what you eat matters; for satiety

yirara
yirara Posts: 9,944 Member
edited November 24 in Health and Weight Loss
Lazy Sunday noon, I decided on a little experiment.

I usually eat about 55% carbs. Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta etc work best for me. So instead of having a lunch of two slices of wholegrain bread with ham for lunch a friend inspired me to eat something more colourful. I had a big bowl of skyr with lots of fresh fruits (banana, melons, grapes and kiwi) and a few nuts. I managed to get exactly the same macros as my bread lunch, that keeps me full until dinner time.

Right. 50 minutes after this very delicious lunch I'm hungry again. Back to bread then.

Note: this is for me. Everybody is different. Some people feel great eating green salads, others proteins or fats. So it's very individual. You have to find what works best for you.
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  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    its fat and carbs that keep me fuller, longer.

    though, it seems to be different for everyone.
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  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,944 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    Lazy Sunday noon, I decided on a little experiment.

    I usually eat about 55% carbs. Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta etc work best for me. So instead of having a lunch of two slices of wholegrain bread with ham for lunch a friend inspired me to eat something more colourful. I had a big bowl of skyr with lots of fresh fruits (banana, melons, grapes and kiwi) and a few nuts. I managed to get exactly the same macros as my bread lunch, that keeps me full until dinner time.

    Right. 50 minutes after this very delicious lunch I'm hungry again. Back to bread then.

    Fruit does absolutely nothing for me...

    For me neither. Though I was curious still. But like I said: everyone is different.
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  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,944 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    yirara wrote: »
    Lazy Sunday noon, I decided on a little experiment.

    I usually eat about 55% carbs. Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta etc work best for me. So instead of having a lunch of two slices of wholegrain bread with ham for lunch a friend inspired me to eat something more colourful. I had a big bowl of skyr with lots of fresh fruits (banana, melons, grapes and kiwi) and a few nuts. I managed to get exactly the same macros as my bread lunch, that keeps me full until dinner time.

    Right. 50 minutes after this very delicious lunch I'm hungry again. Back to bread then.

    Fruit does absolutely nothing for me...

    For me neither. Though I was curious still. But like I said: everyone is different.

    Same with low fat.....if I have low fat yogurt with my muesli I'm hungry within an hour...make it full fat and I'm good for a while

    Well.. I don't digest fats well, thus eating a diet high in fat doesn't do much for me anyway, other than more frequent visits to the loo.
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  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    And for me it's more fats and proteins that keep me Fuller longer. I tried to get at least 20 grams of protein a meal if not more.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    Lazy Sunday noon, I decided on a little experiment.

    I usually eat about 55% carbs. Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta etc work best for me. So instead of having a lunch of two slices of wholegrain bread with ham for lunch a friend inspired me to eat something more colourful. I had a big bowl of skyr with lots of fresh fruits (banana, melons, grapes and kiwi) and a few nuts. I managed to get exactly the same macros as my bread lunch, that keeps me full until dinner time.

    Right. 50 minutes after this very delicious lunch I'm hungry again. Back to bread then.

    Fruit does absolutely nothing for me...

    Me neither, I can't eat it as a snack.

    Protein and fat for me!
  • Wiseandcurious
    Wiseandcurious Posts: 730 Member
    For me it's protein and carbs/fiber, with the emphasis on protein. Volume eating (e.g. the way some people eat huge bowls of low calorie salad) does nothing for me except drive me nuts with frustration :)

    I agree that it matters for satiety, and clearly everyone is different but there seam to be a few patterns: either higher calory density foods (with perhaps an emphasis on specific macros) or high volume.

    Oh and fruit - I love the taste of it but it is absolutely useless to me for satiety (except if it is a banana or avocado...) I try to work in one serving of fruit most days but if I need to cut anything in order to work in a treat, fruit is the first to go.
  • CatL1911
    CatL1911 Posts: 50 Member
    I've found this to be true in the short term, but when I've done low carb diets in the past, after a couple initial (kind of miserable) weeks in the beginning, I then find myself staying full even on high protein and fat/low carb meals. Not that low carb is necessary for everyone, I just think your body can adjust if you need it to.
  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
    Fibre for me.
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    Protein is king for me. If I hit my protein goals I don't pay much attention to where I end up with respect to fat or carbs. I do have to watch my consumption of sugary or low fibre carbs (white rice, white bread etc) because I'm far more likely to overeat when I have them, but I think there's more going on than just satiety issues.

    After protein, consumption of fruits and veggies is my focus. It may be that I am just keeping my fibre levels high by doing so, or there may be something else involved. I'm not convinced that if I met the same fibre levels with bran for instance that I would feel satisfied/satiated to the same degree.
  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    For those of you satiated by protein, does this include when you have a shake? Or just protein from foods?

    Honestly curious.
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    For those of you satiated by protein, does this include when you have a shake? Or just protein from foods?

    Honestly curious.

    Shakes do absolutely nothing for me lol. Though i learned to "fool" my brain, I add alot of spinach and thn when i want mroe food i put it off as long as i can telling myself spinach digests badly with other foods(Even though i eat spinach with all my other foods fine lol) so i need to let it do its thing before eating again lol. So in that way atleast a shake holds me over for a few hours xD
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    edited January 2018
    For those of you satiated by protein, does this include when you have a shake? Or just protein from foods?

    Honestly curious.

    Protein from shakes and bars work for me.

    ETA Obviously I don't live on them, I try to eat food as much as possible for a variety of reasons, but when I'm pressed for time, they work for sure.

  • pinuplove
    pinuplove Posts: 12,871 Member
    For those of you satiated by protein, does this include when you have a shake? Or just protein from foods?

    Honestly curious.

    Works for me, although fat is my most satiating macro. A protein shake made with full fat milk will last me as long as a regular meal. But I'm not a volume eater. I doubt that would work for someone who is.
  • caiteh86
    caiteh86 Posts: 243 Member
    I have a protein shake with frozen banana and spinach right after the gym...keeps me full for about an hour and then I have a salad with chicken or scrambled eggs and toast. The one food that really fills me up is natural Peanut Butter mixed into steel cut oats...hits all the right spots!
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    pinuplove wrote: »
    For those of you satiated by protein, does this include when you have a shake? Or just protein from foods?

    Honestly curious.

    Works for me, although fat is my most satiating macro. A protein shake made with full fat milk will last me as long as a regular meal. But I'm not a volume eater. I doubt that would work for someone who is.

    Ya im a bulk eater who also has the socially embarassing need to eat with my hands. I love textures and need alot of texture in my food likely why it doesn't work for me lol. Little to no texture in a smoothie. Likely more a mental block in my case.
  • MikaMojito
    MikaMojito Posts: 680 Member
    This is really interesting because I'm trying to avoid bread because it just doesn't keep me full. Give me toast for breakfast (yes, wholemeal) and I'm starving 2h later. But I can eat a banana for breakfast and not need anything else for lunch.

    So on "good" days my meals are mostly centred around loads and loads of vegetables plus some protein. This time around I'm not cutting out all bread, pasta etc because that didn't work last time. I'm trying really hard to get my portion control in check. It works ok with pasta and potatoes but just doesn't work with bread *sigh*
  • Sojo15
    Sojo15 Posts: 87 Member
    Banana Shake with PB2 and banana and some raspberries fills me up. I managed to keep my diet much easier by eating at least 2 boiled eggs per day.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    For those of you satiated by protein, does this include when you have a shake? Or just protein from foods?

    Honestly curious.

    Protein shake to drink plus a spoonful of peanut butter to eat for fat would work. Protein on it's own, not really.
  • JaydedMiss
    JaydedMiss Posts: 4,286 Member
    For those of you satiated by protein, does this include when you have a shake? Or just protein from foods?

    Honestly curious.

    Protein shake to drink plus a spoonful of peanut butter to eat for fat would work. Protein on it's own, not really.

    very good point lol. All the people who find the protein shakes satisfying are all adding other things thn just powder, Minimalist "smoothies" with just water and powder i sense wouldnt have near as many satisfied people lol
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  • sosteach
    sosteach Posts: 260 Member
    Real food fills me up. Protein at every meal. I need fiber as well so I include beans or a multigrains.
  • crabbybrianna
    crabbybrianna Posts: 344 Member
    edited January 2018
    I need starchy carbs. Bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, anything like that. Beans and lentils as well. I did low carb for 2 years and I was always hungry. I can have 6 eggs cooked in fat and be hungry an hour later, but 1 egg on a piece of toast will last me all morning. Large amounts of vegetables don’t do it for me either. I’ve eaten huge salads with a ton of vegetables and protein in it and 45 minutes later I’d feel hungrier than before I ate it. Fruit is the same, an apple wouldn’t even take my hunger away for 5 minutes.
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  • whitpauly
    whitpauly Posts: 1,483 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    Lazy Sunday noon, I decided on a little experiment.

    I usually eat about 55% carbs. Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta etc work best for me. So instead of having a lunch of two slices of wholegrain bread with ham for lunch a friend inspired me to eat something more colourful. I had a big bowl of skyr with lots of fresh fruits (banana, melons, grapes and kiwi) and a few nuts. I managed to get exactly the same macros as my bread lunch, that keeps me full until dinner time.

    Right. 50 minutes after this very delicious lunch I'm hungry again. Back to bread then.

    Fruit does absolutely nothing for me...

    Me neither,,in fact I feel it makes me MORE hungry!
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited January 2018
    yirara wrote: »
    Lazy Sunday noon, I decided on a little experiment.

    I usually eat about 55% carbs. Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta etc work best for me. So instead of having a lunch of two slices of wholegrain bread with ham for lunch a friend inspired me to eat something more colourful. I had a big bowl of skyr with lots of fresh fruits (banana, melons, grapes and kiwi) and a few nuts. I managed to get exactly the same macros as my bread lunch, that keeps me full until dinner time.

    Right. 50 minutes after this very delicious lunch I'm hungry again. Back to bread then.

    Note: this is for me. Everybody is different. Some people feel great eating green salads, others proteins or fats. So it's very individual. You have to find what works best for you.

    Yes, that's my experience too -- what I eat matters for satiety, but it's not particularly about macros, or not macros alone.

    I find fruit filling (also veg, also potatoes, but not bread), and I've never found full fat yogurt or higher fat cuts of meat more filling than lower fat, but as others have said, these are how I experience them, others will be different.
  • crabbybrianna
    crabbybrianna Posts: 344 Member
    JerSchmare wrote: »
    I need starchy carbs. Bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, anything like that. Beans and lentils as well. I did low carb for 2 years and I was always hungry. I can have 6 eggs cooked in fat and be hungry an hour later, but 1 egg on a piece of toast will last me all morning. Large amounts of vegetables don’t do it for me either. I’ve eaten huge salads with a ton of vegetables and protein in it and 45 minutes later I’d feel hungrier than before I ate it. Fruit is the same, an apple wouldn’t even take my hunger away for 5 minutes.

    That’s interesting. I’m exactly the opposite. 6 eggs cooked in fat would fill me up from morning until dinner, almost. I need some fiber too. I believe you, but it’s just interesting how different we all are.

    Yes, that’s why low carb was so frustrating to me. Everyone always talked about how eating that way took their hunger away, and it didn’t matter how low I took my carbs and how much fat and vegetables I ate, I was always so hungry. By the end of the 2 years I had put on 40lbs from just eating enough to try to feel full.
    whitpauly wrote: »
    yirara wrote: »
    Lazy Sunday noon, I decided on a little experiment.

    I usually eat about 55% carbs. Bread, rice, potatoes, pasta etc work best for me. So instead of having a lunch of two slices of wholegrain bread with ham for lunch a friend inspired me to eat something more colourful. I had a big bowl of skyr with lots of fresh fruits (banana, melons, grapes and kiwi) and a few nuts. I managed to get exactly the same macros as my bread lunch, that keeps me full until dinner time.

    Right. 50 minutes after this very delicious lunch I'm hungry again. Back to bread then.

    Fruit does absolutely nothing for me...

    Me neither,,in fact I feel it makes me MORE hungry!

    Yep, a lot more hungry! Especially apples for some reason.
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