A gastric band company to me put weight ON!
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GB or any other weight loss surgery doesn't stop binge eating. You need to solve that with the help of a counselor.0
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Wow, that really sucks. In the U.S. we have a lot of low cost therapy available to people who want/ need it. Surprised the UK does not have charitable groups that offer it, because we have them in every city here.
There is actually plenty of help in the UK, both the 'free' stuff via the NHS and via charities such as http://www.anorexiabulimiacare.org.uk/
I'd also add that a gastric band costs around £4-5,000 to have done in the UK - that amount would pay for one hell of a lot of counselling, even if the op did choose to go private.0 -
This is what you're saying:I phoned the company back today and complained that I was told to "eat more, stop dieting and push my BMI up". They could not have been less interested. Instead the woman said at my BMI I needed a gastric balloon and they help loads of people with binge eating disorder and have "never once had a patient who has not lost weight". I doubt that as they do 1000s of surgeries a year. Horrible and unethical and has really put me off surgery
This is what I'm hearing:I am unhappy, emotionally unstable and desperate. I am convinced the only thing that will help me is bariatric surgery, but even those doctors don't want to help me either. Sure, I was once a drug addict, and now I have a binge eating disorder. But I don't feel those things are relevant to MY case -- I just think all my problems will magically disappear if I get this weight off of me. And even though many people have suggested I get help for my emotional issues, I have no desire to listen to them, or seek therapy because that would mean I would have to address the issues that got me to my present path, and I don't want to face them. So, I'll stick with finding a bariatric surgeon, keep everything else in my life unbalanced, and hope that surgery works for me."
Is that about right? Because that's where this conversation is going.0 -
Ive never heard it called this before... but the description is spot on... Im the same with trifle (i cant even stock it in the house for a little treat)Alcoholic cake??
alcoholic foods are foods you cannot control. for example if I start an entire trifle or cake i end up eating the lot.0 -
No not right and you sound like an idiot.0
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It is really difficult for me because I have NEVER had a healthy relationship with food. From an early age my mum called me a fat cow leading me to be anorexic for years. Suddenly the anorexia stopped and the bingeing started. I really need psychological help. Am thinking of going to overeaters anonymous.
you need to seek counseling not a GB. if that is your child in your profile pic maybe you should consider getting yourself help for your child.0 -
No not right and you sound like an idiot.
I'm not the one with a past filled with dysfunction, addiction and emotional imbalance, thinking GBS will be the cure for ALL my ills.
You said those words, and that is what I heard. Resorting to calling someone an idiot for pointing out the truth is more proof that you need more than GBS to help you, but you won't listen.
Open your ears and your eyes.0 -
I am desperate to stop bingeing and lose weight. I am losing weight with MFP but very slowly. I lose for 2 or 3 days then go on 2 day long binges. It is really getting me down.
have you explored why you do this? Have you looked at how you are dieting?
I found that I binged when I eliminated the foods I enjoy (wings, pizza, carbs, etc) and felt deprived. Once I started looking at fullfiling the nutritional requirements for healthy eating and working the foods I love into my weight loss efforts I quit binging.
Granted some people have a deeper reason that they turn to food and binge and you may need to look at talking to someone if you can't figure it out on your own.0 -
I am desperate to stop bingeing and lose weight. I am losing weight with MFP but very slowly. I lose for 2 or 3 days then go on 2 day long binges. It is really getting me down.
people binge on the GB with severe consequences. maybe learn some will power and self control before taking overly drastic measures.
+1 on this ^
So far you've been anorexic, bipolar, a drug addict and a binge eater? And you have children?
Just trying to get it straight.....0 -
Make a list of your binge triggers. Don't eat them ever again. Not a sliver. Not a slice. Not if it's a special occasion. Never.
There will come a time where these foods don't hold power over you.
Wisdom.0 -
OK I reread the op and have something else:
WLS is NOT for people with binge eating disorders!!! You could burst your stomach open or make your GB move (one of the complications...).
I'm no doctor but I'd suggest a psychiatrist before WLS
Psychiatrist? They are the worst offenders. Please seek a therapist that is not too main-stream and will not recommend ridiculous medications and give you ridiculous diagnosis. You do not have a disease you just have an overeating issue and you need to recognize that it is your fault, you put food in your mouth nobody forced it down your throat. You have proven to yourself with your 16pounds weight loss that this is not a disease and it a matter or control. The sooner you stop blaming your eating habits on a "disease" the better.
With that said, I You do not need GP.
You don't have much experience with mental health issues, and that is okay, you're young. But the advice that you just gave the OP could kill her. Think before you type.0 -
OK I reread the op and have something else:
WLS is NOT for people with binge eating disorders!!! You could burst your stomach open or make your GB move (one of the complications...).
I'm no doctor but I'd suggest a psychiatrist before WLS
This exactly, the surgery is not going to make you stop binging0 -
Fix your mind and your heart... the rest will fall into place. most companies have employee programs that will allow you to see a councilor. I used to think that when i lost the weight all my emotional eating issues would go away, but they didn't and i gained all the weight back. now i'm fighting to lose it the right way. trust me, your mind and heart need fixing first.I am desperate to stop bingeing and lose weight. I am losing weight with MFP but very slowly. I lose for 2 or 3 days then go on 2 day long binges. It is really getting me down.0 -
OK I reread the op and have something else:
WLS is NOT for people with binge eating disorders!!! You could burst your stomach open or make your GB move (one of the complications...).
I'm no doctor but I'd suggest a psychiatrist before WLS
I was thinking the same thing, but she beat me to it. I know of at least 2 people who had the surgery, initially lost weight, but because they never addressed their initial relationship with food and the binges, a good bit of the weight came back over time. I know another woman who went from the 300's to about 105. She looks like a walking skeleton, older, age version of herself and I've only ever seen her eat garbage. Getting the surgery isn't going to magically want you to stop craving Doritos or chocolate.0 -
My sister is a binge eater (and drinker), and she had lap band surgery a few years ago. She initially lost 50 lbs, then regained most of it because she didn't address the issue of WHY she ate. She has finally been seeing a psychiatrist and is now losing again because she is developing a new relationship with food. It took nearly five years after the surgery, but she is now fixing her head. Our family wishes she had done this BEFORE she had the surgery. Please consider this.0
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Have you considered seeing someone who specializes in eating disorders? At BMI 29 you aren't dangerously overweight. But binge eating is a sign that there are other problems going on in your life.
Isn't it preferable to cure your problem without surgery? Try talking to someone about curing your eating disorder without all the pain and risk of surgery (and one that doesn't even work, at that).
I agree!! Your've already lost weight, so you CAN do it. Getting a band when you have a binge-eating disorder could be deadly!0 -
My sister is a binge eater (and drinker), and she had lap band surgery a few years ago. She initially lost 50 lbs, then regained most of it because she didn't address the issue of WHY she ate. She has finally been seeing a psychiatrist and is now losing again because she is developing a new relationship with food. It took nearly five years after the surgery, but she is now fixing her head. Our family wishes she had done this BEFORE she had the surgery. Please consider this.
Good for your sister!!! Tell her congrats!!0 -
Your problem is not eating , but your mental health.
Before it was drug and now is food , if you continue this way you will just transfer your addictive personality to something else.
You need to forget about the company and focus all the energy into finding some professional help in the mental health department.0 -
OK I reread the op and have something else:
WLS is NOT for people with binge eating disorders!!! You could burst your stomach open or make your GB move (one of the complications...).
I'm no doctor but I'd suggest a psychiatrist before WLS
Psychiatrist? They are the worst offenders. Please seek a therapist that is not too main-stream and will not recommend ridiculous medications and give you ridiculous diagnosis. You do not have a disease you just have an overeating issue and you need to recognize that it is your fault, you put food in your mouth nobody forced it down your throat. You have proven to yourself with your 16pounds weight loss that this is not a disease and it a matter or control. The sooner you stop blaming your eating habits on a "disease" the better.
With that said, I You do not need GP.
You don't have much experience with mental health issues, and that is okay, you're young. But the advice that you just gave the OP could kill her. Think before you type.
Father is a pharmacist, sister is in med school, mother is RN, cousins are medical doctors and pharmacists and I am in the medical field so yea I don't know what I am saying.
You saying that my advice could kill the OP is an ignorant, inflammatory and uncalled for tatement to make. Please educate yourself in this issue. If you don't know where to start you can start by reading a book called "Toxic Psychiatry" by Dr. Peter Breggin M.D. He is a Harvard educated Psychiatrist and have been in the field for 50 years.0 -
OK I reread the op and have something else:
WLS is NOT for people with binge eating disorders!!! You could burst your stomach open or make your GB move (one of the complications...).
I'm no doctor but I'd suggest a psychiatrist before WLS
Psychiatrist? They are the worst offenders. Please seek a therapist that is not too main-stream and will not recommend ridiculous medications and give you ridiculous diagnosis. You do not have a disease you just have an overeating issue and you need to recognize that it is your fault, you put food in your mouth nobody forced it down your throat. You have proven to yourself with your 16pounds weight loss that this is not a disease and it a matter or control. The sooner you stop blaming your eating habits on a "disease" the better.
With that said, I You do not need GP.
You don't have much experience with mental health issues, and that is okay, you're young. But the advice that you just gave the OP could kill her. Think before you type.
Father is a pharmacist, sister is in med school, mother is RN, cousins are medical doctors and pharmacists and I am in the medical field so yea I don't know what I am saying.
You saying that my advice could kill the OP is an ignorant, inflammatory and uncalled for tatement to make. Please educate yourself in this issue. If you don't know where to start you can start by reading a book called "Toxic Psychiatry" by Dr. Peter Breggin M.D. He is a Harvard educated Psychiatrist and have been in the field for 50 years.
I think the problem with your advice is that it completely ignores the OP's admittedly addictive personality and generally f-ed up relationship with food. She traded one addiction for another, and if you've dealt with eating disorders, mental health disorders, and/or addiction issues at all, then you'd know that it's not just about self-control, but that the underlying disorders need to be addressed. Her BED, BPD, and addictions aren't "ridiculous diagnoses." The issues are so blatant and obvious that even the laypeople here can see it.
Also, your very book recommendation proves that not every Psychiatrist is evil, considering you said yourself that it was written by a Psychiatrist.0 -
If you really want to stop binging, instead of getting bigger to have surgery, and all the new complications that come with it (I can say that because I have had it) why don't you start by seeing if this surgery center has a non-surgical weightloss plan as part of their program. Mine does and it helps alot of people who are desperate for weightloss but don't want surgery.0
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So they told you that you do not QUALIFY for this surgery. You are NOT obese enough. I think it's dumb to gain weight just so you can get a gastric band. Work harder to lose the weight.
I'm not against gastric bands, but if you're not obese enough to do it, then don't push it.0 -
If you've lost 16 pounds with MFP, it sounds like you're doing well on your own and don't need to be cut open and have a band put on your stomach. Figuring out your issues behind binge eating will help you stop. Slapping a band on won't. Talk to a specialist.0
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I am desperate to stop bingeing and lose weight. I am losing weight with MFP but very slowly. I lose for 2 or 3 days then go on 2 day long binges. It is really getting me down.
You don't need surgery you need counseling.....0 -
My sister is a binge eater (and drinker), and she had lap band surgery a few years ago. She initially lost 50 lbs, then regained most of it because she didn't address the issue of WHY she ate. She has finally been seeing a psychiatrist and is now losing again because she is developing a new relationship with food. It took nearly five years after the surgery, but she is now fixing her head. Our family wishes she had done this BEFORE she had the surgery. Please consider this.
Exactly! This happens a lot, actually. OP, def consider this!0 -
Unfortunately psychological help is almost impossible in the UK unless you pay private (which I am considering doing). I have gone through this with bipolar and had to be admitted into a psychiatric intensive care before I was deemed to be ill enough to access the therapy.
This is utter rubbish. We both live in Bolton and I happen to know that help is readily available. You need to visit your GP who will refer you to one of the many mental health/counselling services available in the Bolton area. There are at least 3 NHS services available in the town centre alone.0 -
There's a reason for your desire to be addicted to something and lose control. Likely this is something shaped by your past or specific experiences. It's fed by your surroundings that passively allow you to do what you do, even though you obviously hate it and want to change it.
It sounds like me that you need to talk to a therapist who will help you find the reason for your desire to be addicted to something, which is why it keeps transferring from one issue to the other. You DO NOT NEED MEDICATION. You DO NOT NEED SURGERY. Knowing why you do things is half the battle!
Because as soon as you know why, a therapist will give you the tools and support you to deal with the issue and get a grip on your life again. That's what they do.
NOBODY WILL FIX THIS FOR YOU. THERE IS NOTHING SOMEONE CAN DO FOR YOU TO TAKE AWAY THE ADDICTION.
They can only support you and guide you, but YOU are the one who has to take control and change your life. That's what therapy is about. That's what getting better is all about. If a doctor or therapist suggests you take medication, you're just running away from the problem. It will continue to exist and at some point even the GB, the medication or whatever else magical pill you get will not work any longer.
I know this because I've been in therapy, still am in therapy and it's super hard work, just like changing your diet and exercise routine to be healthier. But it's something you CAN DO. As long as you keep thinking there's an easy fix and avoid the real issue, you will never be happy and always looking for something new to latch onto. Don't do that. Please get some real help. A therapist is costly, but the price you pay for neglecting yourself any longer is much higher.0 -
OK I reread the op and have something else:
WLS is NOT for people with binge eating disorders!!! You could burst your stomach open or make your GB move (one of the complications...).
I'm no doctor but I'd suggest a psychiatrist before WLS
Psychiatrist? They are the worst offenders. Please seek a therapist that is not too main-stream and will not recommend ridiculous medications and give you ridiculous diagnosis. You do not have a disease you just have an overeating issue and you need to recognize that it is your fault, you put food in your mouth nobody forced it down your throat. You have proven to yourself with your 16pounds weight loss that this is not a disease and it a matter or control. The sooner you stop blaming your eating habits on a "disease" the better.
With that said, I You do not need GP.
You don't have much experience with mental health issues, and that is okay, you're young. But the advice that you just gave the OP could kill her. Think before you type.
Father is a pharmacist, sister is in med school, mother is RN, cousins are medical doctors and pharmacists and I am in the medical field so yea I don't know what I am saying.
You saying that my advice could kill the OP is an ignorant, inflammatory and uncalled for tatement to make. Please educate yourself in this issue. If you don't know where to start you can start by reading a book called "Toxic Psychiatry" by Dr. Peter Breggin M.D. He is a Harvard educated Psychiatrist and have been in the field for 50 years.
I think the problem with your advice is that it completely ignores the OP's admittedly addictive personality and generally f-ed up relationship with food. She traded one addiction for another, and if you've dealt with eating disorders, mental health disorders, and/or addiction issues at all, then you'd know that it's not just about self-control, but that the underlying disorders need to be addressed. Her BED, BPD, and addictions aren't "ridiculous diagnoses." The issues are so blatant and obvious that even the laypeople here can see it.
Also, your very book recommendation proves that not every Psychiatrist is evil, considering you said yourself that it was written by a Psychiatrist.
Nothing is absolute in this world and I understand that completely. I respect your opinion but do not agree.0 -
OK I reread the op and have something else:
WLS is NOT for people with binge eating disorders!!! You could burst your stomach open or make your GB move (one of the complications...).
I'm no doctor but I'd suggest a psychiatrist before WLS
Psychiatrist? They are the worst offenders. Please seek a therapist that is not too main-stream and will not recommend ridiculous medications and give you ridiculous diagnosis. You do not have a disease you just have an overeating issue and you need to recognize that it is your fault, you put food in your mouth nobody forced it down your throat. You have proven to yourself with your 16pounds weight loss that this is not a disease and it a matter or control. The sooner you stop blaming your eating habits on a "disease" the better.
With that said, I You do not need GP.
You don't have much experience with mental health issues, and that is okay, you're young. But the advice that you just gave the OP could kill her. Think before you type.
Father is a pharmacist, sister is in med school, mother is RN, cousins are medical doctors and pharmacists and I am in the medical field so yea I don't know what I am saying.
You saying that my advice could kill the OP is an ignorant, inflammatory and uncalled for tatement to make. Please educate yourself in this issue. If you don't know where to start you can start by reading a book called "Toxic Psychiatry" by Dr. Peter Breggin M.D. He is a Harvard educated Psychiatrist and have been in the field for 50 years.
Tell me about YOUR medical degree. I have enough doctors in my family to respect their expertise. Medical degrees are not hereditary. If you work in the medical field, you should know that you cannot make a diagnosis over the internet. Telling the OP that she doesn't have a disease based on your review is absurd. What is ignorant and uncalled for is telling the OP, who may very well have real mental health issues, that she doesn't have any real problems and she just needs to drop a few pounds.0 -
I have an eating disorder as well (EDNOS) and I think you need to focus on your BED and let weight loss come as it will. I'm currently in recovery for EDNOS (eating disorder not otherwise specified. AKA - I have traits of an anorexic, bulimic, and someone with a binge eating disorder). I struggle daily with wanting to not eat or wanting to binge and purge, or just wanted to say screw it and binge. If you start eating and you can't stop, that is called a binge eating disorder. You definitely need to focus on the mental part and the physical will come. I'm still learning myself how to find that happy medium.
This is just the point of view of someone with an ED. I really think you should seek help from a therapist who can help you view yourself and food differently and the weight loss will come.0
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