How to create your own Custom Diet Plan that suitable for your target

Alatariel75

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Let me guess. You're a newly minted fitness trainer?

Nope , Ignore this post if you don't like it

I don't necessarily disagree with anything but the tone. And the amount of protein. It's a bit high for the average joe.

I find many coaches recommend to multiply weight to 2 with low fats , i just recommend but if someone can't afford the cost so he can lower the proteins

Not sure what you are saying here?

The basic recommendation is 0.8 to 1 gram of protein per pound of LEAN BODY MASS, not overall body weight. So a 200 lb man with 10% body fat needs about 180 grams of protein. Any more than that, and your body won't process it anyway.

Many researches have different amounts of proteins per day , but lets talk irl how much proteins does coaches recommend to their clients? they mutiply theri weight(KG) x 2

That's a ludicrous amount of protein. I'd have to down a kilo of steak a day. I have never seen a coach recommend that.

Wouldn't 2 x weight in KG be approximately 0.9 x weight in pounds, so not crazy far from the .8-1g per pound LBM (roughly 0.6-0.8g per pound of healthy goal weight) we usually see suggested around here?

I'm not a fan of the plan - oh, man! But the badly-explained protein recc doesn't seem like its very worst feature.

But isn't the recommendation 1g per pound LBM and not total weight?

1g per lb lbm. Person has 15% to 35% fat and say 5% bone. So Lbm is 80% to 60% body weight. So 1g per lb Lbm becomes 0.6g to 0.8g per lb bodyweight.

And at above 35% body fat not real need to be too concerned that lean mass will get lost in spades... hence mine and Ann usual recommendation to calculate at goal weight within normal weight range...

Yeah, that's what I thought. OP is saying 2x bodyweight in grams of protein. For me, that's over 200g protein for a 5'4 woman who is probably 45% bodyfat (thats probably being generous, too)

Ahhh.... Well as I said nobody who has thought much about all this thinks that the OP makes much sense.

My most basic question would be how many calories to do what and for whom and with what activity level?

But I can see how you would key to the unbalanced protein in your case!

Oh, the Whole OP was just ridiculous. But the defence of the kgx2= protein grabs in a later post made me ??? even more.

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PAV8888 wrote: »

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AnnPT77 wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

Ebrahimelsayed98 wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Ebrahimelsayed98 wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Ebrahimelsayed98 wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Let me guess. You're a newly minted fitness trainer?

Nope , Ignore this post if you don't like it

I don't necessarily disagree with anything but the tone. And the amount of protein. It's a bit high for the average joe.

I find many coaches recommend to multiply weight to 2 with low fats , i just recommend but if someone can't afford the cost so he can lower the proteins

Not sure what you are saying here?

The basic recommendation is 0.8 to 1 gram of protein per pound of LEAN BODY MASS, not overall body weight. So a 200 lb man with 10% body fat needs about 180 grams of protein. Any more than that, and your body won't process it anyway.

Many researches have different amounts of proteins per day , but lets talk irl how much proteins does coaches recommend to their clients? they mutiply theri weight(KG) x 2

That's a ludicrous amount of protein. I'd have to down a kilo of steak a day. I have never seen a coach recommend that.

Wouldn't 2 x weight in KG be approximately 0.9 x weight in pounds, so not crazy far from the .8-1g per pound LBM (roughly 0.6-0.8g per pound of healthy goal weight) we usually see suggested around here?

I'm not a fan of the plan - oh, man! But the badly-explained protein recc doesn't seem like its very worst feature.

But isn't the recommendation 1g per pound LBM and not total weight?

1g per lb lbm. Person has 15% to 35% fat and say 5% bone. So Lbm is 80% to 60% body weight. So 1g per lb Lbm becomes 0.6g to 0.8g per lb bodyweight.

And at above 35% body fat not real need to be too concerned that lean mass will get lost in spades... hence mine and Ann usual recommendation to calculate at goal weight within normal weight range...

Yeah, that's what I thought. OP is saying 2x bodyweight in grams of protein. For me, that's over 200g protein for a 5'4 woman who is probably 45% bodyfat (thats probably being generous, too)

The problem is not using goal weight. The 1 g/lb LBM OR .8 g/lb total weight needs to clarify goal weight. OP's 2 x weight in kg is okay if it uses goal weight (still a bit higher than I think is needed, I use .65-.85 goal weight (in lb), but okay.

aniracace

But .... you could just ... use MFP ....

I'm so confused why would someone do this? And why not just use an IIFYM calculator or something? I mean this is great and all but I'm not sure what the point is.

quiksylver296

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But .... you could just ... use MFP ....

I'm so confused why would someone do this? And why not just use an IIFYM calculator or something? I mean this is great and all but I'm not sure what the point is.

Seems the OP has left the building. Profile no longer found.

I just checked, and it was still showing. ???

AnnPT77

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rhondaallisongray2609 wrote: »

5738_Cassiel wrote: »

But .... you could just ... use MFP ....

I'm so confused why would someone do this? And why not just use an IIFYM calculator or something? I mean this is great and all but I'm not sure what the point is.

Seems the OP has left the building. Profile no longer found.

I just checked, and it was still showing. ???

It says "Page Not Found" when I do it. It's on the 2nd page for me, not the pop-up box.

In at least some MFP versions, that link is programmatically broken - will produce "page not found" (or equivalent) for everyone. Not sure about this case.

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quiksylver296 wrote: »

rhondaallisongray2609 wrote: »

5738_Cassiel wrote: »

But .... you could just ... use MFP ....

I'm so confused why would someone do this? And why not just use an IIFYM calculator or something? I mean this is great and all but I'm not sure what the point is.

Seems the OP has left the building. Profile no longer found.

I just checked, and it was still showing. ???

It says "Page Not Found" when I do it. It's on the 2nd page for me, not the pop-up box.

Why did I get a woo for this? I was just stating what I saw.

FWIW, I got the same error when I viewed another profile and then subbed in his username for theirs.

AnnPT77

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PAV8888 wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

PAV8888 wrote: »

Alatariel75 wrote: »

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Alatariel75 wrote: »

Ebrahimelsayed98 wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Ebrahimelsayed98 wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Ebrahimelsayed98 wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Let me guess. You're a newly minted fitness trainer?

Nope , Ignore this post if you don't like it

I don't necessarily disagree with anything but the tone. And the amount of protein. It's a bit high for the average joe.

I find many coaches recommend to multiply weight to 2 with low fats , i just recommend but if someone can't afford the cost so he can lower the proteins

Not sure what you are saying here?

The basic recommendation is 0.8 to 1 gram of protein per pound of LEAN BODY MASS, not overall body weight. So a 200 lb man with 10% body fat needs about 180 grams of protein. Any more than that, and your body won't process it anyway.

Many researches have different amounts of proteins per day , but lets talk irl how much proteins does coaches recommend to their clients? they mutiply theri weight(KG) x 2

That's a ludicrous amount of protein. I'd have to down a kilo of steak a day. I have never seen a coach recommend that.

Wouldn't 2 x weight in KG be approximately 0.9 x weight in pounds, so not crazy far from the .8-1g per pound LBM (roughly 0.6-0.8g per pound of healthy goal weight) we usually see suggested around here?

I'm not a fan of the plan - oh, man! But the badly-explained protein recc doesn't seem like its very worst feature.

But isn't the recommendation 1g per pound LBM and not total weight?

1g per lb lbm. Person has 15% to 35% fat and say 5% bone. So Lbm is 80% to 60% body weight. So 1g per lb Lbm becomes 0.6g to 0.8g per lb bodyweight.

And at above 35% body fat not real need to be too concerned that lean mass will get lost in spades... hence mine and Ann usual recommendation to calculate at goal weight within normal weight range...

Yeah, that's what I thought. OP is saying 2x bodyweight in grams of protein. For me, that's over 200g protein for a 5'4 woman who is probably 45% bodyfat (thats probably being generous, too)

Ahhh.... Well as I said nobody who has thought much about all this thinks that the OP makes much sense.

My most basic question would be how many calories to do what and for whom and with what activity level?

But I can see how you would key to the unbalanced protein in your case!

Oh, the Whole OP was just ridiculous. But the defence of the kgx2= protein grabs in a later post made me ??? even more.

Not meant as a full defense, which I'd hoped would be obvious in context, but obviously wasn't.

The ratios are not crazy far off from what we see in other posts around here. I regularly see "1g per pound of bodyweight" (I think people pick it up from bodybuilding sites where writers assume of course everyone is lean ). Many times, I've replied to those to say "not just bodyweight, instead healthy goal weight, and a little on the high side IMO for most".

Here, I think OP meant to clarify that when he said "I find many coaches recommend to multiply weight to 2 with low fats" - I think he meant body fat.

The OP, IMO, is trying to recommend basically IIFYM with macro ratios that aren't unheard of (but that we usually see expressed per pound, not per kg). It's overkill for sure on a site that already has sensible, simple builtin macro and calorie calculations.

I feel like the OP has drawn extra lightning - not necessarily from you, @Alatariel75, but generally - because it's so unclearly expressed. I suspect English is not the OP's first language, which to me doesn't seem worth extra lightning, even on an English-language site. I'm probably oversensitive, after a long career at university with many international students, where it was sadly not uncommon to see native English speakers react suboptimally to non-native speakers who were struggling to communicate effectively.

Apologies for my unclarity or inappropriate tone. I've been speaking English daily for 60+ years, yet still regularly struggle womanfully to adequately get my point across.