8,000 calories a day?
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deannalfisher wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »When I was training for an ironman triathlon (2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike, and 26.2 mile run) I was eating more than that.
8000 a day while training? i call shenanigans - i'm an ironman and even on race day (15hrs) - my calorie burn was 9000 - my longest training day was probably close to 6000 and i didn't eat that many
But you are a female and he is a male. My husband weighs twice as much as I do, so his calorie burns are about twice as much as mine when we exercise together.3 -
deannalfisher wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »When I was training for an ironman triathlon (2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike, and 26.2 mile run) I was eating more than that.
8000 a day while training? i call shenanigans - i'm an ironman and even on race day (15hrs) - my calorie burn was 9000 - my longest training day was probably close to 6000 and i didn't eat that many
My best time was 10:51 and in order to do that well I had to train a tremendous amount. 300+ miles per week on the bike, 50 miles running per week, and 15-20,000 yards swimming
Here’s what I looked like then.
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A 2.4 mile swim burns around 1500 calories, a 112 mile bike ride averaging 20mph burns at least 5000 calories, and a marathon burns around 2600 calories. That adds up to 9100 calories. Look it up.
My training days were pretty extensive, plus I had a physical, outdoor job.2 -
peckchris3267 wrote: »A 2.4 mile swim burns around 1500 calories, a 112 mile bike ride averaging 20mph burns at least 5000 calories, and a marathon burns around 2600 calories. That adds up to 9100 calories. Look it up.
But were you doing those distances during training? Even if the race distance itself adds up to burning 9,100 calories, typical training plans involve less than full race distances.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »A 2.4 mile swim burns around 1500 calories, a 112 mile bike ride averaging 20mph burns at least 5000 calories, and a marathon burns around 2600 calories. That adds up to 9100 calories. Look it up.
But were you doing those distances during training? Even if the race distance itself adds up to burning 9,100 calories, typical training plans involve less than full race distances.
My long ride was between 100-137 miles, average weekday ride was 60 miles. Weekly long run was a 25 miler, and swam on a masters swim team about 4,000 yards per workout.
Also did Wednesday evening time trials with a bike club and Thursday evening track workouts with the Irish American Track Club. That was before I moved to boulder Colorado to train in the Rockies with the pros
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Cyclists in a race will sometimes burn that many calories, but I'm sure the guy on Survivor is just trying to make himself look good.0
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When I first lost weight, I ate between 4-6k a day and lost 3-6lbs a week because of my body structure and caloric burns. It's certainly an exception and it's not that hard to do really.
Any chance to give me an example of what your food journal was? I eat 2000 calories a day and run 10k almost everyday to stay at 175 pounds. If I could do what you're doing and lose 3-6 pounds a week, that would be great for myself. What did you do to burn off 4-6000 calories a day to lose 3-6 pounds a week? You really have my curiosity.
Royal Marine Commando training caters at about 4000-5000 calories per day, over four meals. Generally lads will lose a bit during that, although more generally changes in body composition.
Field ration packs contain 4000 calories, with experience in Afghanistan and Iraq indicating that people on those for extended periods were also losing.2 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »When I first lost weight, I ate between 4-6k a day and lost 3-6lbs a week because of my body structure and caloric burns. It's certainly an exception and it's not that hard to do really.
Any chance to give me an example of what your food journal was? I eat 2000 calories a day and run 10k almost everyday to stay at 175 pounds. If I could do what you're doing and lose 3-6 pounds a week, that would be great for myself. What did you do to burn off 4-6000 calories a day to lose 3-6 pounds a week? You really have my curiosity.
Royal Marine Commando training caters at about 4000-5000 calories per day, over four meals. Generally lads will lose a bit during that, although more generally changes in body composition.
Field ration packs contain 4000 calories, with experience in Afghanistan and Iraq indicating that people on those for extended periods were also losing.
I believe the US ones are rated at 3500-4000 calories, but most people don't eat everything. Usually 2-3 a day depending on how many hot meals are provided... which means UP to 12000 calories a day. But that's on your feet for 8+ hours with a ruck and a weapon and body armor.0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »When I first lost weight, I ate between 4-6k a day and lost 3-6lbs a week because of my body structure and caloric burns. It's certainly an exception and it's not that hard to do really.
Any chance to give me an example of what your food journal was? I eat 2000 calories a day and run 10k almost everyday to stay at 175 pounds. If I could do what you're doing and lose 3-6 pounds a week, that would be great for myself. What did you do to burn off 4-6000 calories a day to lose 3-6 pounds a week? You really have my curiosity.
Royal Marine Commando training caters at about 4000-5000 calories per day, over four meals. Generally lads will lose a bit during that, although more generally changes in body composition.
Field ration packs contain 4000 calories, with experience in Afghanistan and Iraq indicating that people on those for extended periods were also losing.
I believe the US ones are rated at 3500-4000 calories, but most people don't eat everything. Usually 2-3 a day depending on how many hot meals are provided... which means UP to 12000 calories a day. But that's on your feet for 8+ hours with a ruck and a weapon and body armor.
Ours are a 24 hour pack, rather than multiple packs per day. Similarly, people don't eat everything.
Osprey and a patrol bergan mount up to a pretty significant weight, so patrols consume a huge amount of energy.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »deputy_randolph wrote: »I read once that Michael Phelps eats around 6000 calories/day when he is training. That's Michael Phelps though...
i thought he got up to 12,000?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/2563451/Michael-Phelps-the-extraordinary-12000-calorie-diet-that-fuels-greatest-ever-Olympian-Beijing-Olympics-2008.html
Before the Beijing Games, Phelps said he was chowing down on an insane 12,000 calories a day, or 4,000 calories per meal. (He later said this could have been a bit of an exaggeration, but he was still eating quite a lot.)
http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-phelps-diet-for-the-rio-olympics-2016-8
Just BS from Phelps.
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One Dunkin Donuts Chocolate Creme donut is 320 calories so just eat 25 of them everyday.
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I had a Friend who was 6' about 190-200# and 5% BF. When he traveled on business oversees he had to take two suitcases. One with clothes, one with food. He learned that after losing 10 pounds in a two week Japan trip.
He used to joke that he wounded out so hard because he loved to eat. And he could eat.
Totally ripped. His wife had to tailer his pants for him. But to fit around his quads and glutes, the cut in the waist to fit.
He defined the athletic cut suit.0 -
peckchris3267 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »When I was training for an ironman triathlon (2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike, and 26.2 mile run) I was eating more than that.
8000 a day while training? i call shenanigans - i'm an ironman and even on race day (15hrs) - my calorie burn was 9000 - my longest training day was probably close to 6000 and i didn't eat that many
My best time was 10:51 and in order to do that well I had to train a tremendous amount. 300+ miles per week on the bike, 50 miles running per week, and 15-20,000 yards swimming
Here’s what I looked like then.
i doubt any of the pros eat that - look at someone like Lionel Sanders, Andy Potts, Jan Frodeno etc - its their job to only train0 -
This is 100% possible and honestly, how is 6000 calories a day even a lot to you guys? I am a 5ft tall woman who weights around 115-120. I eat around 5000-8000 calories everyday. I'm not that active, have an office job and only workout once a day. No cardio either. I'm confused on WHY 6000 would be considered a lot of calories??!!22
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katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »This is 100% possible and honestly, how is 6000 calories a day even a lot to you guys? I am a 5ft tall woman who weights around 115-120. I eat around 5000-8000 calories everyday. I'm not that active, have an office job and only workout once a day. No cardio either. I'm confused on WHY 6000 would be considered a lot of calories??!!
I believe other numbers in this thread (the Survivor guy, military rations, Ironman, etc.) but call BS on this. Interesting that it's your first post as well.6 -
katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »This is 100% possible and honestly, how is 6000 calories a day even a lot to you guys? I am a 5ft tall woman who weights around 115-120. I eat around 5000-8000 calories everyday. I'm not that active, have an office job and only workout once a day. No cardio either. I'm confused on WHY 6000 would be considered a lot of calories??!!
open your diary please....
I'm active and I maintain on 2600 a day0 -
katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »This is 100% possible and honestly, how is 6000 calories a day even a lot to you guys? I am a 5ft tall woman who weights around 115-120. I eat around 5000-8000 calories everyday. I'm not that active, have an office job and only workout once a day. No cardio either. I'm confused on WHY 6000 would be considered a lot of calories??!!
This doesn't seem plausible to me. I am about 115 pounds, work an office job, do cardio once a day, and maintain on about 2,000-2,200 calories. Either something is off with how you measure your intake or something is off in how you're determining your activity.0 -
It is. I weighed everything for months just to make sure. I also have a nutritionist. I am actually starving when I have only 6000-7000. I honestly don't understand it myself but only because other people (to me) eat way too little. For me, 2,200 calories would be what I eat by 9am. This will not fill me at all. Then at around 10am I eat another meal... it's usually something such as a 10oz piece of meat, another whole potato and a whole avocado. I'll still be really hungry after that and generally have some crackers, 2-3 bananas and some almond butter. Then lunch is around 12-1pm and that's usually a huge piece of fatty meat with veggies and carbs. My carbs are stuff like potatoes, fruit, etc. I also do a lot of fat just to make sure I stay satiated. So my fat grams will be around 300g per day.
How would a person be full with 2200 calories? Isn't that just one meal's worth??13 -
deannalfisher wrote: »highly likely full of crap - but he could easily take in 4000cal a day - many people who work with the same nutrition folks that I do (eat to perform) avg 3-4000 and are either weight stable or losing slightly (people of all shapes, sizes, gender and age)
Maybe the majority of his calories come from the crap he's full of!2 -
katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »It is. I weighed everything for months just to make sure. I also have a nutritionist. I am actually starving when I have only 6000-7000. I honestly don't understand it myself but only because other people (to me) eat way too little. For me, 2,200 calories would be what I eat by 9am. This will not fill me at all. Then at around 10am I eat another meal... it's usually something such as a 10oz piece of meat, another whole potato and a whole avocado. I'll still be really hungry after that and generally have some crackers, 2-3 bananas and some almond butter. Then lunch is around 12-1pm and that's usually a huge piece of fatty meat with veggies and carbs. My carbs are stuff like potatoes, fruit, etc. I also do a lot of fat just to make sure I stay satiated. So my fat grams will be around 300g per day.
How would a person be full with 2200 calories? Isn't that just one meal's worth??
I am so curious what you would eat to get 2200 calories by 9 am. I'm not even being snarky, I just wonder what that would be....2 -
Imagine getting to eat 8k a day though.....mmmm...Id be eating literally non stop to try and hit it lol is like 5x what i eat now and im already eating pretty constant lol. Bring on the peanutbutter0
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janejellyroll wrote: »katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »This is 100% possible and honestly, how is 6000 calories a day even a lot to you guys? I am a 5ft tall woman who weights around 115-120. I eat around 5000-8000 calories everyday. I'm not that active, have an office job and only workout once a day. No cardio either. I'm confused on WHY 6000 would be considered a lot of calories??!!
This doesn't seem plausible to me. I am about 115 pounds, work an office job, do cardio once a day, and maintain on about 2,000-2,200 calories. Either something is off with how you measure your intake or something is off in how you're determining your activity.
Unless she bikes 10+ miles each way to work as her commute, there's absolutely no way.
Or her "once a day cardio" is a 3 hour 15 mile run.1 -
Yeah, not possible. I once caught a fish the size of a whale. You can't disprove that. Unless he's doing Tour de France or something, that's a highly exaggerated claim.4
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stanmann571 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »This is 100% possible and honestly, how is 6000 calories a day even a lot to you guys? I am a 5ft tall woman who weights around 115-120. I eat around 5000-8000 calories everyday. I'm not that active, have an office job and only workout once a day. No cardio either. I'm confused on WHY 6000 would be considered a lot of calories??!!
This doesn't seem plausible to me. I am about 115 pounds, work an office job, do cardio once a day, and maintain on about 2,000-2,200 calories. Either something is off with how you measure your intake or something is off in how you're determining your activity.
Unless she bikes 10+ miles each way to work as her commute, there's absolutely no way.
Or her "once a day cardio" is a 3 hour 15 mile run.
ya no theres no way im 24, 5 ft 3 125 pounds im a mover as a job i walk around 12 miles average a day up and down steep stairs and carrying hundreds of pounds worth of stuff pretty consistently through about 15k of my 25kish steps a day. And my maintenance is around 2300-2500. I work 10-14 hour days.
Theres simply no way someone that much smaller thn me burns that much more in little time doing *kitten* all
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stanmann571 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »This is 100% possible and honestly, how is 6000 calories a day even a lot to you guys? I am a 5ft tall woman who weights around 115-120. I eat around 5000-8000 calories everyday. I'm not that active, have an office job and only workout once a day. No cardio either. I'm confused on WHY 6000 would be considered a lot of calories??!!
This doesn't seem plausible to me. I am about 115 pounds, work an office job, do cardio once a day, and maintain on about 2,000-2,200 calories. Either something is off with how you measure your intake or something is off in how you're determining your activity.
Unless she bikes 10+ miles each way to work as her commute, there's absolutely no way.
Or her "once a day cardio" is a 3 hour 15 mile run.
She wrote above that she didn't even *do* cardio so I am struggling to accept that she is burning 8,000 calories a day on the regular with her office job.1 -
katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »It is. I weighed everything for months just to make sure. I also have a nutritionist. I am actually starving when I have only 6000-7000. I honestly don't understand it myself but only because other people (to me) eat way too little. For me, 2,200 calories would be what I eat by 9am. This will not fill me at all. Then at around 10am I eat another meal... it's usually something such as a 10oz piece of meat, another whole potato and a whole avocado. I'll still be really hungry after that and generally have some crackers, 2-3 bananas and some almond butter. Then lunch is around 12-1pm and that's usually a huge piece of fatty meat with veggies and carbs. My carbs are stuff like potatoes, fruit, etc. I also do a lot of fat just to make sure I stay satiated. So my fat grams will be around 300g per day.
How would a person be full with 2200 calories? Isn't that just one meal's worth??
I am so curious what you would eat to get 2200 calories by 9 am. I'm not even being snarky, I just wonder what that would be....
Lets see.... 3 egg omelet with bacon and cheese and onions, 1 Liter Grapefruit Juice, .5 liter coffee flavored sugar syrup. 4 slices toast with butter and cheese. Should get you pretty close. And I haven't even had my hash browns, large, scattered, smothered, and covered. with a side of gravy0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »It is. I weighed everything for months just to make sure. I also have a nutritionist. I am actually starving when I have only 6000-7000. I honestly don't understand it myself but only because other people (to me) eat way too little. For me, 2,200 calories would be what I eat by 9am. This will not fill me at all. Then at around 10am I eat another meal... it's usually something such as a 10oz piece of meat, another whole potato and a whole avocado. I'll still be really hungry after that and generally have some crackers, 2-3 bananas and some almond butter. Then lunch is around 12-1pm and that's usually a huge piece of fatty meat with veggies and carbs. My carbs are stuff like potatoes, fruit, etc. I also do a lot of fat just to make sure I stay satiated. So my fat grams will be around 300g per day.
How would a person be full with 2200 calories? Isn't that just one meal's worth??
I am so curious what you would eat to get 2200 calories by 9 am. I'm not even being snarky, I just wonder what that would be....
Lets see.... 3 egg omelet with bacon and cheese and onions, 1 Liter Grapefruit Juice, .5 liter coffee flavored sugar syrup. 4 slices toast with butter and cheese. Should get you pretty close. And I haven't even had my hash browns, large, scattered, smothered, and covered. with a side of gravy
Well arent you a special snowflake. Side note mmmm hashbrowns3 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »It is. I weighed everything for months just to make sure. I also have a nutritionist. I am actually starving when I have only 6000-7000. I honestly don't understand it myself but only because other people (to me) eat way too little. For me, 2,200 calories would be what I eat by 9am. This will not fill me at all. Then at around 10am I eat another meal... it's usually something such as a 10oz piece of meat, another whole potato and a whole avocado. I'll still be really hungry after that and generally have some crackers, 2-3 bananas and some almond butter. Then lunch is around 12-1pm and that's usually a huge piece of fatty meat with veggies and carbs. My carbs are stuff like potatoes, fruit, etc. I also do a lot of fat just to make sure I stay satiated. So my fat grams will be around 300g per day.
How would a person be full with 2200 calories? Isn't that just one meal's worth??
I am so curious what you would eat to get 2200 calories by 9 am. I'm not even being snarky, I just wonder what that would be....
Lets see.... 3 egg omelet with bacon and cheese and onions, 1 Liter Grapefruit Juice, .5 liter coffee flavored sugar syrup. 4 slices toast with butter and cheese. Should get you pretty close. And I haven't even had my hash browns, large, scattered, smothered, and covered. with a side of gravy
Well arent you a special snowflake. Side note mmmm hashbrownsstanmann571 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »deputy_randolph wrote: »I read once that Michael Phelps eats around 6000 calories/day when he is training. That's Michael Phelps though...
i thought he got up to 12,000?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/2563451/Michael-Phelps-the-extraordinary-12000-calorie-diet-that-fuels-greatest-ever-Olympian-Beijing-Olympics-2008.html
If your training load supports and requires that level of feeding, then it's No big deal, unless you're not getting what you need.
If your training load doesn't support that level of feeding then you'll blow up.
Between 18-22, I got between 4-6k calories a day, and maintained at around 150. I also walked 10-12 miles a day for transportation and worked 6-10 hours a night on my feet at a fast food restaurant.
When I transitioned to a more sedentary lifestyle(car/desk job) around 25, I started getting bigger fairly quickly and had to cut back on my eating.
It's how I ate when I was young and thin.0 -
katherinevasseghi1 wrote: »This is 100% possible and honestly, how is 6000 calories a day even a lot to you guys? I am a 5ft tall woman who weights around 115-120. I eat around 5000-8000 calories everyday. I'm not that active, have an office job and only workout once a day. No cardio either. I'm confused on WHY 6000 would be considered a lot of calories??!!
Are you sure you aren't confusing kj and calories?
Edit: never mind. She actually means calories. No comment.2
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