God help me - Dr. Oz and the ACV “ detox overload” diet plan
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Well I didn't see the episode. But frankly I don't give a crap what other people do. If they feel better drinking it, let them. I highly doubt he was advocating not eating and just drink acv. So who cares? It's not like it's going to hurt them either.
My husband drinks it. He likes it. He doesn't need to lose weight and he's not on this site. He just thinks it's healthy. It's not hurting him. And it doesn't matter.
Honestly, people here get so worked up over things that really are unnecessary.
Wasting years believing in pseudoscience and falling for one gimmick after another to continually fail to achieve ones goals - you don’t think that it’s worth spending time trying to correct misinformation to help people avoid that experience?
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AllSpiceNice, AnvilHead, garber6th
People like the posters I've mentioned above helped me immensely when I started losing weight. I didn't know how entrenched I was in woo until I started prowling the forums for info.
I'm glad they dispel the *kitten* peddled by people like Dr. Oz, because believing in this garbage has hurt more people than you know. Diet woo kept me obese for years because I didn't know better.23 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Well I didn't see the episode. But frankly I don't give a crap what other people do. If they feel better drinking it, let them. I highly doubt he was advocating not eating and just drink acv. So who cares? It's not like it's going to hurt them either.
My husband drinks it. He likes it. He doesn't need to lose weight and he's not on this site. He just thinks it's healthy. It's not hurting him. And it doesn't matter.
Honestly, people here get so worked up over things that really are unnecessary.
Wasting years believing in pseudoscience and falling for one gimmick after another to continually fail to achieve ones goals - you don’t think that it’s worth spending time trying to correct misinformation to help people avoid that experience?
Indeed.
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WinoGelato wrote: »Well I didn't see the episode. But frankly I don't give a crap what other people do. If they feel better drinking it, let them. I highly doubt he was advocating not eating and just drink acv. So who cares? It's not like it's going to hurt them either.
My husband drinks it. He likes it. He doesn't need to lose weight and he's not on this site. He just thinks it's healthy. It's not hurting him. And it doesn't matter.
Honestly, people here get so worked up over things that really are unnecessary.
Wasting years believing in pseudoscience and falling for one gimmick after another to continually fail to achieve ones goals - you don’t think that it’s worth spending time trying to correct misinformation to help people avoid that experience?
Your post reminds me of all the time I felt guilty for eating butter because "Fat makes you fat."
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Can we add more rants? If yes...I was at my secondary gym last night. There was a female playing a VR video game in the side room. I asked the gym manager what was going on. He said she was getting her "heart rate in the fat-burning zone." Standing there. Playing a video game.
I. Couldn't. Even.
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dinadyna21 wrote: »AllSpiceNice, AnvilHead, garber6th
People like the posters I've mentioned above helped me immensely when I started losing weight. I didn't know how entrenched I was in woo until I started prowling the forums for info.
I'm glad they dispel the *kitten* peddled by people like Dr. Oz, because believing in this garbage has hurt more people than you know. Diet woo kept me obese for years because I didn't know better.
I want to "hug" this, and "insightful" this, and "like" this, and "awesome" this if we still had that button.4 -
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moosmum1972 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »dinadyna21 wrote: »AllSpiceNice, AnvilHead, garber6th
People like the posters I've mentioned above helped me immensely when I started losing weight. I didn't know how entrenched I was in woo until I started prowling the forums for info.
I'm glad they dispel the *kitten* peddled by people like Dr. Oz, because believing in this garbage has hurt more people than you know. Diet woo kept me obese for years because I didn't know better.
I want to "hug" this, and "insightful" this, and "like" this, and "awesome" this if we still had that button.
I miss the awesome button.
Agreed. I never use inspiring, and rarely use hug. I'd much rather have awesome.1 -
Dinadyna21 - thank you! This is what I hope for when posting on a topic like this. Because I too struggled for years believing all the crap out there that the diet industry promotes. I thought there was something inherently wrong with me and that “I must be meant to be fat”, after failing so many times.
Finding MFP and embracing the science of CICO was a life changer for me! It got me to goal weight, and in maintenance now for a couple of years. I wish only success and good health for all my MFP brethren.
And btw - I dearly love my science based MFP peeps out there. Thanks for adding your comments to my post!dinadyna21 wrote: »AllSpiceNice, AnvilHead, garber6th
People like the posters I've mentioned above helped me immensely when I started losing weight. I didn't know how entrenched I was in woo until I started prowling the forums for info.
I'm glad they dispel the *kitten* peddled by people like Dr. Oz, because believing in this garbage has hurt more people than you know. Diet woo kept me obese for years because I didn't know better.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »Can we add more rants? If yes...I was at my secondary gym last night. There was a female playing a VR video game in the side room. I asked the gym manager what was going on. He said she was getting her "heart rate in the fat-burning zone." Standing there. Playing a video game.
I. Couldn't. Even.
Well... at rest your substrate utilization is mostly fat, so technically...1 -
stevencloser wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Can we add more rants? If yes...I was at my secondary gym last night. There was a female playing a VR video game in the side room. I asked the gym manager what was going on. He said she was getting her "heart rate in the fat-burning zone." Standing there. Playing a video game.
I. Couldn't. Even.
Well... at rest your substrate utilization is mostly fat, so technically...
:grumble: Mr. Literal. :laugh:
She probably went and had a 500 calorie protein shake afterwards, to maximize TEH GAINZ.8 -
dinadyna21 wrote: »AllSpiceNice, AnvilHead, garber6th
People like the posters I've mentioned above helped me immensely when I started losing weight. I didn't know how entrenched I was in woo until I started prowling the forums for info.
I'm glad they dispel the *kitten* peddled by people like Dr. Oz, because believing in this garbage has hurt more people than you know. Diet woo kept me obese for years because I didn't know better.
Same! I'm FINALLY kicking obesity's *kitten* and it's all because of the people on MFP who take the time to say this is woo, here is why, and also here is what you really need to do.13 -
I don't know about weight loss, but ACV cured my husband's GERD. It was recommended to us by my daughter's nutritionist at St. Jude children's hospital, and it is the only "alternative" treatment we have really ever tried. It changed his life- almost overnight. Apparently, some people have too little stomach acid, not too much. For these people, the ACV actually works. I always tell people to at least give it a try because it is so cheap- truly amazing for us anyway!! I vaguely remember her talking about fermented foods helping GERD too?! I just know the ACV worked for him, and I 1000% trust every doctor and professional at St. Jude. I also happen to clean with it lol.5
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quiksylver296 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Can we add more rants? If yes...I was at my secondary gym last night. There was a female playing a VR video game in the side room. I asked the gym manager what was going on. He said she was getting her "heart rate in the fat-burning zone." Standing there. Playing a video game.
I. Couldn't. Even.
Well... at rest your substrate utilization is mostly fat, so technically...
:grumble: Mr. Literal. :laugh:
She probably went and had a 500 calorie protein shake afterwards, to maximize TEH GAINZ.
Well, I mean, gotta refuel after a workout like that, amirite?
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quiksylver296 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »Can we add more rants? If yes...I was at my secondary gym last night. There was a female playing a VR video game in the side room. I asked the gym manager what was going on. He said she was getting her "heart rate in the fat-burning zone." Standing there. Playing a video game.
I. Couldn't. Even.
Well... at rest your substrate utilization is mostly fat, so technically...
:grumble: Mr. Literal. :laugh:
She probably went and had a 500 calorie protein shake afterwards, to maximize TEH GAINZ.
Well, I mean, gotta refuel after a workout like that, amirite?
Not to split hairs but it was the 'trainer' who said she was burning fat, not her. Maybe she was just taking a break? Make fun of the trainer, all day.1 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »dinadyna21 wrote: »AllSpiceNice, AnvilHead, garber6th
People like the posters I've mentioned above helped me immensely when I started losing weight. I didn't know how entrenched I was in woo until I started prowling the forums for info.
I'm glad they dispel the *kitten* peddled by people like Dr. Oz, because believing in this garbage has hurt more people than you know. Diet woo kept me obese for years because I didn't know better.
I want to "hug" this, and "insightful" this, and "like" this, and "awesome" this if we still had that button.
Aw thanks, I would've added more names but the list wouldn't ever end. This forum is the best and I owe you guys so much for coming on here and knocking sense into me. Hopefully OP will take the insight offered.
I also miss the awesome button.
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I actually just had to google what the ACV diet is.....lol2
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Ooo...wine.
Wine detoxing me in the mornings.,Instant weightloss.lol
Seriously though, when i drink i binge in food so thats no good.:(1 -
This sort of stuff frustrates me so much. I really think pseudoscience and woo is one of the major pillars of the obesity crisis. It's a far bigger risk factor than sugar, in my opinion.3
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karintalley wrote: »Ooo...wine.
Wine detoxing me in the mornings.,Instant weightloss.lol
Seriously though, when i drink i binge in food so thats no good.:(
Same here, it's why I had to cut down on my drinking before I could successfully start my deficit. The food I can put away while drinking is just insane.1
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