (50 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)
    Oct 18 - 7.5 km walking (90 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)
    Oct 19 - 5.8 km walking (70 min) + 16 flights of stairs (12 min)
    Oct 20 - 4 km walking (50 min)

    Oct 21 - 164 km cycling (515 min) ... our October Century!! :)

    Oct 22 - 2 km walking (25 min)
    Oct 23 - 5 km walking (60 min) + 10 flights of stairs (8 min)


    2017 Monthly October
    Walking Distance (km): 99.2
    Walking Time (min): 1240.0
    Cycling Distance (km): 447.1
    Cycling Time (min): 1393.5
    Flights of Stairs Climbed Number: 192.0
    Flights of Stairs Climbed Time (min): 153.6
    Other Distance: 0.0
    Other Time: 15.0 (weightlifting)

    Totals
    Total Distance (km): 546.3
    Total Distance (miles): 339.5
    Total Time (min): 2802.1
    Total Time (hr): 46:42:04
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
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    MTD
    Duration: 18:57:27
    Time Moving: 18:46:09
    Distance (miles): 291.9
    Activities: 11
    Elevation Gain (feet): 18,623

    YTD
    Duration: 211:50:46
    Time Moving: 205:49:03
    Distance (miles): 3253.2
    Activities: 153
    Elevation Gain (feet): 175,519

    Took 9 months but finally got my Tron bike on Friday.
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  • mtb000mtb
    mtb000mtb Posts: 69 Member
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    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    Unfortunately, I'm 100% sure that some adjustment to the limit screws is necessary. But I'm afraid of messing it up completely instead of making things better

    ...

    when I want to move the chain up to the large chainring, I have to shift "four clicks up, wait for the chain to start moving, two clicks back down". I've gotten really good at it over the course of the summer, but maybe once per 50km I click back too late, and then the chain falls off.
    @_nikkiwolf_, it's probably worth checking your H limit screw and index adjustment. There are lots of resources on youtube, or I'm a fan of the parktool's guides https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/front-derailleur-adjustment . It's disappointing that two LBS failed to fix this. Even if your partial upgrade was a contributing factor they should have been able to tell things were not quite right and advise you what needed to be done to rectify.

    I always worry about tackling new maintenance jobs. What if I stuff it up and make things worse? What if I start and then realise I haven't got the right parts or tools? But when I actually bite the bullet and do it I generally find it's not as bad as I imagined and the gradual accumulation of knowledge and makes me better able to handle the next issue.
  • mtb000mtb
    mtb000mtb Posts: 69 Member
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    sijomial wrote: »
    Started the cycling week with a 50 miler to break through the 4,000 mile barrier for the year and then a few smaller rides.
    Starting to wonder whether to aim for 5,000 for the year which would be a first for me.
    Nice work. With two months still to go a tougher target sounds like a no-brainer. If local weather makes riding unattractive where you are maybe you need compromise and split the difference. How does 4,500 feel? Would that also be a first or do you need to go bigger to break new ground?

  • mtb000mtb
    mtb000mtb Posts: 69 Member
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    Sitting here enjoying a glass of wine to wind down at the end of the work week and realise I've been slack about posting updates. I'm probably going to finish the month a whisker short of my MTB target but ahead on total km's.

    MTD:
    Activities - 31
    Hours - 35
    Distance - 609 km
    MTB distance - 97.6 km

    YTD:
    Activities - 128
    Hours - 137
    Distance - 2,017 km
  • mtb000mtb
    mtb000mtb Posts: 69 Member
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    24k mountain bike today.

    MTD:
    Activities - 32
    Hours - 37
    Distance - 633 km
    MTB distance - 121.6 km
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
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    MTD
    Duration: 29:37:40
    Time Moving: 29:18:22
    Distance (miles): 496.9
    Activities: 17
    Elevation Gain (feet): 22,289

    YTD
    Duration: 222:30:59
    Time Moving: 216:21:16
    Distance (miles): 3458.2
    Activities: 159
    Elevation Gain (feet): 179,184
  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
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    Thanks everyone for the advice regarding the derailleur. I don't know why, it's the one bike-repair-thing I really struggle with, even after watching and reading lots of tutorials. But one of these days I will try my luck again!

    At least during my ride on Saturday the chain didn't fall off. It's already getting quite cold, but at least it was still sunny. And enough wind to make it interesting :smiley:

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    Tue, 03/10/2017 - 10.7km commute
    Fri, 06/10/2017 - 15.6km commute
    Sat, 07/10/2017 - 40.8km Saturday ride
    Wed, 11/10/2017 9.1km commute
    Thu, 12/10/2017 - 11.3km commute
    Wed, 18/10/2017 - 12.1km commute
    Thu, 19/10/2017 - 26.8km commute & ride to climbing gym
    Sat, 21/10/2017 - 2.9km post office
    Mon, 23/10/2017 - 8.1km commute
    Sat, 28/10/2017 - 42.3 km Saturday ride
    Mon, 30/10/2017 - 10.6km commute
    190.4km for October
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 24,885 Member
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    Review ... (Distances include cycling + walking)
    March 15: 489.8 km (304.3 miles) = 38 hours 4 min
    April: 491.94 km (305.6 miles) = 43 hours 6 min
    May: 361.81 km (224.8 miles) = 35 hours 50 min
    June: 569.53 km (353.9 miles) = 41 hours 53 min
    July 2015: 230.7 km (143.35 miles) = 32 hours 45 min
    Aug: 211.3 km (131.3 miles) = 28 hours 8 min
    Sep 2015: 306.7 km (190.6 miles) = 35 hour 2 min
    Oct: 441.82 km (274.5 miles) = 47 hours 43 min
    Nov: 660.21 km (410.23 miles) = 60 hours 41 min
    Dec: 499.91 km (282.8 miles) = 54 hours 56 min
    Jan: 864.79 km (537.35 miles) = 65 hours 36 min
    Feb: 470.53 km (292.4 miles) = 40 hours 39 min
    March 16: 917.73 km (570.2 miles) = 66 hours 13 min
    April: 417.83 km (259.6 miles) = 40 hours 23 min
    May: 267.09 km (165.9 miles) = 36 hours 10 min
    June: 552.1 km (343 miles) = 54 hours 48 min
    July 2016: 709 km (440.5 miles) = 60 hours 41 minutes
    Aug: 775.9 km (482.1 miles) = 54 hours 52 minutes
    Sep 2016: 371.3 km (230.7 miles) = 32 hours 20 min
    Oct: 649 km (403.3 miles) = 49 hours 46 min
    Nov: 403 km (250.4 miles) = 52 hours 16 min
    Dec: 511.05 km (317.55 miles) = 52 hours 2 min
    Jan: 741.9 km (461.0 miles) = 70 hours 3 min
    Feb: 600.5 km (373.1 miles) = 57 hours 30 min
    Mar: 1113.2 km (691.7 miles) = 78 hours 25 min
    Apr: 1181.9 km (734.4 miles) = 76 hours 45 min
    May: 426.6 km (265.1 miles) = 39 hours 21 min
    June: 575.7 km (357.7 miles) = 41 hours 53 min
    July: 714 km (443.7 miles) = 52 hours 23 min
    August: 475.8 km (295.6 miles) = 38 hours 41 min
    September: 455.5 km (283 miles) = 41 hours 25 min

    September went better than anticipated ... hoping for a good October too! Roughly the same distance/hours as in previous years ... or more. :)

    Oct 2015: 441.82 km (274.5 miles) = 47 hours 43 min
    Oct 2016: 649 km (403.3 miles) = 49 hours 46 min

    Oct 1 - 51.40 km cycling (162.32 min)
    Oct 2 - 8.2 km walking (100 min) + 11.5 km cycling (40 min)
    Oct 3 - 5.8 km walking (70 min) + 23.6 km cycling (70 min)
    Oct 4 - 3 km walking (35 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min) + 15 min weight lifting
    Oct 5 - 6.5 km walking (80 min) + 14 flights of stairs (11 min)
    Oct 6 - 7.9 km walking (95 min) + 14 flights of stairs (11 min)
    Oct 7 - 26.9 km cycling (80 min)
    Oct 8 - 34.2 km cycling (105 min)
    Oct 9 - 5.5 km walking (65 min) + 18.5 km cycling indoors (40 min) ... spinning class
    Oct 10 - 5.4 km walking (65 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)
    Oct 11 - 9.5 km walking (115) + 22 flights of stairs (17 min)
    Oct 12 - 4.6 km walking (55 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)
    Oct 13 - 3.5 km walking (40 min) + 16 flights of stairs (12 min)
    Oct 14 - 35.8 km cycling (110 min)
    Oct 15 - 81.2 km cycling (255 min)
    Oct 16 - 10.8 km walking (135 min)
    Oct 17 - 4.2 km walking (50 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)
    Oct 18 - 7.5 km walking (90 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)
    Oct 19 - 5.8 km walking (70 min) + 16 flights of stairs (12 min)
    Oct 20 - 4 km walking (50 min)
    Oct 21 - 164 km cycling (515 min) ... our October Century!! :)
    Oct 22 - 2 km walking (25 min)
    Oct 23 - 5 km walking (60 min) + 10 flights of stairs (8 min)

    Oct 24 - 5.2 km walking (65 min) + 10 flights of stairs (8 min)

    Oct 25 - 3.6 km walking (45 min) + 7 flights of stairs (5 min)

    Oct 26 - 6 km walking (75 min)

    Oct 27 - 26.5 km cycling (83 min)

    Oct 28 - 24.9 km cycling (78 min)

    Oct 29 - 20.5 km cycling (64 min)

    Oct 30 - 4.8 km walking (60 min) + 20 flights of stairs (16 min)

    Oct 31- 9.3 km walking (116 min) + 24 flights of stairs (19 min)


    2017 Monthly October
    Walking Distance (km): 128.1
    Walking Time (min): 1601.3
    Cycling Distance (km): 519.0
    Cycling Time (min): 1620.5
    Flights of Stairs Climbed Number: 253.0
    Flights of Stairs Climbed Time (min): 202.4
    Other Distance: 0.0
    Other Time: 15.0

    Totals
    Total Distance (km): 647.1
    Total Distance (miles): 402.1
    Total Time (min): 3439.2
    Total Time (hr): 57:19:11

    All done! And much better than my previous Octobers! :)
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,811 Member
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    Nice brisk 33 mile ride today to finish off the month - a bit nippy for my fingers and toes (my Raynaud's kicks in at really quite mild temperatures...) but that's a great excuse for a warming post ride coffee with Bourbon. :drinker:

    That's a new yearly mileage record for me as I'm a bit of a late starter to cycling seriously.


    MTD
    30 Hours 465 miles 146 Personal Records 23 Activities

    YTD
    258 Hours 4,209 miles 677 Personal Records 224 Activities

  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,811 Member
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    mtb000mtb wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    Started the cycling week with a 50 miler to break through the 4,000 mile barrier for the year and then a few smaller rides.
    Starting to wonder whether to aim for 5,000 for the year which would be a first for me.
    Nice work. With two months still to go a tougher target sounds like a no-brainer. If local weather makes riding unattractive where you are maybe you need compromise and split the difference. How does 4,500 feel? Would that also be a first or do you need to go bigger to break new ground?

    @mtb000mtb
    5,000 does sound very attainable but I think I will just focus on enjoying my riding for the last two months of the year when I can - wet & cold both spoil my enjoyment and I know if I set a goal I just have to hit it which would condemn me to either riding outdoors when I really don't want to or the mind numbing tedium of lots of indoor miles.
    Funny thing with numbers is that 5,000 feels significant but 4,500 doesn't! :neutral:

    Where I live (Southern England) winters are really quite benign but my stupid hands and feet switch off even at really quite mild temperatures (10c or 50f degrees).

  • 35dollars
    35dollars Posts: 830 Member
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    End of month check-in:
    462 miles this month, just beating target of 448; ytd 3709 heading towards hopefully comfortably beating target of 4000
  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
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    sijomial wrote: »
    5,000 does sound very attainable but I think I will just focus on enjoying my riding for the last two months of the year when I can - wet & cold both spoil my enjoyment and I know if I set a goal I just have to hit it which would condemn me to either riding outdoors when I really don't want to or the mind numbing tedium of lots of indoor miles.
    Funny thing with numbers is that 5,000 feels significant but 4,500 doesn't! :neutral:

    Where I live (Southern England) winters are really quite benign but my stupid hands and feet switch off even at really quite mild temperatures (10c or 50f degrees).
    @sijomial Congratulations on the 4000 miles!
    If 5000mi is a little much, but 4500mi doesn't sound significant - how about 7500km? That's 4660miles, so in between those two numbers. And 7500 sounds good too, right?
    I tried a few different gloves last winter, because my hands freeze easily. These ones are the best I found, they work really well: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00XC860II/
    For the feet I have those: https://www.amazon.co.uk/BBB-Overshoes-HeavyDuty-OSS-black/dp/B00FG27CGW - and if I want to feel really warm, I pull some sandwich bags over my socks as an extra layer. Sounds really stupid, but it's great wind protection. Maybe I should look for some specialised cycling socks that do the same, but I have a feeling they will be slightly more expansive than the 50-bags-pack from the supermarket :D
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 24,885 Member
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    November?

    It's November 2 ... not that I've done any cycling in the last couple days.
  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
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    @Machka9 Here you go:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10612573/november-2017-biking-cycling-bicycling-challenge/

    I wasn't sure if it's worth creating another thread, since there are so few posts already and the weather will get even colder for most people. But I guess it can't hurt to give it another shot :smile:
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 24,885 Member
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    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    @Machka9 Here you go:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10612573/november-2017-biking-cycling-bicycling-challenge/

    I wasn't sure if it's worth creating another thread, since there are so few posts already and the weather will get even colder for most people. But I guess it can't hurt to give it another shot :smile:

    The weather here is getting warmer ... summer! :)

    And there's always indoor cycling.

    This thread has been going for 2 years now, I hope it does continue.

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