BCAAs?
sammiewammie444
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my sister has the powder and says it really helps with her muscle recovery. but then im being told by other people that i dont need to buy it.
thoughts??
i have started the gym and im trying to loose weight aswell as tone up
thoughts??
i have started the gym and im trying to loose weight aswell as tone up
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Unless you work out fasted there is very little benefit to them as long as you get adequate protein in your total diet.
Not something I'd spend my money on.
https://examine.com/supplements/branched-chain-amino-acids/
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I'd focus more on getting sufficient protein (0.8g per lb of body weight) from food - bcaas wouldn't be necessary if you achieve this.
Losing weight (and looking more toned as your muscles are revealed from losing fat) comes.from being in a calorie deficit consistently3 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Unless you work out fasted there is very little benefit to them as long as you get adequate protein in your total diet.
Not something I'd spend my money on.
https://examine.com/supplements/branched-chain-amino-acids/
This.
Since I stopped training first thing in the morning, I've stopped using them and not noticed any problems.
(I did find them helpful when I was doing bonkers amounts of HIIT and weights before breakfast, but I wouldn't really recommend that as an approach either!
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It would say depends on your training method I would say so volume and session intensity and rest of diet. Like posters above I would say make sure your getting enough protein first, money MAY be better spent on a protein powder to help with this.0
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If you eat enough protien from animal sources you will be fine.
Even some top protien shakes are missing or have low levels of leucine which is needed for muscle synthesis.
BCAA's are arguably unnecessary otherwise.1 -
I used to take them - they tasted nice in my drink but since reading some research I didn't bother ordering more and I haven't noticed a difference in my recovery or ability to train successfully fasted. To me: not needed0
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For the most part your run of the mill athlete won't need them
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/289827250 -
I train hard in the very early am fasted and I love them. Just thought I'd add a different opinion.6
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Adequate rest and building up your training sensibly are far more important for muscle recovery.
In most cases if you need to supplement at all then supplementing with whey protein (which contains BCAAs anyway) would be more beneficial than just BCAAs.
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I supplement with BCAA's and find them beneficial. Will they be beneficial for you, I can't answer that.2
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The research would not agree with you. In what way do you find them beneficial?I supplement with BCAA's and find them beneficial. Will they be beneficial for you, I can't answer that.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10594549/new-research-on-bcaas-dont-waste-your-money/p12 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Unless you work out fasted there is very little benefit to them as long as you get adequate protein in your total diet.
Not something I'd spend my money on.
https://examine.com/supplements/branched-chain-amino-acids/
Even if you work out fasted, there is very little benefit. See thread in above post.1 -
They effect everyone differently. A lot of it is the placebo affect. I freely admit that but I still use them because I feel that it helps me. If you really want to try it, try and get your hands on a weeks worth of sample sizes before buying a big tub to see if it even does anything for ya.1
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BCAAs are more nonsense from the supplement sellers to take your money.
Pure BS.
Never discount the power of a placebo.3 -
They effect everyone differently. A lot of it is the placebo affect. I freely admit that but I still use them because I feel that it helps me. If you really want to try it, try and get your hands on a weeks worth of sample sizes before buying a big tub to see if it even does anything for ya.
If you read the research, what do they do to help you? And what would it do for someone? Please back up your position with scientific data.2 -
sammiewammie444 wrote: »my sister has the powder and says it really helps with her muscle recovery. but then im being told by other people that i dont need to buy it.
thoughts??
i have started the gym and im trying to loose weight aswell as tone up
"Borrow" some from your sister and see if you notice any benefit.
If you do, buy some for youself and return what you "borrowed" to your sister.
If not, forget about it.1 -
The research would not agree with you. In what way do you find them beneficial?I supplement with BCAA's and find them beneficial. Will they be beneficial for you, I can't answer that.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10594549/new-research-on-bcaas-dont-waste-your-money/p1
One study means jack *kitten* to me. I can do a study, and the findings will be what I want them to be. How honest is the study, you have no idea. Amino's have aided my recovery.7 -
That my friend is called confirmation bias. If they feel like they work for you go ahead. Placebo effect or otherwise. They're also delicious.2
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Unless you work out fasted there is very little benefit to them as long as you get adequate protein in your total diet.
Not something I'd spend my money on.
https://examine.com/supplements/branched-chain-amino-acids/
Even if you work out fasted, there is very little benefit. See thread in above post.
Where does it say that they have no benefit fasted?
Genuine question as I know your advice is solid.
I only read that protein powder could be more beneficial than bcaa if protein in the diet is lacking.1 -
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Not sure why you posted that?
It's just about leucine an older men.1 -
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Again, I don't know what you are trying to say.
That is just about leucine in rats?
Can you actually say what you posting and why?2 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Unless you work out fasted there is very little benefit to them as long as you get adequate protein in your total diet.
Not something I'd spend my money on.
https://examine.com/supplements/branched-chain-amino-acids/
Even if you work out fasted, there is very little benefit. See thread in above post.
Where does it say that they have no benefit fasted?
Genuine question as I know your advice is solid.
I only read that protein powder could be more beneficial than bcaa if protein in the diet is lacking.
Read the links in the post I copied. They have no benefit period. They are an incomplete amino acid profile. Basically useless. It's all there.0 -
If you eat protein then you don't need BCAAs as you'll be getting enough from your food.
Just another fitness marketing hype product.1 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Unless you work out fasted there is very little benefit to them as long as you get adequate protein in your total diet.
Not something I'd spend my money on.
https://examine.com/supplements/branched-chain-amino-acids/
Even if you work out fasted, there is very little benefit. See thread in above post.
Where does it say that they have no benefit fasted?
Genuine question as I know your advice is solid.
I only read that protein powder could be more beneficial than bcaa if protein in the diet is lacking.
Read the links in the post I copied. They have no benefit period. They are an incomplete amino acid profile. Basically useless. It's all there.
I read the link but don't see any mention of training in a fasted state?
Of course they are incomplete, they are a branch of 3 out of 20.1 -
The research would not agree with you. In what way do you find them beneficial?I supplement with BCAA's and find them beneficial. Will they be beneficial for you, I can't answer that.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10594549/new-research-on-bcaas-dont-waste-your-money/p1
One study means jack *kitten* to me. I can do a study, and the findings will be what I want them to be. How honest is the study, you have no idea. Amino's have aided my recovery.
Well you couldn't have read it thoroughly or you would know there were 2 studies in my original post and an additional one by someone else. Additionally there was an article by Allan Aragon and a video analysis by Layne Norton.
But, hey, if you want to spend money on your confirmation bias, go right ahead. The whole supplements industry depends on people like you.
PS: And if you can do a study, as if it is that easy, go right ahead. We'll look forward to your published results.4 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Unless you work out fasted there is very little benefit to them as long as you get adequate protein in your total diet.
Not something I'd spend my money on.
https://examine.com/supplements/branched-chain-amino-acids/
Even if you work out fasted, there is very little benefit. See thread in above post.
Where does it say that they have no benefit fasted?
Genuine question as I know your advice is solid.
I only read that protein powder could be more beneficial than bcaa if protein in the diet is lacking.
Read the links in the post I copied. They have no benefit period. They are an incomplete amino acid profile. Basically useless. It's all there.
I read the link but don't see any mention of training in a fasted state?
Of course they are incomplete, they are a branch of 3 out of 20.
So, as an incomplete protein they do nothing. Fasted or otherwise. Useless. If your training fasted, have a complete source of protein soon after for max Muscle Protein Synthesis. Or better yet, a quick protein shake with a little carbs before training. There is no benefit to training fasted.0 -
TrishSeren wrote: »If you eat protein then you don't need BCAAs as you'll be getting enough from your food.
Just another fitness marketing hype product.
Bingo!!0
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