Just finished a detox and now meat makes me tired
DocJayDee
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So I am doing the fat smash diet which involves detoxing for 9 days (no bread meat or diary but all the veggies, fruits, beans, and tofu you want as well as brown rice, oatmeal, egg whites, and plain yogurt). So yesterday I started phase 2 which means i can start adding some meat to the menu which I did because I thought I was missing it so much. i ate 1 chicken breast throughout the day yesterday and I was more tired, sluggish and dragging. It was organic chicken breast from wegmans if anyone is questioning the quality. Idk now I'm thinking about keeping meat out of the equation now. Any former meat eaters or new vegetarians have any insight? I felt really great on the detox and my hair and nails started looking better too.
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Why are you detoxing? That's not really a thing....16
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Meat is certainly not required for healthy eating so if you want to leave it out that's fine. But it may just be the change in diet. If you want to eat meat I'd suggest adding it back by starting with smaller portions and up to where you'd like to be.
Was your protein intake the same when you weren't eating meat? I can only eat so much protein, and especially meat protein, at once without feeling sluggish. That's not true of everyone but it's always been true for me.5 -
htimpaired wrote: »Why are you detoxing? That's not really a thing....
We've already had that whole conversation with her...
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or perhaps "detoxing" made you tired because you weren't getting enough food and hardly any protein for over a week. Like was pointed out to you in your other thread... http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10627661/its-day-3-of-detox/p1
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I'm a vegetarian, so I'm not at all biased toward you eating meat. If you want to leave meat out of your diet for longer, that's fine. Make sure you're getting adequate protein, fat and vitamins from other sources, and you'll do wonderfully.
However, I'm not sure that there's anything in the meat you ate that accounts for your symptoms. How much protein were you getting on the diet? From what you described, I'm guessing that you weren't getting a lot. It's possible that you just gut-bombed yourself and that, if you'd eaten a smaller amount to start with, you wouldn't have had any negative reaction. It's also possible that your feeling tired was a psychosomatic reaction that is telling you that you don't really want to be eating meat, but that really has no physical cause. That's okay too; like I said before, as long as you're eating a balanced plant-based diet, there's no reason for you to feel like you have to eat meat.16 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »or perhaps "detoxing" made you tired because you weren't getting enough food and hardly any protein for over a week. Like was pointed out to you in your other thread... http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10627661/its-day-3-of-detox/p1
This would not be true if she was doing the Smash Diet correctly. Phase one is meat free but it is not starvation or VLCD.4 -
I would give it more than 1 day to determine if this is really an issue or not. You could be feeling tired or sluggish for a myriad of reasons, from not getting enough sleep, the beginnings of an illness, stress, hormonal changes in your cycle, etc.
Are you eating enough calories? If you have been undereating, it very well could be a low calorie intake that is the cause.5 -
9 days into a crash diet...probably not the chicken breast making you tired...22
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »or perhaps "detoxing" made you tired because you weren't getting enough food and hardly any protein for over a week. Like was pointed out to you in your other thread... http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10627661/its-day-3-of-detox/p1
This would not be true if she was doing the Smash Diet correctly. Phase one is meat free but it is not starvation or VLCD.
If she is doing it correctly maybe, but I don't see a lot of fat or protein in "Phase 1" and OP already made reference to waking up starving in the previous post.6 -
I'm not saying it is, but it can also be psychological. If you believe the detox did really wonderful things for you, you may be expecting changes once you start adding things. This does happen.6
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tinkerbellang83 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »or perhaps "detoxing" made you tired because you weren't getting enough food and hardly any protein for over a week. Like was pointed out to you in your other thread... http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10627661/its-day-3-of-detox/p1
This would not be true if she was doing the Smash Diet correctly. Phase one is meat free but it is not starvation or VLCD.
If she is doing it correctly maybe, but I don't see a lot of fat or protein in "Phase 1" and OP already made reference to waking up starving in the previous post.
It is low fat, but not protein.0 -
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Harvard University Study
The body's own detox system
We tend to forget that the body is equipped with a detoxification system of its own, which includes the following:
The skin. The main function of the body's largest organ is to provide a barrier against harmful substances, from bacteria and viruses to heavy metals and chemical toxins. The skin is a one-way defense system; toxins are not eliminated in perspiration.
The respiratory system. Fine hairs inside the nose trap dirt and other large particles that may be inhaled. Smaller particles that make it to the lungs are expelled from the airways in mucus.
The immune system. This exquisitely orchestrated network of cells and molecules is designed to recognize foreign substances and eliminate them from the body. Components of the immune system are at work in blood plasma, in lymph, and even in the small spaces between cells.
The intestines. Peyer's patches — lymph nodes in the small intestine — screen out parasites and other foreign substances before nutrients are absorbed into the blood from the colon.
The liver. Acting as the body's principal filter, the liver produces a family of proteins called metallothioneins, which are also found in the kidneys. Metallothioneins not only metabolize dietary nutrients like copper and zinc but also neutralize harmful metals like lead, cadmium, and mercury to prepare for their elimination from the body. Liver cells also produce groups of enzymes that regulate the metabolism of drugs and are an important part of the body's defense against harmful chemicals and other toxins.
The kidneys. The fact that urine tests are used to screen for drugs and toxins is a testament to the kidneys' remarkable efficiency in filtering out waste substances and moving them out of the body.
The bottom line
The human body can defend itself very well against most environmental insults and the effects of occasional indulgence (see "The body's own detox system"). If you're generally healthy, concentrate on giving your body what it needs to maintain its robust self-cleaning system — a healthful diet, adequate fluid intake, regular exercise, sufficient sleep, and all recommended medical check-ups. If you experience fatigue, pallor, unexplained weight gain or loss, changes in bowel function, or breathing difficulties that persist for days or weeks, visit your doctor instead of a detox spa.
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So I am doing the fat smash diet which involves detoxing for 9 days (no bread meat or diary but all the veggies, fruits, beans, and tofu you want as well as brown rice, oatmeal, egg whites, and plain yogurt).
I felt really great on the detox and my hair and nails started looking better too.
I'm sorry but there's no way ANY diet change would make a noticeable difference in your hair or nails in 9 days. Nails and hair grow very slowly, you'd have to wait at least a month or two to notice anything different about them. This is purely placebo effect.19 -
Bear with me:
There was an interesting, though small, crossover study done. A group of vegetarians agreed to start eating meat, and as group of meat eaters agreed to stop. Their gut microbiome changed much more rapidly than researchers had expected.
9 days would likely be long enough for significant adaptation.
As a long-term vegetarian, I've accidentally eaten a small amount of meat a few times (unsuspected in potluck casserole, for example). It tends to cause some digestive and other problems.
Speaking as someone who's been vegetarian for 43 years: Being vegetarian is manageable, but it's a little more inconvenient nutritionally and socially. People should, IMO, have a pretty good reason to undertake that major a decision.
One or two days' readaptation-related discomfort is not sufficient reason to become vegetarian. Give it a week, and increase meat/fish slowly. Don't get imaginative about meat being bad for you (humans have eaten it for centuries, for gosh sake). Instead, imagine it flowing out into your body to help build muscle and repair tissues, because it is doing that.
In a couple of weeks, when you're readapted, make a pros/cons list about becoming vegetarian, then make a decision rationally.
Just my opinion. Best wishes!
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When people make these types of drastic changes, they tend to read too much into some of the physical sensations that accompany the changes. Not questioning any of your choices, but I won’t not base any decisions on these transient feelings.6
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Meat has always made me feel sluggish. I usually replace it with other protein sources. I haven't had any problems reaching my macro requirements.1
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Meat takes longer to digest..thats why u feel tired. Its your choice to stop it or not. Follow ur heart and body.1
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Carlos_421 wrote: »9 days into a crash diet...probably not the chicken breast making you tired...
yeah...2
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