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Trex5009
Trex5009 Posts: 171 Member
edited December 2024 in Goal: Maintaining Weight
Why is it that every time I add an excerise.. my step calories go back to 0? My
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  • Trex5009
    Trex5009 Posts: 171 Member
    Anybody lol
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    edited November 2017
    Try rewording your question or explaining what you mean a bit more. I don't know what you mean that your step calories go back to 0.
    Also, sometimes it takes more than 2 1/2 hours for someone with the answer to see your question and respond. Just sayin'.
  • Trex5009
    Trex5009 Posts: 171 Member
    lorrpb wrote: »
    Try rewording your question or explaining what you mean a bit more. I don't know what you mean that your step calories go back to 0.
    Also, sometimes it takes more than 2 1/2 hours for someone with the answer to see your question and respond. Just sayin'.

    Ok... you know how your phone tracks your steps? Well MFP calculates how many calories you burn based on number of steps. Well sometimes I go into the app and I have like 50 calories burned or something just from my steps. However when I add my own excersie of cardio or something.. my calories burned from my steps reset to 0. Idk why I'm having trouble explaining this.. hope you got what I mean though
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    If your steps are being counted by an Apple Watch, there does seem to be a bug with the Apple Watch/my fitness pal synchronization. Every time my watch ads an exercise, any steps I have completed for the day go back to zero calories (or go to negative numbers if I have negative adjustments enabled).
  • Trex5009
    Trex5009 Posts: 171 Member
    ryenday wrote: »
    If your steps are being counted by an Apple Watch, there does seem to be a bug with the Apple Watch/my fitness pal synchronization. Every time my watch ads an exercise, any steps I have completed for the day go back to zero calories (or go to negative numbers if I have negative adjustments enabled).

    I don't have an Apple Watch though.. they're all counted from my iphone
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    heybales wrote: »
    Because steps are considered a normal part of daily activity with no exercise.

    At some point MFP decides your amount of steps has gone over your MFP selected activity level - so more active than what it assumed.

    So you get more calories for that. Say 50.

    You then go and add a workout that of course is not account for ahead of time. Say 400.

    Well that time for those calories probably took away some of the reason, if not all the reason, for the extra steps - according to time.

    MFP figures then the extra steps isn't because of increased daily activity that occurred - but rather that workout.
    So the 400 goes in for that time, the 50 is replaced.

    Can you explain further cause it makes no sense to me.
    Scenario 1:
    So, I’m set to sedentary and say I decide to walk to the gym. That is a 1.5 mile walk. So I see an MFP adjustment steps: 50 cals (makes sense to me, I usually don’t walk 1.5 miles.) Then I swim for a mile. I should get about 250 calories for that. I do, but what the heck did that have to do with my walk? Because after the swim MFP will say steps: 0 cals and swim 250 cals. I don’t understand why MFP exercise calories are not 300 - 50 step adjustment and 250 swim.

    Scenario 2:
    Still set to sedentary and want to walk to gym but this time I tell my watch the walk to the gym is a workout. I get to gym and see 50 calorie step adjustment on MFP. Then I save my WALKING workout and then MFP reads steps:0 - workout walking 52 cals. This makes sense to me. If it counted step adjustments AND walking workouts it would be double dipping. So now when I swim I get a MFP calorie total I understand 302 (250 swim +52 walk).

    Personally I don’t care, I’m trying to lose weight and the ‘hidden’ step calories are fine with me. But with this type of bizarre synchronization I’m not likely to use MFP for maintenance because it doesn’t make any sense to me and I couldn’t judge my calories correctly. (And since I go from very sedentary days to very active days, I pretty much have to set MFP to sedentary and count movement and exercise separately. ).
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,332 Member
    edited November 2017
    All caloric expenditure calculations finalise at **MIDNIGHT**

    Before midnight you are dealing with interim, changing, numbers that are influenced by the non identical base assumptions that are made by MFP and the various trackers.

    And they change because instead of using a label such as "catch all number that is trying to reconcile what your tracker thinks you've burned and what MFP is expecting you to burn to midnight tonight", MFP uses labels such as "exercise calories", and "steps" to accomplish the same task.

    ... assuming that integration is not broken... which it often is :disappointed:
  • tinkerbellang83
    tinkerbellang83 Posts: 9,147 Member
    Trex5009 wrote: »
    lorrpb wrote: »
    Try rewording your question or explaining what you mean a bit more. I don't know what you mean that your step calories go back to 0.
    Also, sometimes it takes more than 2 1/2 hours for someone with the answer to see your question and respond. Just sayin'.

    Ok... you know how your phone tracks your steps? Well MFP calculates how many calories you burn based on number of steps. Well sometimes I go into the app and I have like 50 calories burned or something just from my steps. However when I add my own excersie of cardio or something.. my calories burned from my steps reset to 0. Idk why I'm having trouble explaining this.. hope you got what I mean though

    If the exercise is logged at the same time as the steps, the exercise calories override the step calories to avoid double logging.
  • jesspen91
    jesspen91 Posts: 1,383 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    All caloric expenditure calculations finalise at **MIDNIGHT**

    Before midnight you are dealing with interim, changing, numbers that are influenced by the non identical base assumptions that are made by MFP and the various trackers.

    And they change because instead of using a label such as "catch all number that is trying to reconcile what your tracker thinks you've burned and what MFP is expecting you to burn to midnight tonight", MFP uses labels such as "exercise calories", and "steps" to accomplish the same task.

    ... assuming that integration is not broken... which it often is :disappointed:

    Yep, I often find wonky numbers and then it all magically gets sorted out at midnight so I don't worry too much. It is a bit annoying though having to do the calculations myself.
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    Thanks all who tried to explain, but either I’m just too thick to get it or something is wrong in the sync.

    Yesterday: Apple Watch. MFP set to sedentary. Apple Activity App ( which gets its data from my watch) says 15237 steps. MFP profile page agreed (MFP iPhone app). Exercise section however at end of day reads:

    steps adjustment 11,207 :: -63
    Swim 325
    Walking (.5 hour) 102

    MFP gave me 364 calories.

    It is always the same.

    If I have steps but no exercise a portion of the steps makes it from home page to exercise diary. A small adjustment to calories is recorded.

    If I have ANY exercise during the day, at any time - MFP zeros out (or makes negative if negative adjustments allowed) the step calories. I have days (MFP set to sedentary) of 15000 ish steps with a 15 minute bike ride and get 45 calories for the bike ride and 0 for steps.

    As I said, this is fine while I aim to lose weight. But I don’t understand it at all. And when I get to maintenance I’ll have to find a different app because I get no step activity adjustments if I record a bike ride or swim so more often than not MFP is going to just be wrong in its calculations (sometimes wildly wrong - like on HIIT days where I record 10 minutes of cardio so I get 40 or so calories and that workout negates any and all steps.)
  • ladyhusker39
    ladyhusker39 Posts: 1,406 Member
    Are you set at 1200 calories?
    Do you have negative adjustments turned on?

    Even with your step calories added in you could still be below 1200 and the system won't let you go below that. Basically, you haven't exercised enough to earn more than 1200 calories.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    Trex5009 wrote: »
    lorrpb wrote: »
    Try rewording your question or explaining what you mean a bit more. I don't know what you mean that your step calories go back to 0.
    Also, sometimes it takes more than 2 1/2 hours for someone with the answer to see your question and respond. Just sayin'.

    Ok... you know how your phone tracks your steps? Well MFP calculates how many calories you burn based on number of steps. Well sometimes I go into the app and I have like 50 calories burned or something just from my steps. However when I add my own excersie of cardio or something.. my calories burned from my steps reset to 0. Idk why I'm having trouble explaining this.. hope you got what I mean though

    If the exercise is logged at the same time as the steps, the exercise calories override the step calories to avoid double logging.

    This may very well be the reason. I use a fitbit. Fitbit sends over step adjustments throughout the day. If I take a walk that burns 150 calories, and I try to log it as exercise, those calories will be subtracted from the fitbit adjustment so that I don't eat back my exercise calories twice (that walk had already been adjusted for by fitbit). There is a way to log extra exercise activity so that this doesn't happen (for instance, weight training that doesn't involve steps), but I don't do this so I don't know how.
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    edited November 2017
    Are you set at 1200 calories?
    Do you have negative adjustments turned on?

    Even with your step calories added in you could still be below 1200 and the system won't let you go below that. Basically, you haven't exercised enough to earn more than 1200 calories.

    I’m set at 1500 calories. I don’t think it has anything to do with it. Step adjustments work fine on my rest days ( days when I don’t workout).

    I walk throughout the day. MFP and Apple Watch sync pretty often and i can see my step count increase in MFP and the adjustment grows higher the more steps I take. Then I exercise. The exercise workout gets synced to MFP and recorded and the step adjustment changes to zero ( or to a negative number if negative adjustment is enabled).

    I’m set to sedentary on MFP. The syncing of a workout cancels steps for that whole day no matter if I workout at 9am or 9pm. No matter how many steps, syncing a workout cancels out step adjustments. I do not need a walking workout for this to happen. My swim workouts negate all the days step adjustments.

    It has been this way since I got my Apple Watch in May and makes no sense to me so I assume it is a bug.

  • need2belean
    need2belean Posts: 358 Member
    edited November 2017
    Ok. I'm going to try and explain this to the best of my ability.
    Let's start by asking what you're daily expenditure is set to. We'll assume it's set to sedentary.
    For a sedentary person, let's say you will burn just by being alive 1500 calories a day (which is 62 calories/hour). That 1500 calories is just you living your life if you were to not do Any workouts except for your normal daily activity.
    Now, let's assume that you walked to the gym. That was a mile walk that took you 15 minutes at a slow pace and that burned 50 calories according to your watch. Then you did an elliptical workout that burn 200 calories in 45 minutes. So, you assume that you've burned 250 total calories in that hour. BUT, you have to remember that your body burns calories every hour already just by being alive (remember what I said above?) and your watch doesn't take that into effect. BUT, Myfitnesspal and Fitbit (for example) do take that into affect. So, when you synced your watch, the FITBIT workout says 50calorie walk and 200calorie elliptical but if you have the negative adjustments turned on (it's a checkbox under settings and you SHOULD have it on), then MFP/FITBIT take that 62 calorie/hour burn that you would burn just by being alive and subtract it from that 250 calorie burn so it may say something like -62 calories which would bring your total to 188 total calories for that hour.

    Seriously though, it takes a second to really understand. Give it sometime and don't eat back all your exercise calories right off the bat until you start seeing the pattern. Give it a couple weeks. AND what @PAV8888 said above, if you sync your watch the next day, you will see that MFP finalizes the energy expenditure at midnight when you're usually sleeping.
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    edited November 2017
    Ok. I'm going to try and explain this to the best of my ability.
    Let's start by asking what you're daily expenditure is set to. We'll assume it's set to sedentary.
    For a sedentary person, let's say you will burn just by being alive 1500 calories a day (which is 62 calories/hour). That 1500 calories is just you living your life if you were to not do Any workouts except for your normal daily activity.
    Now, let's assume that you walked to the gym. That was a mile walk that took you 15 minutes at a slow pace and that burned 50 calories according to your watch. Then you did an elliptical workout that burn 200 calories in 45 minutes. So, you assume that you've burned 250 total calories in that hour. BUT, you have to remember that your body burns calories every hour already just by being alive (remember what I said above?) and your watch doesn't take that into effect. BUT, Myfitnesspal and Fitbit (for example) do take that into affect. So, when you synced your watch, the FITBIT workout says 50calorie walk and 200calorie elliptical but if you have the negative adjustments turned on (it's a checkbox under settings and you SHOULD have it on), then MFP/FITBIT take that 62 calorie/hour burn that you would burn just by being alive and subtract it from that 250 calorie burn so it may say something like -62 calories which would bring your total to 188 total calories for that hour.

    Seriously though, it takes a second to really understand. Give it sometime and don't eat back all your exercise calories right off the bat until you start seeing the pattern. Give it a couple weeks. AND what @PAV8888 said above, if you sync your watch the next day, you will see that MFP finalizes the energy expenditure at midnight when you're usually sleeping.

    Yeah, I don’t get it and yeah MFP energy Expenditure at midnight looks exactly the same as MFP energy Expenditure at 9pm (except for maybe a couple hundred steps I may have taken around the house are now listed).

    I do have MFP at sedentary. I do have negative adjustments enabled. Any workout at all, no matter type or how small or time of day (indoor cycle for 10 minutes and 29 cals for instance) negates the step adjustment - no matter how big. So on Saturday 14000 steps is -95 with a 28 cal cycle workout recorded. But Sunday is 9000 steps for +76 because no workout is recorded.

    Thanks for trying, but no that does not make sense to me :(
  • ritzvin
    ritzvin Posts: 2,860 Member
    Trex5009 wrote: »
    lorrpb wrote: »
    Try rewording your question or explaining what you mean a bit more. I don't know what you mean that your step calories go back to 0.
    Also, sometimes it takes more than 2 1/2 hours for someone with the answer to see your question and respond. Just sayin'.

    Ok... you know how your phone tracks your steps? Well MFP calculates how many calories you burn based on number of steps. Well sometimes I go into the app and I have like 50 calories burned or something just from my steps. However when I add my own excersie of cardio or something.. my calories burned from my steps reset to 0. Idk why I'm having trouble explaining this.. hope you got what I mean though

    your fitness tracker is estimating your total calorie expenditure from what it sees, and MFP is adjusted to match the total. If the tracker didn't see/measure what you are manually adding it won't be in that total (and will thus be negated in the adjustment).
  • ritzvin
    ritzvin Posts: 2,860 Member
    Also- I'm not familiar with Apple/Fitbit, but the step&calories portion of the garmin server seems to only take step info when calculating the total calorie expenditure.. so a run or walk (measured as an activity) should even out fine (both sides of Garmin saw those steps), but stuff like cycling (that the step tracker portion of the site doesn't see) gets negated.
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    ritzvin wrote: »
    Trex5009 wrote: »
    lorrpb wrote: »
    Try rewording your question or explaining what you mean a bit more. I don't know what you mean that your step calories go back to 0.
    Also, sometimes it takes more than 2 1/2 hours for someone with the answer to see your question and respond. Just sayin'.

    Ok... you know how your phone tracks your steps? Well MFP calculates how many calories you burn based on number of steps. Well sometimes I go into the app and I have like 50 calories burned or something just from my steps. However when I add my own excersie of cardio or something.. my calories burned from my steps reset to 0. Idk why I'm having trouble explaining this.. hope you got what I mean though

    your fitness tracker is estimating your total calorie expenditure from what it sees, and MFP is adjusted to match the total. If the tracker didn't see/measure what you are manually adding it won't be in that total (and will thus be negated in the adjustment).

    I don’t manually add anything. The watch syncs steps AND workouts. If the Watch doesn’t see it, I’m not recording it (I.e. household cleaning) in MFP.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    ryenday wrote: »
    Are you set at 1200 calories?
    Do you have negative adjustments turned on?

    Even with your step calories added in you could still be below 1200 and the system won't let you go below that. Basically, you haven't exercised enough to earn more than 1200 calories.

    I’m set at 1500 calories. I don’t think it has anything to do with it. Step adjustments work fine on my rest days ( days when I don’t workout).

    I walk throughout the day. MFP and Apple Watch sync pretty often and i can see my step count increase in MFP and the adjustment grows higher the more steps I take. Then I exercise. The exercise workout gets synced to MFP and recorded and the step adjustment changes to zero ( or to a negative number if negative adjustment is enabled).

    I’m set to sedentary on MFP. The syncing of a workout cancels steps for that whole day no matter if I workout at 9am or 9pm. No matter how many steps, syncing a workout cancels out step adjustments. I do not need a walking workout for this to happen. My swim workouts negate all the days step adjustments.

    It has been this way since I got my Apple Watch in May and makes no sense to me so I assume it is a bug.

    Are you logging your exercise? Do you log them in MFP, or with Apple Watch?

    This may be a bug. I know that there are on and off issues with fitbit syncing to MFP, although I haven't had any since August. It could possibly be the way you are logging your exercise. I don't know anything about Apple Watch. I know with fitbit you have to log your exercise (any kind of exercise) a specific way so that it adjusts correctly and gives you proper credit.
  • ritzvin
    ritzvin Posts: 2,860 Member
    ryenday wrote: »
    ritzvin wrote: »
    Trex5009 wrote: »
    lorrpb wrote: »
    Try rewording your question or explaining what you mean a bit more. I don't know what you mean that your step calories go back to 0.
    Also, sometimes it takes more than 2 1/2 hours for someone with the answer to see your question and respond. Just sayin'.

    Ok... you know how your phone tracks your steps? Well MFP calculates how many calories you burn based on number of steps. Well sometimes I go into the app and I have like 50 calories burned or something just from my steps. However when I add my own excersie of cardio or something.. my calories burned from my steps reset to 0. Idk why I'm having trouble explaining this.. hope you got what I mean though

    your fitness tracker is estimating your total calorie expenditure from what it sees, and MFP is adjusted to match the total. If the tracker didn't see/measure what you are manually adding it won't be in that total (and will thus be negated in the adjustment).

    I don’t manually add anything. The watch syncs steps AND workouts. If the Watch doesn’t see it, I’m not recording it (I.e. household cleaning) in MFP.

    That post was meant for the OP who added in their own exercise. Yours might be doing the same thing as Garmin if it is non-step-based but still watch-measured activities getting negated. (Negative adjustments can get pretty interesting when riding a century).
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    edited November 2017
    Dnarules wrote: »
    ryenday wrote: »
    Are you set at 1200 calories?
    Do you have negative adjustments turned on?

    Even with your step calories added in you could still be below 1200 and the system won't let you go below that. Basically, you haven't exercised enough to earn more than 1200 calories.

    I’m set at 1500 calories. I don’t think it has anything to do with it. Step adjustments work fine on my rest days ( days when I don’t workout).

    I walk throughout the day. MFP and Apple Watch sync pretty often and i can see my step count increase in MFP and the adjustment grows higher the more steps I take. Then I exercise. The exercise workout gets synced to MFP and recorded and the step adjustment changes to zero ( or to a negative number if negative adjustment is enabled).

    I’m set to sedentary on MFP. The syncing of a workout cancels steps for that whole day no matter if I workout at 9am or 9pm. No matter how many steps, syncing a workout cancels out step adjustments. I do not need a walking workout for this to happen. My swim workouts negate all the days step adjustments.

    It has been this way since I got my Apple Watch in May and makes no sense to me so I assume it is a bug.

    Are you logging your exercise? Do you log them in MFP, or with Apple Watch?

    This may be a bug. I know that there are on and off issues with fitbit syncing to MFP, although I haven't had any since August. It could possibly be the way you are logging your exercise. I don't know anything about Apple Watch. I know with fitbit you have to log your exercise (any kind of exercise) a specific way so that it adjusts correctly and gives you proper credit.

    I assume it is a bug, and yeah I don’t log any of my exercises or steps - this is the Apple Watch sync of workouts and steps counted. It has been this way since May when I got the watch. (All I do is tell Apple Watch when I start or stop a workout)

    Thanks, as I said, while I am still in weight loss mode this is like a bonus. But I’ve started to look ahead to the ever closer maintenance (yay!) and MFP won’t work for me then because the difference can easily be 15% of my daily calories on my walking everywhere all day weekend days (a not unusual but not regular occurrence).
  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,342 Member
    edited November 2017
    If it bothers you just un-sync the two apps and log your exercise manually.
    At the end of the day it doesn't really matter how many cals you are given or not given for your exercise, if you are losing weight if that's what you want to do, that is the main thing.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    edited November 2017
    ryenday wrote: »
    Thanks all who tried to explain, but either I’m just too thick to get it or something is wrong in the sync.

    Yesterday: Apple Watch. MFP set to sedentary. Apple Activity App ( which gets its data from my watch) says 15237 steps. MFP profile page agreed (MFP iPhone app). Exercise section however at end of day reads:

    steps adjustment 11,207 :: -63
    Swim 325
    Walking (.5 hour) 102

    MFP gave me 364 calories.

    It is always the same.

    If I have steps but no exercise a portion of the steps makes it from home page to exercise diary. A small adjustment to calories is recorded.

    If I have ANY exercise during the day, at any time - MFP zeros out (or makes negative if negative adjustments allowed) the step calories. I have days (MFP set to sedentary) of 15000 ish steps with a 15 minute bike ride and get 45 calories for the bike ride and 0 for steps.

    As I said, this is fine while I aim to lose weight. But I don’t understand it at all. And when I get to maintenance I’ll have to find a different app because I get no step activity adjustments if I record a bike ride or swim so more often than not MFP is going to just be wrong in its calculations (sometimes wildly wrong - like on HIIT days where I record 10 minutes of cardio so I get 40 or so calories and that workout negates any and all steps.)

    It's exactly the math that I gave.

    You need to click on the Exercise Adjustment "i" for more info as to what is the basis for the math - it's all spelled out.

    Simple as that.

    And just so your terminology is straight, because it's confusing right now.

    You are getting steps synced just fine, and nothing happens to them.

    You are strictly talking about the calorie adjustment, that's all.
    It's allowing MFP to correct itself with it's original estimate and exercise it knows about (because logged on here), and the calorie burn from the outside source.

    3rd Party sync of calorie burn minus MFP estimate of daily burn minus MFP logged exercise equals adjustment.

    So:

    Outside source 2500 - 2000 MFP - 600 logged exercise = negative 100 adjustment.

    Base eating goal 1500 + 600 exercise - 100 adjustment = 2000 new eating goal.

    500 cal deficit. 2500-2000.

  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    edited November 2017
    heybales wrote: »
    ryenday wrote: »
    Thanks all who tried to explain, but either I’m just too thick to get it or something is wrong in the sync.

    Yesterday: Apple Watch. MFP set to sedentary. Apple Activity App ( which gets its data from my watch) says 15237 steps. MFP profile page agreed (MFP iPhone app). Exercise section however at end of day reads:

    steps adjustment 11,207 :: -63
    Swim 325
    Walking (.5 hour) 102

    MFP gave me 364 calories.

    It is always the same.

    If I have steps but no exercise a portion of the steps makes it from home page to exercise diary. A small adjustment to calories is recorded.

    If I have ANY exercise during the day, at any time - MFP zeros out (or makes negative if negative adjustments allowed) the step calories. I have days (MFP set to sedentary) of 15000 ish steps with a 15 minute bike ride and get 45 calories for the bike ride and 0 for steps.

    As I said, this is fine while I aim to lose weight. But I don’t understand it at all. And when I get to maintenance I’ll have to find a different app because I get no step activity adjustments if I record a bike ride or swim so more often than not MFP is going to just be wrong in its calculations (sometimes wildly wrong - like on HIIT days where I record 10 minutes of cardio so I get 40 or so calories and that workout negates any and all steps.)

    It's exactly the math that I gave.

    You need to click on the Exercise Adjustment "i" for more info as to what is the basis for the math - it's all spelled out.

    Simple as that.

    And just so your terminology is straight, because it's confusing right now.

    You are getting steps synced just fine, and nothing happens to them.

    You are strictly talking about the calorie adjustment, that's all.
    It's allowing MFP to correct itself with it's original estimate and exercise it knows about (because logged on here), and the calorie burn from the outside source.

    3rd Party sync of calorie burn minus MFP estimate of daily burn minus MFP logged exercise equals adjustment.

    So:

    Outside source 2500 - 2000 MFP - 600 logged exercise = negative 100.

    Base eating goal 1500 + 600 exercise - 100 adjustment = 2000 new eating goal.

    500 cal deficit. 2500-2000.

    Then I guess I’m just dumb.

    I don’t understand how 14,000 steps and a 10 minute workout mean that MFP allots a total of 1483 cal. But the day that I walk 9000 steps and do not exercise at all MFP allots calories at 1615.

    So I’m dumb. Or there is a bug. But thank you for trying to explain. I appreciate the time it took for you to try, even if I just don’t understand.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Click on the Adjustment for more details and share all the figures on that extra screen.

    It can be explained - but not about to try using Steps when that is not in the math.

    Just so you are aware too - not all steps are equal for calorie burn. So not truly valid to compare even 2 days of equal steps wondering why they are different.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,332 Member
    The explanation of what should be happening has been given and it is unfortunately more complex than it ideally should be because as mentioned mfp and various trackers start with different base assumptions, pigeonhole their various intermental values differently, and then try to reconcile the whole mess with a single number (the exercise adjustment which by that point is essentially mislabeled; it should be something like relative tdee equalisation adjustment)

    However we all seem to be ignoring that currently the Apple watch, Apple health, and mfp are experiencing integration issues based on a number of recent posts...

    So they're just may not exist a rational solution :disappointed:
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    edited November 2017
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    This might help...I use a fitbit.

    The steps are irrelevant really...it's about what the tracker is saying you burned vs what MFP thinks you might burn...based on the data you entered.
  • ryenday
    ryenday Posts: 1,540 Member
    Question then: does this look reasonable for a MFP sedentary level then? (Yesterday). I hate to post photos bc they so big on non iPhones, but I don’t have access to a computer today way:

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    And. This is the ‘detail’
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